Causes of High Electricity Bills in Thai Apartments

[paahlman]

Most aircons today are controlled by app on your phone. There there is often electricity usage stats. And if you really want to know. Install a 150 baht zigbee or WiFi electric plug that it connects to. Same for water heaters. They show live usage. Daily weekly or monthly or yearly. In the app. 

Edited October 18 by paahlman

[NoshowJones]

On 10/8/2024 at 2:17 PM, KannikaP said:

This certainly is NOT in Inverter unit.

See my conversation with GG regarding EER. 3.33 per watt is pretty dismal.

There are NEW TCL 12000 BTU inverters on Lazada tomorrow for less than Bht 8000. Get one.

A bit off topic but I bought a TCL TV a few years ago and it did not last for much more than a year. So I would be wary of buying any TCL product. 

I have always done well with electrical products ie still have the same fridge freezer in the kitchen that I bought when I bought my house about 19 years ago, second washing machine, second shower unit.

[KannikaP]

47 minutes ago, NoshowJones said:

A bit off topic but I bought a TCL TV a few years ago and it did not last for much more than a year. So I would be wary of buying any TCL product. 

I have always done well with electrical products ie still have the same fridge freezer in the kitchen that I bought when I bought my house about 19 years ago, second washing machine, second shower unit.

Edited October 18 by KannikaP

[KannikaP]

Just now, KannikaP said:

Fingers crossed, just bought a TCL 32 as my PC monitor. Brilliant picture. Let's see if it lasts. 

[KannikaP]

5 hours ago, paahlman said:

Install a 150 baht zigbee or WiFi electric plug that it connects to. Same for water heaters.

Aren't air cons and showers supposed to be connected directly to fuse box, via a double pole switch? Not plugged into a Bht 150 socket.

I have a unit fitted into my fuse box which indicates overall consumption via Tuya App.

Edited October 18 by KannikaP

[node]

Unless you get this guy stuff, living here or anywhere else that's carries 220v, one would be guessing what really is pulling the energy.

I bought David stuff back on 2018 from Korea, and it will tell you what applicants are pulling the energy. Be it a Dryer, AC, a Fan, Iron, Electric stove, Oven, or someone stealing energy from you, etc, thereby, limiting there use to keep your energy bill down.

Also, I have found out from the Electric Company, how they calculate their monthly bill here, this too is very helpful. 

 

He has a YouTube video, and is a very very honest person.

 

htt**://mywatt.biz/

[NoshowJones]

1 hour ago, KannikaP said:

Fingers crossed, just bought a TCL 32 as my PC monitor. Brilliant picture. Let's see if it lasts. 

Only a one year warranty from BigC. Let me know if it lasts.

[paahlman]

21 hours ago, KannikaP said:

Aren't air cons and showers supposed to be connected directly to fuse box, via a double pole switch? Not plugged into a Bht 150 socket.

I have a unit fitted into my fuse box which indicates overall consumption via Tuya App.

Aircons are correctly like you say installed directly to the main breaker. One for each. The eletricity calculation is from the app that belongs to the Airconditioner brand. most do this now. When it comes to other stuff you want to control Fridges.. hot water heaters.. Know the spec and install for example a 150 baht like you say zigbee or wifi outlet of 16 amps. That will cover up to 3680 watt or around that range. That give you hot water metering. There are other ways to do it also of course.

 

You can do that with an old airconditioner too. If it has alot of BTU and requires alot of amps. Go for maybe a 20 amp wifi or zigbee or even passive outlet without any app control. Its worth mentioning not all people like to check any app so these meters comes with screen directly on them also. 

Worth adding that this gives you no more cheaper bills, but it makes you maybe understand what the culprits are.

Edited October 19 by paahlman
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[LALes]

On 10/8/2024 at 2:03 PM, black tabby12345 said:

Specifications of  the A/C in my room.

Has been used since Nov.2005.

It was already here when I checked in.

 

Thai texts into English with google translate.

 

Any comments from the electrical experts Welcome.

 

 

 

 

 

Both AC units in my condo are from 2004, too!  Both still crank out the cool pretty good.  I am in no hurry to 

buy "new" units.  These old soldiers will have to be dead and buried before I do that.  I only spent 2,500 baht apiece in repairs over 17 years!  New ones can't touch that.

[Nemises]

On 10/4/2024 at 3:18 PM, black tabby12345 said:

My energy saving tip:

1-Always use A/C it at 28 degrees Celsius 

 

28??!!  No thanks. Most doctors recommend keeping the thermostat set to around 20 degrees Celsius for the most comfortable sleep. 

[pattayasan]

4 minutes ago, Nemises said:

28??!!  No thanks. Most doctors recommend keeping the thermostat set to around 20 degrees Celsius for the most comfortable sleep. 

 

That's freezing. I set mine at 29. AI estimates between 6 and 10% increase in power consumption per degree decrease in temperature on the thermostat. For a 10,000 btu inverter aircon.

Edited 5 hours ago by pattayasan

[Nemises]

39 minutes ago, pattayasan said:

I set mine at 29.

Livin’ the dream 😭

[quake]

56 minutes ago, pattayasan said:

 

That's freezing. I set mine at 29. AI estimates between 6 and 10% increase in power consumption per degree decrease in temperature on the thermostat. For a 10,000 btu inverter aircon.

 Yes same me at our house.

28 in the front room , 27 in the bed room, i do still use a fan in both rooms.

 

One thing to note.

Last year I had two LG duel inverters fitted to my condo.

bedroom set at 27 fine. But front room set at 28, i was standing on the balcony 

and realized the unit was cycling ( that will gobble up the electric )

I  found I had to have it set at 27 max, to get it to run correctly.

 

 

 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by quake

[scubascuba3]

22 hours ago, LALes said:

Both AC units in my condo are from 2004, too!  Both still crank out the cool pretty good.  I am in no hurry to 

buy "new" units.  These old soldiers will have to be dead and buried before I do that.  I only spent 2,500 baht apiece in repairs over 17 years!  New ones can't touch that.

Usually noisy especially outside compressor, new ones are whisper quiet 

[scubascuba3]

1 hour ago, Nemises said:

 

28??!!  No thanks. Most doctors recommend keeping the thermostat set to around 20 degrees Celsius for the most comfortable sleep. 

At 20⁰ you'd need a duvet to keep warm, seems a bit silly, mine is set at 27⁰ but moves between 25 and 26.5

[Nemises]

14 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

At 20⁰ you'd need a duvet to keep warm, seems a bit silly,

So most doctors are “a bit silly”.
Go it 👍 

 

 

The best room temperature for sleep is approximately 65 degrees Fahrenheit (18.3 degrees Celsius). This may vary by a few degrees from person to person, but most doctors recommend keeping the thermostat set between 65 to 68 degrees Fahrenheit (15.6 to 20 degrees Celsius)for the most comfortable sleep.

 

www.sleepfoundation.org

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by Nemises

[Ralf001]

12 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

At 20⁰ you'd need a duvet to keep warm, seems a bit silly, mine is set at 27⁰ but moves between 25 and 26.5

 

I roll at 26 and use a duvet !

[scubascuba3]

2 hours ago, Nemises said:

So most doctors are “a bit silly”.
Go it 👍 

 

 

The best room temperature for sleep is approximately 65 degrees Fahrenheit (18.3 degrees Celsius). This may vary by a few degrees from person to person, but most doctors recommend keeping the thermostat set between 65 to 68 degrees Fahrenheit (15.6 to 20 degrees Celsius)for the most comfortable sleep.

 

www.sleepfoundation.org

 

 

 

 

 

How thick is your duvet? i sleep fine at 25-26.5.

 

When i lived in Scotland i slept with two 13 tog duvets it was so cold, i slept well though