Thailand’s Bold Move: Decriminalising Sex Work Sparks National Debate

[snoop1130]

 

Thailand's Prime Minister, Paetongtarn Shinawatra, is causing a stir with a proposal to develop an entertainment complex that would bring underground businesses, including sex work, into the formal economy. This initiative aims to boost government revenue through taxation, funding crucial welfare programmes in education, public health, and infrastructure.

 

Surang Janyam, director of SWING, an organisation advocating for sex workers' rights, underscores the importance of decriminalising sex work. "During Covid, many sex workers were left without compensation or welfare. Over 50% of the 500 sex workers we spoke to expressed a desire to be part of the labour system and pay taxes."

 

Brothel owners also support the plan, citing protection from extortion and illicit payments as key benefits. In Pattaya, focus groups revealed unanimous backing for the proposal, with local businesses ready to comply with taxation for legal protections.

However, Surang clarifies that the goal is decriminalisation, not legalisation, aiming to abolish laws criminalising the profession. Critics fear potential increases in child exploitation and trafficking. Surang counters that existing laws can address these issues and stresses that participation should be voluntary, allowing freelance workers to operate as small business owners.

 

Public perception remains a major obstacle, with moralistic debates often overshadowing economic arguments. Surang argues that economic realities should take precedence over subjective morality. "People need jobs and income. Morality is just an excuse to avoid tackling the real problem," she concludes.

 

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-- 2024-10-02

 

[MalcolmB]

Unfortunately even if it is decriminalized it will be a job probably reserved for Thais.

 

So sadly none of us on this forum will be able to get a job making love to sex tourists.

[Watawattana]

42 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

So sadly none of us on this forum will be able to get a job making love to sex tourists.

Dang, and I was going to apply.

 

Not sure I could live on a weekly income of 101 Baht though.  Who would give me that odd 1 Baht?  All of them!

[Watawattana]

No matter what happens, the sex industry will continue.  Legal, decriminalised or illegal.  For me, I'd have thought the Government might like the extra tax revenue.

[Gobbler]

1 hour ago, snoop1130 said:

a proposal to develop an entertainment complex that would bring underground businesses, including sex work, into the formal economy.

Where are these "underground" businesses?

[Gottfrid]

2 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Unfortunately even if it is decriminalized it will be a job probably reserved for Thais.

 

So sadly none of us on this forum will be able to get a job making love to sex tourists.

Yeah, I really feel for you, as I understand how disappointed you are to not be able to do your dream work.

 

This comment was approximately what was expected from you. Totally weird and full of delusional fantasies.

[Gottfrid]

1 hour ago, Gobbler said:

Where are these "underground" businesses?

Let´s explain it for you. With underground, they mean not registered or legal. Not that everyone work at cellar level. So, is it better now?

[Gottfrid]

Yes, that is the right way to go. They need to protect them, or enforce the existing laws. There are no middle ways here. They have been neglected for far too long.

[gk10012001]

3 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Critics fear potential increases in child exploitation and trafficking.

I don't see how decriminalizing adult behavior would contribute to child exploitation.  Laws about that exploitation should still be enforced .  Same for trafficking.  If things were monitored or licensed wouldn't that make it harder to exploit?

[hellohello123]

Why legalise something that doesnt exist......

Edited October 2 by hellohello123

[Kiwiken]

9 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Unfortunately even if it is decriminalized it will be a job probably reserved for Thais.

 

So sadly none of us on this forum will be able to get a job making love to sex tourists.

In New Zealand it is only legal for New Zealand Citizens to work in the profession. Foreigners entering the Trade do so illegally. I would hope Thailand would enact similar laws and make the age of 18 as minimum

[cnx101]

10 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Unfortunately even if it is decriminalized it will be a job probably reserved for Thais.

 

So sadly none of us on this forum will be able to get a job making love to sex tourists.

Yes it’s so sad

[cnx101]

7 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Yeah, I really feel for you, as I understand how disappointed you are to not be able to do your dream work.

 

This comment was approximately what was expected from you. Totally weird and full of delusional fantasies.

I think he is making a joke don’t be so serious 

Edited October 2 by cnx101

[Antioch]

Regardless of what some people think of sex workers most of them have no skills and have family and children that need their income.  Why not give them some dignity? Why not define them as legitimate workers?

I was in the SIB (US CID) during the Vietnam War period and we had a special Unit that looked after soldiers who had been with infected SWs. We promptly out them out of circulation until they were treated.  It kept the girls relatively healthy and our chaps a little better off.  You can't cure poverty and need but you can make life easier for those who are forced to work in the most unenviable occupations.

[fondue zoo]

10 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

a proposal to develop an entertainment complex that would bring underground businesses, including sex work

 

Some sort of 'Pleasure Dome' to regulate unlawful carnal knowledge.

[hotchilli]

10 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Over 50% of the 500 sex workers we spoke to expressed a desire to be part of the labour system and pay taxes."

I find that hard to believe, most sex workers can easily find customers, even during the Covid shut down period.

They just joined dating sites or walked the streets, they will always find work.

As for declaring their full income in return for small benefits is something they would rather keep as it is now.

Put some savings away for a rainy day is the best way to go.

[fondue zoo]

2 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

I find that hard to believe, most sex workers can easily find customers, even during the Covid shut down period.

They just joined dating sites or walked the streets, they will always find work.

As for declaring their full income in return for small benefits is something they would rather keep as it is now.

Put some savings away for a rainy day is the best way to go.

 

yeah, you can find horny here 24/7

 

 

[Artisi]

8 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Let´s explain it for you. With underground, they mean not registered or legal. Not that everyone work at cellar level. So, is it better now?

What prostitution? 

According to the authorities there is none whenever they look. 

[fondue zoo]

 casinos and bordellos for the PT win.

 

 

Edited October 2 by fondue zoo

[hotchilli]

11 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Surang counters that existing laws can address these issues and stresses that participation should be voluntary, allowing freelance workers to operate as small business owners.

Even if someone opens a small brothel do they really think they will declare every baht earned?

Like the bar girls now, they declare their bar salary as their earnings but every trick they turn is a bonus.

[Paul Henry]

Doubt if there will be any changes to the law, too  many HI-SO making money off the working girls and illegal business.How are they going to buy expensive watches and fancy cars on their salaries?. Especially the ones wearing brown uniforms.

[chang1]

22 minutes ago, Antioch said:

You can't cure poverty and need but you can make life easier for those who are forced to work in the most unenviable occupations.

Is it really that bad a choice given the alternatives? Sure at first it can be horrendous but many see it as the better option. Being a farm girl working in rice fields is not exactly a pleasant job either.

[Kerryd]

On one hand, assorted gov'ts in recent years have "vowed" to "get rid of the sex trade" (mainly in Pattaya for some reason).

And now on the other hand, they want to decriminalize it (I'm sure it's mainly so they can tax it).

So they don't "want their cake" - but they do want to tax it.

Just another day in "The Hub of Hubs".

[Andrew65]

A little personal insight from my years of indulging in such delights is that it's too 'easy'. there's no 'value' to it. (IMHO).

[fondue zoo]

 

 

This bunch seem quite eager to broaden their tax revenue streams. 

 

 

 

[SportRider]

Government taxes would replace brown envelopes. 

Unlikely to get support from those affected. 

[thailand49]

Just another idea to bring in revenue for themselves!

Money will never help the Thais that need it.

[Luuk Chaai]

ublic perception remains a major obstacle, with moralistic debates often overshadowing economic arguments. Surang argues that economic realities should take precedence over subjective morality. "People need jobs and income. Morality is just an excuse to avoid tackling the real problem,"

 

or is it lack of something to the BIB

[MalcolmB]

10 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Yeah, I really feel for you, as I understand how disappointed you are to not be able to do your dream work.

 

This comment was approximately what was expected from you. Totally weird and full of delusional fantasies.

It wasn’t for myself I was referring to. 
I am comfortably retired.

 

It was more for the guys who are struggling and still need to work here for Thai rates and need their wives to work in corner stores selling alcohol to the poor and disabled to make ends meet.

[Emdog]

"However, Surang clarifies that the goal is decriminalisation, not legalisation, aiming to abolish laws criminalising the profession."

Could someone explain the "reasoning" here? Seems if laws criminalizing some behavior are removed, then that behavior is legal in some de facto manner.....