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Transport Department Clarifies Fatal Bus Fire Incident to Committee: CNG Leak Confirmed


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2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

The reasonable response is no LNG in ANY form of public transport....

 

 

When I have e-mailed our schools before (two of them) regarding their transport policy for field trips, part of their policy is 'Diesel vehicles' i.e. no LPG / LNG vehicles because of the known safety risks compared to something as 'less volatile' as diesel.

 

 

 

I was kind of hoping that they wouldn't pass the checks. I agree that your response is more reasonable than mine !

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1 hour ago, Crossy said:

Does Thai NGV/CNG really have no (added) smell??

 

https://www.pttplc.com/en/Products/Ourbusinessbypttplc/Gasunit/Pttngv/Pttngv.aspx

 

I'm not sure I agree with point about "remarkable safety"!!

 

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Yes natural gas has no smell they add the smell so you know if it leaks, you can not be gassed buy natural gas you still die of course but you die from lack of oxygen it is nontoxic it is hard to ignite than coal gas 

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10 minutes ago, matchar said:

The CNG tanks are supposed to have a safety shut-off valve in case of a leak and CNG is very safe when installed correctly... unfortunately nobody follows the rules in Thailand.

Yeah, but it might have even here. It depends where the leak was.

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2 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

1. Inspect all 13,426 public and private buses using CNG within 60 days.

 

2. Raise the standards for non-scheduled public buses, which currently lack stringent regulations

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3. Collaborate with the Ministry of Education and schools nationwide to ensure that all vehicles used for student and elderly transport are thoroughly inspected before each trip.

 

4. Introduce laws mandating that staff on buses are trained in emergency response and passenger assistance.

 

5. Implement regulations requiring operators to inform passengers of emergency procedures, similar to those on airlines.

1: How? Who with? That's 223 buses per day.

2: Raise the standards? You can wrap a turd in a rose but it's still going to be a turd.

3: 500 trips happening next Tuesday (just an example) each starting at 5:00 am. All buses will need to be thoroughly inspected before the journey. How? Who's going to do it?

4: How? Who will conduct the training and who will pay for it? What defines emergency response?

5: This is a seatbelt.

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Who installed and did the conversion? 

 

No smell. I am not being Krass, but I'm angry about this. 

 

How about the smell of 20+ children and teachers burning to death? 

 

No one cares about child safety. 

 

It's disgusting. 

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1 hour ago, Artisi said:

Does that mean some of the charges levelled at the driver will be dropped, or is he still the fall guy? 

Wait and see. It won't be pretty.

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3 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

The reasonable response is no LNG in ANY form of public transport....

 

 

When I have e-mailed our schools before (two of them) regarding their transport policy for field trips, part of their policy is 'Diesel vehicles' i.e. no LNG / CNG vehicles because of the known safety risks compared to something as 'less volatile' as diesel.

 

I can't believe they use this stuff at all.  It seems to have a reputation for causing the death of everyone inside the vehicle whenever a crash happens.

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2 hours ago, MarkBR said:

All these wonderful new laws regulations & inspections - why did it take the death of all these children for it to happen?  Will it be adequately & diligently monitored?  Very unlikely.

Sorry but your comment has a fatal flaw and here it is...."why did it take the death of all these children for it to happen?" I understand you're sentiment but do you think anything significant will happen to change the situation? IMHO this is just more knee jerk hot air reactionary BS to fool people into thinking they're doing something.

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4 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Sorry but your comment has a fatal flaw and here it is...."why did it take the death of all these children for it to happen?" I understand you're sentiment but do you think anything significant will happen to change the situation? IMHO this is just more knee jerk hot air reactionary BS to fool people into thinking they're doing something.

I  agree, hence the last 2 words.

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3 hours ago, matchar said:

The CNG tanks are supposed to have a safety shut-off valve in case of a leak and CNG is very safe when installed correctly... unfortunately nobody follows the rules in Thailand.

"a" safety shut-off?

THey have multiple safety sytems all over the vehicle - cut-offs, detection warnigs lights and alarms - so are we to believe that NONE of these worked.

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21 minutes ago, MarkBR said:

I  agree, hence the last 2 words.

 

2 hours ago, MarkBR said:

Will it be adequately & diligently monitored?  Very unlikely.

Your last two words assumes it's going to happen. As I said it's just knee jerk reaction and the 5 points of action are just ridiculous (see above post).  Sounds good but that's what sound bites and knee jerk reactions are all about. I initially stated that fk all will change and I stand by that but I hope I'm wrong.

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7 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

According to Cheep Nomsean, Director of the Automotive Engineering Office, the inspection revealed that the right rear door mechanism of the bus was functional, and the bus was a single-decker with a lower compartment for luggage. No tyre explosion was found; instead, it was discovered that one of the 11 gas tanks had come loose, causing a gas leak from a connecting pipe. Furthermore, the front axle had broken, dragging against the road and sparking the fire.

So, shouldn't you now be dragging the owners of the bus into court to show why the bus wasn't adequately maintained and inspected.  Nah - throw the bus driver under the bus.  He's a nobody.  Sh*t does roll downhill. 

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7 hours ago, Crossy said:

Yeah, it wasn't going to take a rocket scientist to work out there was a CNG leak, buses, even ancient Thai ones, don't go whoosh like this one did with no leak 😞

 

The unauthorised modifications (which failed causing the leak) and the failure of the axle is more than somewhat worrying 😞 

 

Let's see how many brown envelops it takes to sweep this under the bus rug.

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