19 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Nothing speaks against sex on a first date if both parties are attracted to one another.

 

What's wrong with it?

 

How is that working out for you, in the loyalty stakes?

Just now, NowNow said:

 

How is that working out for you, in the loyalty stakes?

 

You would have to establish causation from one to the other for your argument to make any sense.

 

how loyal, trustworthy and attractive are western foreigners aged 60 - 80 in thailand?

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

You would have to establish causation from one to the other for your argument to make any sense.

 

I don't have to do anything. I have loyalty where you don't. You can do it your way.

Where is your former girlfriend who you told us that really liked you?

Your obvious problem is that your little brain is the one that you are using predominantly.

1 minute ago, it is what it is said:

 

how loyal, trustworthy and attractive are western foreigners aged 60 - 80 in thailand?

 

A fair point. I've just misled a girl in Bangkok about loyalty and she found out. She's had 7 boyfriends previously according to her. This further disappointment of yet another Farang who lied to her is no doubt going to affect her behaviour with other guys.

 

Cause and effect.

2 minutes ago, NowNow said:

 

I don't have to do anything. I have loyalty where you don't. You can do it your way.

Where is your former girlfriend who you told us that really liked you?

Your obvious problem is that your little brain is the one that you are using predominantly.

 

No, you are misrepresenting the facts, I first posted about her here precisely because I had DOUBTS about how much she liked me. Turns out my concerns were well founded.

 

This is a reflection on HER alone, and does not have any bearing on first date sex causing a lack of trustworthiness. If you think that is the case, then you do have to establish causation in a credible way. Otherwise your argument is just not credible.

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

A fair point. I've just misled a girl in Bangkok about loyalty and she found out. She's had 7 boyfriends previously according to her. This further disappointment of yet another Farang who lied to her is no doubt going to affect her behaviour with other guys.

 

Cause and effect.

 

I repeat....low standards and somehow proud of it.

Just now, NowNow said:

 

I repeat....low standards and somehow proud of it.

 

I'm not proud of it at all. I deeply regret it. However, I'm just being honest.

 

It's not "low" standards, this was a good quality girl.

 

She had her own job, took care of herself. She had bought her own condo. She had her life together.

 

She knew exactly what she wanted. I had deceived her.

 

What happened was solely on me.

Just now, Cameroni said:

 

No, you are misrepresenting the facts, I first posted about her here precisely because I had DOUBTS about how much she liked me. Turns out my concerns were well founded.

 

This is a reflection on HER alone, and does not have any bearing on first date sex causing a lack of trustworthiness. If you think that is the case, then you do have establish causation in a credible way. Otherwise your argument is just not credible.

 

Again, I don't have to do anything to convince you. You do you. I swim in a different pool. 

Just now, Cameroni said:

 

I'm not proud of it at all. I deeply regret it. However, I'm just being honest.

 

It's not "low" standards, this was a good quality girl.

 

She had her own job, took care of herself. She had bought her own condo. She had her life together.

 

She knew exactly what she wanted. I had deceived her.

 

What happened was solely on me.

 

I'm referring to you, not her.

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

I'm not proud of it at all. I deeply regret it. However, I'm just being honest.

 

It's not "low" standards, this was a good quality girl.

 

She had her own job, took care of herself. She had bought her own condo. She had her life together.

 

She knew exactly what she wanted. I had deceived her.

 

What happened was solely on me.

 

It's what I just told you. Low standards. Your own. But yet you want loyalty. You aren't worthy.

3 minutes ago, NowNow said:

 

I'm referring to you, not her.

 

You said "low standards". So either I have low standards, so the girl is low quality. Or the girl has, and I am. You are wrong on both counts.

2 minutes ago, NowNow said:

 

It's what I just told you. Low standards. Your own. But yet you want loyalty. You aren't worthy.

 

How do I have low standards? I carefully vetted these girls. They were high quality girls by Thai standards.

Just now, Cameroni said:

 

How do I have low standards? I carefully vetted these girls. They were high quality girls by Thai standards.

How is this not getting through to you? It's you who is low quality. We are being honest here.

Just now, NowNow said:

How is this not getting through to you? It's you who is low quality. We are being honest here.

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Lol, how am I "low quality"? Low quality in what?

Just now, Cameroni said:

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Lol, how am I "low quality"? Low quality in what?

 

There is no point in carrying on with this conversation. You aren't going to understand. You are already locked into your cycle and destined to repeat.

6 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

How do I have low standards? I carefully vetted these girls. They were high quality girls by Thai standards.

 

High quality girls who were willing to have sex with you on your first meeting? Standards are so low.....

12 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

How do I have low standards? I carefully vetted these girls. They were high quality girls by Thai standards.

You have absolutely no idea what Thai standards are. You seem to believe you do but you most assuredly don't. I doubt you have ever even met a "real" professional Thai woman. They do not agree to meet up with men 30 years older than them for a one night stand.  You seem to have been burned time and time again by Asian women of different nationalities. Think about it. 

22 minutes ago, NowNow said:

 

High quality girls who were willing to have sex with you on your first meeting? Standards are so low.....

 

Oh I see what you mean. I think we have wildly divergent views on this. I don't think a girl agreeing to have sex on the first date means she is "low quality". It just means she is in tune with her sexuality. 

 

You could make an argument about sexual self control and loyalty, but you failed to do so.

19 minutes ago, marin said:

You have absolutely no idea what Thai standards are. You seem to believe you do but you most assuredly don't. I doubt you have ever even met a "real" professional Thai woman. They do not agree to meet up with men 30 years older than them for a one night stand.  You seem to have been burned time and time again by Asian women of different nationalities. Think about it. 

 

Yah, I have absolutely no interest in "professional thai women", and if you think a woman having a high paying job means she is of higher quality than a 711 girl who makes her own living and bought herself her own condo at 24, I think you are quite mistaken.

 

I have met plenty of professional Thai women, and they are the last ones I'd be interested in.

19 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Yah, I have absolutely no interest in "professional thai women", and if you think a woman having a high paying job means she is of higher quality than a 711 girl who makes her own living and bought herself her own condo at 24, I think you are quite mistaken.

 

I have met plenty of professional Thai women, and they are the last ones I'd be interested in.

You are clueless it has nothing to do with money.  No wonder your love life is in tatters. 

1 minute ago, marin said:

You are clueless it has nothing to do with money.  No wonder your love life is in tatters. 

 

Whatever, you''re on about, social status, upbringing, money, it is all trumped by character.

She was 29 and super hot when we met.  13 years later, still beautiful and utterly faithful.

7 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Whatever, you''re on about, social status, upbringing, money, it is all trumped by character.

I just finished reading your adventures with "miki" and "snoopy". I no longer wish to engage with you. You are simply a aging sex pat who has moved one rung up the ladder when it comes to getting your "dates". Damn dude, your comments on the family prove you are somehow more than clueless. 

7 minutes ago, Kinnock said:

She was 29 and super hot when we met.  13 years later, still beautiful and utterly faithful.

 

Well, this gives me hope. Thank you for sharing. All it takes is a girl like this, and the search is over.

 

My current chaos is due to the girl I had cheating. You throw the dice, and you win some and lose some.

2 minutes ago, marin said:

I just finished reading your adventures with "miki" and "snoopy". I no longer wish to engage with you. You are simply a aging sex pat who has moved one rung up the ladder when it comes to getting your "dates". Damn dude, your comments on the family prove you are somehow more than clueless. 

 

That's fantastic, cause I never wanted to engage with you. Cheerio!

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Nothing speaks against sex on a first date if both parties are attracted to one another.

 

What's wrong with it?

First date sex usually kills any possible relationship, i would delay sex if i thought a girl had potential, if not then I'd go for it first date

27 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

First date sex usually kills any possible relationship, i would delay sex if i thought a girl had potential, if not then I'd go for it first date

 

Interesting.

 

I guess with 10 times on the first day that relationship never stood a chance. 

2 hours ago, NowNow said:

 

You think you get that by having sex with them on your first meeting? Low standards.

I'd try my hardest to get my balls wet on the first date because I knew they certainly weren't coming back for a repeat performance.

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Oh I see what you mean. I think we have wildly divergent views on this. I don't think a girl agreeing to have sex on the first date means she is "low quality". It just means she is in tune with her sexuality. 

 

You could make an argument about sexual self control and loyalty, but you failed to do so.

 

You see what I mean only if you understand that you are the purveyor of low quality. The girl is incidental to that fact.