Deadlocked Between Trump and Harris in NBC News Poll as Election Approaches

[Talon]

Polls in this century have been skewed to SHAPE opinion, not reflect it.

 

I always ignored national polls because the national vote does not determine the POTUS. The Electoral College determines the POTUS.  Because of how the vast majority of media polls are skewed Left to shape opinion, I ignore them all.

 

Like 2020, this election will be decided by machines and fraudulent ballots in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Because the momentum is so heavily in favor of Republicans, the ballot fraud effort of Democrats may collapse under its own weight. The legitimate vote numbers may be too overwhelming to counter this time; and the RNC has been watching closely and filing lawsuits ahead of election day vs questionable election procedures.  However, 4 of those states have already announced that they will count ballots for as long as necessary to get their desired result.

 

And all those voting machines that were supposedly not connected to the Internet are experiencing "bugs" nationwide (Michigan report) and other technical issues that indicate that they are indeed connected to the Internet.

 

Elections in the United States are still not secure.

[thaibeachlovers]

24 minutes ago, Talon said:

 

That is all performative theater by two of the biggest Happy Talkers in the GOP. 

 

Stefanik is a GOPe Mush Rat with a voting rating of F.

 

Comer doesn't do anything, but talk -- and nothing gets done. He and his buddy Jordan write angry letters, and the Democrats laugh and laugh and laugh.

 

https://rlc.org/ 

 

 

When Trump wins the GOP will laugh and laugh and laugh.

[dinsdale]

1 hour ago, Talon said:

 

That is all performative theater by two of the biggest Happy Talkers in the GOP. 

 

Stefanik is a GOPe Mush Rat with a voting rating of F.

 

Comer doesn't do anything, but talk -- and nothing gets done. He and his buddy Jordan write angry letters, and the Democrats laugh and laugh and laugh.

 

https://rlc.org/ 

 

 

Well here's the point and a lesson in English.

His supporters views are garbage, means all supporters or His supporters' views are garbage which uses the possessive meaning only one view. This is how English works so adding the apostrophe changes the meaning totally. It's clear from what Biden said, that the plural form was used and not the possessive singular form. ALL Trump supporters are garbage. Plural. Half of the country. To add the apostrophe is simply absurd and won't wash with anyone with half a brain.

Edited November 1 by dinsdale

[Talon]

41 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

When Trump wins the GOP will laugh and laugh and laugh.

 

That's true, but it doesn't remove the fact that there are over 150 GOPe Mush RATs in the GOP House and Senate who don't want Trump to win. Oh, they talk a good game. Some even endorse him, but when you look at their voting records, they vote with Democrats and against America First.

[Talon]

11 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Well here's the point and a lesson in English.

His supporters views are garbage, means all supporters or His supporters' views are garbage which uses the possessive meaning only one view. This is how English works so adding the apostrophe changes the meaning totally. It's clear from what Biden said, that the plural form was used and not the possessive singular form. ALL Trump supporters are garbage. Plural. Half of the country.

 

All true, but nothing to do with what I posted.

[dinsdale]

1 minute ago, Talon said:

 

All true, but nothing to do with what I posted.

It means that the House committee has a valid reason to investigate if the official transcript has been altered which does respond to your OP.

[Talon]

7 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

It means that the House committee has a valid reason to investigate if the official transcript has been altered which does respond to your OP.

 

I never said they didn't have a valid reason.

The current House GOP doesn't do anything but Happy Talk. They're not going to do anything but performative theater. ALL of their House committee hearings resulted in ZERO over two years.

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, Talon said:

Polls in this century have been skewed to SHAPE opinion, not reflect it.

 

I always ignored national polls because the national vote does not determine the POTUS. The Electoral College determines the POTUS.  Because of how the vast majority of media polls are skewed Left to shape opinion, I ignore them all.

 

Like 2020, this election will be decided by machines and fraudulent ballots in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Because the momentum is so heavily in favor of Republicans, the ballot fraud effort of Democrats may collapse under its own weight. The legitimate vote numbers may be too overwhelming to counter this time; and the RNC has been watching closely and filing lawsuits ahead of election day vs questionable election procedures.  However, 4 of those states have already announced that they will count ballots for as long as necessary to get their desired result.

 

And all those voting machines that were supposedly not connected to the Internet are experiencing "bugs" nationwide (Michigan report) and other technical issues that indicate that they are indeed connected to the Internet.

 

Elections in the United States are still not secure.

You seem to know nothing about voting machines.

 

Yet you believe the machines are commiting fraud, with zero evidence.

 

Do you remember Mike Lindell?

[Danderman123]

1 minute ago, Talon said:

 

I never said they didn't have a valid reason.

The current House GOP doesn't do anything but Happy Talk. They're not going to do anything but performative theater. ALL of their House committee hearings resulted in ZERO over two years.

It has never occurred to you that the House has no evidence of wrongdoing, therefore they do nothing?

[dinsdale]

A perfect example of the ridiculous fear mongering and the insanity coming out from the left. The Dems only have nonsense like this because the know they have nothing when it comes to inflation, the economy and the border.

 

 

 

[earlinclaifornia]

38 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

A perfect example of the ridiculous fear mongering and the insanity coming out from the left. The Dems only have nonsense like this because the know they have nothing when it comes to inflation, the economy and the border.

 

 

 

You have to be crazy. Sad a Trump win will end America as we know it

This is your best shot?

MAGA full load now from you.

Edited November 1 by earlinclaifornia

[Eric Loh]

37 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

A perfect example of the ridiculous fear mongering and the insanity coming out from the left. The Dems only have nonsense like this because the know they have nothing when it comes to inflation, the economy and the border.

 

 

 

 

She was not wrong to reference internment camp. Trump will invoke 1798 The Alien Enemies Act for his mass deportation policy on Day one. This Act will summarily detain and deport civilians merely on the basis of their ancestry. The law was last invoked in WW2 as the legal authority for interning noncitizens of Japanese, German and Italian descent. Trump spoke of retribution against his p[erceived enemies and this Act will allow Trump to bypass the substantive and procedural protection for noncitizens and weaponized against his enemies.It will be unclear that the conservative packed Supreme Court would  intervene. Debbie Dingell was spot on. 

 

Edited November 1 by Eric Loh
wrong words

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

A perfect example of the ridiculous fear mongering and the insanity coming out from the left. The Dems only have nonsense like this because the know they have nothing when it comes to inflation, the economy and the border.

 

 

 

Trump let 3 million illegals into this country. It would have been more, but COVID stopped them.

 

As for inflation, tell me about the impact of Trump's tariffs on the current 2.2% inflation.

 

The economy is at an all-time high. As a foreigner, you probably aren't benefitting from the US economy booming. I made a fortune on the stock market this year, so your gaslighting doesn't impress me.

[transam]

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

A perfect example of the ridiculous fear mongering and the insanity coming out from the left. The Dems only have nonsense like this because the know they have nothing when it comes to inflation, the economy and the border.

 

 

 

Arnie has spoken, go read "Terminated"..........

[proton]

55 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

 

She was not wrong to reference internment camp. Trump will invoke 1798 The Alien Enemies Act for his mass deportation policy on Day one. This Act will summarily detain and deport civilians merely on the basis of their ancestry. The law was last invoked in WW2 as the legal authority for interning noncitizens of Japanese, German and Italian descent. Trump spoke of retribution against his p[erceived enemies and this Act will allow Trump to bypass the substantive and procedural protection for noncitizens and weaponized against his enemies.It will be unclear that the conservative packed Supreme Court would  intervene. Debbie Dingell was spot on. 

 

 

Obama deported millions of illegals, over 400k in 2012 alone. They need to be interned, then returned, they are criminals and a threat to the economy and stability of the USA

[Eric Loh]

12 minutes ago, proton said:

 

Obama deported millions of illegals, over 400k in 2012 alone. They need to be interned, then returned, they are criminals and a threat to the economy and stability of the USA

Obama was tough on undocumented immigrants who had committed crimes, gang members and those who convicted of felonies or aggravated felonies while giving opportunities under DACA. He didn't need to invoke any acts or fear mongering and demonizing immigrants. Immigrants commit less crimes than US born and take jobs that US citizens don't want or can't do. They don't eat cats and dogs or take over a building if that is what you imply as threat to stabilty. We don't hear of threats to stability until Trump started scaring the gullible segment of the voting population. 

[transam]

32 minutes ago, proton said:

 

Obama deported millions of illegals, over 400k in 2012 alone. They need to be interned, then returned, they are criminals and a threat to the economy and stability of the USA

You mean, like a concentration camp, with armed guards, etc..................😬

[pattayasan]

40 minutes ago, proton said:

 

Obama deported millions of illegals, over 400k in 2012 alone. They need to be interned, then returned, they are criminals and a threat to the economy and stability of the USA

 

It is a double edged sword. The single reason the US GDP and consumer demand has been so strong is actually the high levels of migration over many years. While Europe and most of the rest of the world is floundering the US economy has remained strong. Deporting all those immigrants will remove that excess demand and visibly depress the economy even more.

[illisdean]

Meanwhile, back in PA, Elon Musk is on the campaign trail, for Trump AND this new swing state PA poll should make Kamala pucker up a bit more, as she fades each and every day....into oblivion. The cheat, massive wide scale election fraud is her only hope.

 

 

[pattayasan]

3 minutes ago, illisdean said:

Meanwhile, back in PA, Elon Musk is on the campaign trail, for Trump AND this new swing state PA poll should make Kamala pucker up a bit more, as she fades each and every day....into oblivion. The cheat, massive wide scale election fraud is her only hope.

 

 

 

Poll Watch: Right wing firm Echelon Insights drops another skewed survey

 

https://www.nwprogressive.org/weblog/2024/04/poll-watch-right-wing-firm-echelon-insights-drops-another-skewed-survey-to-boost-dave-reicherts-gubernatorial-ambitions.html

Edited November 1 by pattayasan

[illisdean]

10 minutes ago, pattayasan said:

 

https://www.nwprogressive.org/weblog/2024/04/poll-watch-right-wing-firm-echelon-insights-drops-another-skewed-survey-to-boost-dave-reicherts-gubernatorial-ambitions.html

Maybe Trump is only up 2 points then. In 2020 Biden lead Trump by 4.3 points in polling in PA and won by 1.2 points (83K votes). With record republican early vote turnout in PA and Trumps propensity to over-perform the polling, PA is Trumps to lose now. Kamala is done w/o PA.  Trump leads now in WI/MI (AtlasIntel). Close race there, all comes down to cheating in the blue wall. 

Edited November 1 by illisdean

[Rimmer]

A post that has been altered to bait another member has been removed

[dinsdale]

Here's some inclusivity from the woke left.

'You have to leave now': Brisbane man kicked out of Wickham Hotel for wearing Trump hat as staff claimed people would not 'feel safe'

A Brisbane man is demanding an apology after he was kicked out of a pub for wearing a Trump hat, claiming a staff member told him "you have to go" because "we're a gay bar".

He said he asked the staff member if someone had been offended and if so what had they said, but the staff member “just kept parroting the line, 'Oh, we're a gay bar. You can't do that here. You can't have that here’.”

He said he had asked the staff member what would happen if she was asked to leave an establishment for wearing a pride hat or told she could not enter because of her ideology, but he said the employee had “just pulled… a disgruntled looking face and walked away.”

https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/you-have-to-leave-now-brisbane-man-kicked-out-of-wickham-hotel-for-wearing-trump-hat-as-staff-claimed-people-would-not-feel-safe/news-story/7910555330ceac0fde11ec2244e81603

 

Listen to the audio for the from the horse's mouth interviw.

‘Get out’ – Aussie dad evicted from pub for wearing Donald Trump hat

https://www.2gb.com/get-out-aussie-dad-evicted-from-pub-for-wearing-donald-trump-hat/

 

[Yellowtail]

3 hours ago, earlinclaifornia said:

You have to be crazy. Sad a Trump win will end America as we know it

This is your best shot?

MAGA full load now from you.

Hopefully it will end America as we know it, an open border, DEI, divided, hot-mess of a county and back to being a country I can be proud of again. 

[Yellowtail]

5 hours ago, dinsdale said:

It means that the House committee has a valid reason to investigate if the official transcript has been altered which does respond to your OP.

And (apparently) the Whitehouse added the apostrophe without the stenographer knowing. 

 

The left thinks everyone is as stupid as they are.

[morrobay]

2 hours ago, illisdean said:

Maybe Trump is only up 2 points then. In 2020 Biden lead Trump by 4.3 points in polling in PA and won by 1.2 points (83K votes). With record republican early vote turnout in PA and Trumps propensity to over-perform the polling, PA is Trumps to lose now. Kamala is done w/o PA.  Trump leads now in WI/MI (AtlasIntel). Close race there, all comes down to cheating in the blue wall. 

She needs all three. PA,MI and WI Trump only needs one of the three for 270+. From this chart with Trump + PA and Harris+ MI and WI..Just make two trades : Trade Trumps PA for Harriss' MI or WI . Trump prevails https://www.realclearpolling.com/maps/president/2024/no-toss-up/electoral-college

Edited November 1 by morrobay

[G_Money]

2 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Obama was tough on undocumented immigrants who had committed crimes, gang members and those who convicted of felonies or aggravated felonies while giving opportunities under DACA. He didn't need to invoke any acts or fear mongering and demonizing immigrants. Immigrants commit less crimes than US born and take jobs that US citizens don't want or can't do. They don't eat cats and dogs or take over a building if that is what you imply as threat to stabilty. We don't hear of threats to stability until Trump started scaring the gullible segment of the voting population. 

 
Is this the October surprise you had mentioned was coming a while back?

 

 

[proton]

2 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Obama was tough on undocumented immigrants who had committed crimes, gang members and those who convicted of felonies or aggravated felonies while giving opportunities under DACA. He didn't need to invoke any acts or fear mongering and demonizing immigrants. Immigrants commit less crimes than US born and take jobs that US citizens don't want or can't do. They don't eat cats and dogs or take over a building if that is what you imply as threat to stabilty. We don't hear of threats to stability until Trump started scaring the gullible segment of the voting population. 

 

 

ALL ilegals are criminals

[proton]

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

And (apparently) the Whitehouse added the apostrophe without the stenographer knowing. 

 

The left thinks everyone is as stupid as they are.

 

Laughable they came out with that old stutter excuse, he's has never had a stutter. Why not be honest for once, it does not matter now anyway, just admit he does not know what he is saying half the time. If he does he has it in for her.

[dinsdale]