Backlash as Popular Sandwich Chain Cancels Franchise Locations

[BangkokReady]

8 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Subway operate as a franchise  , you open a Subway shop and you buy all the ingredients from Subway at an inflated price .

   I suspect that some Subway shops stopped buying from Subway and bought their own ingredients from markets , cutting out Suways monetary income 

 

The company would notice instantly if they stopped ordering completely.  They probably supplemented their orders with externally bought ingredients along with making the stuff they bought from Subway last a little too long, hence the complaints.

[Bday Prang]

There used to be "pizza hut" which sold relatively decent pizzas,  but it changed to The Pizza Co.  and was never the same afterwards

 

seems to have confused somebody   can't think why

Edited November 4 by Bday Prang

[Bday Prang]

1 minute ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I guess it's just something different.

Every couple of months I like to eat KFC, and every couple of months I like a Big Mac. It just happens. And I think if we don't eat it all the time then it's not a big deal. 

Yeah i'd go along with that , now and again is ok   I always preferred "burger king" but I can't stand their offerings anymore

[treetops]

1 hour ago, skorts said:

That book was a great read. Sadly, the author Eric Schlosser passed away earlier this year at the age of 53 with complications from cancer. No idea if his “Super Size Me” film where he ate a McDonald’s only diet for 30 days contributed to his cancer but he gained 25 pounds and suffered from a spike in his cholesterol after 30 days of eating McDonald’s food only. RIP. 

 

The Super Size Me guy was Morgan Spurlock.

[jayboy]

15 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

the bread wasn't as good as back in the US

 

That's a very low bar.Every European traveling in the US knows that most American bread is uneatable (an opinion shared by many of my American friends.)

[Bday Prang]

1 minute ago, jayboy said:

 

That's a very low bar.Every European traveling in the US knows that most American bread is uneatable (an opinion shared by many of my American friends.)

Nothing compares to the green bread that they use for the ready made 7/11  sarnies

[fredwiggy]

3 minutes ago, jayboy said:

 

That's a very low bar.Every European traveling in the US knows that most American bread is uneatable (an opinion shared by many of my American friends.)

Funny, I and everyone I know in the US loves the breads there, as they're as good as anywhere. You can buy hundreds of different homemade breads from many bakeries there. I'm thinking your friends bought their bread at regular retailers who don't carry many specialty breads, besides the Whole Foods Market chain and others like them. There are many varieties in all areas.You can also make your own bread, any kind available worldwide, from ingredients bought in the US and a breadmaker.I'm wondering how you would know every European that travels in the US personally.

Edited November 4 by fredwiggy

[marin]

5 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

Another option is to buy a Vietnamese ban mi.  Not sure who sells them.

Do you ever think before you post?

[Bday Prang]

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

Funny, I and everyone I know in the US loves the breads there, as they're as good as anywhere. You can buy hundreds of different homemade breads from many bakeries there. I'm thinking your friends bought their bread at regular retailers who don't carry many specialty breads, besides the Whole Foods Market chain and others like them. There are many varieties in all areas.

its not "breads"   its "loaves"   come on fred there are standards to be maintained

[Bday Prang]

2 minutes ago, marin said:

Do you ever think before you post?

Brilliant response 

[fredwiggy]

Just now, Bday Prang said:

its not "breads"   its "loaves"   come on fred there are standards to be maintained

Loaves of breads. A loaf is the shape.This is a small list of breads available that are made there, along with many more sub styles..............https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_breads

Edited November 4 by fredwiggy

[jayboy]

10 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

everyone I know in the US loves the breads there, as they're as good as anywhere.

 

Sadly that is not the case.Of course decent bread can be purchased mainly in the larger cities where European influence can be traced.I have myself have brought excellent bread in Boston.But it's the exception.Most Americans eat rubbish bread,

 

https://www.greenlifephilosophy.com/what-is-wrong-with-bread-in-america/

 

Of course sophisticated Americans in NY and LA often don't eat bread at all being allergic to carbs, unlike the generously built patrons at Subway.

[Ralf001]

59 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

BBQ sauce should not be allowed anywhere near Bacon it should be a criminal offence to even think about such blasphemy.

Only HP sauce is acceptable   

 

I'd prefer to gobble a dogs doodle than eat HP.

[fredwiggy]

Just now, jayboy said:

 

Sadly that is not the case.Of course decent bread can be purchased mainly in the larger cities where European influence can be traced.I have myself have brought excellent bread in Boston.But it's the exception.Most Americans eat rubbish bread,

 

https://www.greenlifephilosophy.com/what-is-wrong-with-bread-in-america/

 

Of course sophisticated Americans in NY and LA often don't eat bread at all being allergic to carbs, unlike the generously built patrons at Subway.

You can buy good bread almost anywhere in even smaller cities, because they have bakeries with ancestry from Europe. You can also make your own without adding the additives that make regular bread from the US "uneatable". I don't know what you mean by allergic to carbs in the US, as most people there are overweight from eating too many or bad carbs. If you don't or haven't lived there, you can only go by others opinions who might have visited. I come from the NYC area, a pool of every nationality on earth, especially Europeans, and there's homemade everything there and I grew up with it.

[fredwiggy]

Just now, Ralf001 said:

 

I'd prefer to gobble a dogs doodle than eat HP.

I'd like to try it to see how it is. The US has many different sauces and one that's good is A-1 steak sauce.

[frank83628]

11 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

A long time ago I read this great book:

Fast Food Nation: What The All-American Meal is Doing to the World Kindle Edition by Eric Schlosser (Author) 

 

It exposes the whole industry. And as far as I remember, the above sandwich chain was one of the worst.

 

Enjoy!

 

 

very good book, very interesting insight into things, i didn't eat maccas for years after reading that. he did another one, reefer madness. cant remember too much about it though. 

[jayboy]

11 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

You can buy good bread almost anywhere in even smaller cities, because they have bakeries with ancestry from Europe

 

Agreed but it is not the norm. Furthermore your suggestion one should make one's own bread rather proves my point - American manafactured bread generally is putrid.

 

By allergic to carbs I was introducing a tiny morsel of European irony.As in most places the rich and fashionable in America are not generally obese because they try to avoid carbs like bread - though I suppose they rely more on Ozempic these days.You don't see many fatties in the better parts of NY or LA - except in Subway of course.

Edited November 4 by jayboy

[OneMoreFarang]

13 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

very good book, very interesting insight into things, i didn't eat maccas for years after reading that. he did another one, reefer madness. cant remember too much about it though. 

And another one: Command and Control: Nuclear Weapons, the Damascus Accident, and the Illusion of Safety

That is very scary.

[Bday Prang]

26 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Loaves of breads. A loaf is the shape.This is a small list of breads available that are made there, along with many more sub styles..............https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_breads

not wishing to be pedantic,but   I don't think breads is a real word it is what's known as an "uncountable noun"  and needs a "classifier" when referring to a specific quantity

  As an aside this applies to all nouns in Thai language and "loaves " (of bread) is used in many Thai language books as an easily understood example of the  relatively rare use of classifiers in English    

  I have never heard anybody order " 3 breads" ever, it just sounds weird   whereas 3 loaves of bread is perfectly normal.

Loaves of bread can be all sorts of shapes and either sliced or unsliced, although the classifier would not normally be used if another descriptive is available ie "baguette"  3 baguettes would be fine but not 3 breads

You are not obliged to agree with me  but 

https://preply.com/en/question/bread-countable-or-uncountable-45550     and there are many others

[Bday Prang]

37 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

 

I'd prefer to gobble a dogs doodle than eat HP.

you need professional help

[Bday Prang]

31 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I'd like to try it to see how it is. The US has many different sauces and one that's good is A-1 steak sauce.

Hp is very  similar. But much better

[Ralf001]

10 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

you need professional help

 

they told me I was beyond help.

[Keeps]

9 hours ago, JoePai said:

No, a Bacon Bap

Followed up with a sausage bap 'chaser' all accompanied with a mug of strong tea.

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, alien365 said:

Stopped going after they refused to accept cash. They can reap what they sow.

Subway as a brand has not gone cashless, you may have tried one franchise that has...but I  doubt it, why would they do that?  

[Keeps]

1 hour ago, Bday Prang said:

And the more you eat the better you feel. Bacon is truly a gift from the gods

God bless the pigs who sacrificed their lives. Amen to the porkers. They did not die in vain 🙏

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, Bday Prang said:

There used to be "pizza hut" which sold relatively decent pizzas,  but it changed to The Pizza Co.  and was never the same afterwards

 

seems to have confused somebody   can't think why

Pizza Hut did not "change to The Pizza Company", they are two different businesses and they are both still here.  I'd guess that the confused are confused by your confusion.   Perhaps the emoji was awarded to you by Minor International or PH Capital, the respective owners of The Pizza Co and Pizza Hut?.

Edited November 4 by Liverpool Lou

[KhaoNiaw]

41 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

not wishing to be pedantic,but   I don't think breads is a real word it is what's known as an "uncountable noun"  and needs a "classifier" when referring to a specific quantity

  As an aside this applies to all nouns in Thai language and "loaves " (of bread) is used in many Thai language books as an easily understood example of the  relatively rare use of classifiers in English    

  I have never heard anybody order " 3 breads" ever, it just sounds weird   whereas 3 loaves of bread is perfectly normal.

Loaves of bread can be all sorts of shapes and either sliced or unsliced, although the classifier would not normally be used if another descriptive is available ie "baguette"  3 baguettes would be fine but not 3 breads

You are not obliged to agree with me  but 

https://preply.com/en/question/bread-countable-or-uncountable-45550     and there are many others

 

As we're excusing pedantry.
Most uses of 'bread' are uncountable. However, in the example used above "specialty breads" is correct. The meaning there is different types of breads. And is also the exact example given here: The bakery is known for its specialty breads (= types of bread).
https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/american_english/bread
If you're not convinced, try a Google search for "specialty breads" or other "adjective breads" e.g. "savoury breads", "European breads" etc.

"Loaves of breads" is pushing it though, I would agree (though not impossible).

Edited November 4 by KhaoNiaw

[Keeps]

11 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Subway as a brand has not gone cashless, you may have tried one franchise that has...but I  doubt it, why would they do that?  

I recently went to one on Latkrabang, ordered, got all the fillings then they told me no cash. Only had cash on me as cards were in the hotel. Agree that not all outlets are like this but this one certainly was. Left without my Sub.

[Bday Prang]

16 minutes ago, KhaoNiaw said:

 

As we're excusing pedantry.
Most uses of 'bread' are uncountable. However, in the example used above "specialty breads" is correct. The meaning there is different types of breads. And is also the exact example given here: The bakery is known for its specialty breads (= types of bread).
https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/american_english/bread
If you're not convinced, try a Google search for "specialty breads" or other "adjective breads" e.g. "savoury breads", "European breads" etc.

"Loaves of breads" is pushing it though, I would agree (though not impossible).

Personally i would go with "speciality bread"    or "loaves"    The bakery is known for its specialty bread  ( or loaves) 

although as I mentioned earlier as the different types of bread have specific names the use of the word "loaf / loaves would not normally be used when quantifying      IE  One would order 3 baguettes not 3 loaves of baguette

 

 It would never be "Loaves of breads"   it would  one loaf of bread  or three loaves of bread

 I looked on google as I was genuinely surprised,  I have never heard the word "breads"    used before  there are several conflicting links as to whether it is a real word or not,   but I can't argue with the link you found either   so I guess I'll stand corrected.     maybe its a recent linguistic development, similar to how   I've noticed people nowadays do the "Math" as opposed to the "maths"

Breads still sounds weird to me though, and in a grating sort of way, 

[treetops]

3 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

I've noticed people nowadays do the "Math" as opposed to the "maths"

 

"Math" is an Americanism.  "Maths" - short for Mathematics - is the original term.  It is confusing as "Arith" is used correctly as shorthand  for Arithmetic in English, whereas following the maths rule it would be "Ariths" which just isn't right.