How to stop the Boats.

[jippytum]

John Howard the Aussie premier had a no boats policy that worked. 

The navy turned them round and sent them back. 

After a few failed attempts immigrants decided not to risk it. 

The UK policy is to welcomr them with open arms and provide hotels. No wonder record numbers are crossing the channel in small boats. 

The majority are muslim men who would never qualify for legal entry. 

[Burma Bill]

21 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

......... So how do we slow or stop them crossing. 

 

As we did back in 1066 - the last time England was "invaded".

Soon put a stop to the inflatables!

 

[helloagain]

21 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Send them all immediately back to where they came from, France.

Nobody can claim that they escaped from France because they fear for their lives.

 

 

I agree. It's up to France to stop them going through France. But they have open borders..... TOUGH.

[OneMoreFarang]

12 minutes ago, helloagain said:

I agree. It's up to France to stop them going through France. But they have open borders..... TOUGH.

 

If France doesn't want to stop them, fine.

I guess in the moment they don't care much because France is only transit. But if the UK would return all those people right away back to France, then I guess France would take that more serious.

I find it hard to understand how they can legally apply for asylum in the UK coming from France.

Edited 20 hours ago by OneMoreFarang

[Surasak]

22 hours ago, scottiejohn said:

And totally against SOLAS etc regulations.

 

Surely rules are meant to be broken. I agree with CharlieH. Throw them a few life jackets then sink the boat. If the illegals knew this was a great possibility, they would be less inclined to set out from a safe country. One small problem. It would take guts for a PM to do it, and 2 Tier Keir does not have the guts of a squashed frog. 

[josephbloggs]

4 minutes ago, Surasak said:

Surely rules are meant to be broken. I agree with CharlieH. Throw them a few life jackets then sink the boat. If the illegals knew this was a great possibility, they would be less inclined to set out from a safe country. One small problem. It would take guts for a PM to do it, and 2 Tier Keir does not have the guts of a squashed frog. 

Yeah, the PM doesn't have the guts to order the navy to commit to mass murder of innocent people in contravention of international law. What a coward!

Edited 20 hours ago by josephbloggs

[MalcolmB]

7 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Yeah, the PM doesn't have the guts to order the navy to commit to mass murder of innocent people in contravention of international law. What a coward!

We might have to dig Winston up.

 

 

[giddyup]

21 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Why didn’t the Aborigines think of that before the First Fleet arrived with all our thieves and prostitutes?

 

Too late now I suppose. We don’t want them back.

Thinking isn't their strong suit.

[Surasak]

8 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Yeah, the PM doesn't have the guts to order the navy to commit to mass murder of innocent people in contravention of international law. What a coward!

Who said anything about the navy, or murder. Having given them life jackets they are not being totally abandoned. People have swam the channel in the past, its 12 miles either way.

[SAFETY FIRST]

23 hours ago, CharlieH said:

I would simply instruct the Royal Navy to sink them ! Life jackets cheaper than hotels etc. Give them all life-jackets and sink the boat.

 

Bet they'd stop as soon as it was known what will happen., and it's been demonstrated. 

It's great to read a Mod has the same thoughts as me. 👍

 

Love it 👌

 

Edited 19 hours ago by SAFETY FIRST

[BarraMarra]

One of the problems facing us are the Do - Gooders who welcome Refugees this sends a message that they are welcome and will be given all they need. A few drownings wont and doesn't stop them its accepted. In the report i posted a Vietnamese immigrants reason was he owed money to loan sharks and his life would be better coming to the UK. Until we or should I say the Government realize these immigrants are risking everything for the free handouts Boats will continue. We will struggle our young will not have the chance of getting their first house due to most empty houses now being renovated and given to migrant family's. Think of the numbers coming in Daily 4 to 500 daily every Town or city has hotels housing them the council will simply make way for new arrivals by giving them housing then there will be rooms available again in hotels.

[Mises]

23 hours ago, CharlieH said:

Simple,it would never be approved and too many bleeding hearts would outcry,, but I would simply instruct the Royal Navy to sink them ! Life jackets cheaper than hotels etc. Give them all life-jackets and sink the boat.

 

Bet they'd stop as soon as it was known what will happen., and it's been demonstrated. 

Yes, correct, they could stop them tomorrow if they wanted to but they don't.  They have and wear life jackets, well certainly the young fit guys with fresh military style haircuts.

 

All it would take is a credible threat that the navy will blow them out of the water the minute they enter UK waters.  They know exactly where they are, they have planes, drones and the occasional helicoptor scanning the channel so border control and the RNLI can pick them up leaving the £15,000 RIB to return to France for more. How many would need to be blown out of the water? 1?  2? Probably only 1 and rescuing none.

 

We vacinate our children despite the risk that although very rare some will be damaged for life or die, it is a risk taken for the greater good.  Same principle here.

 

Mon 04NOV24 07:12 

[wwest5829]

The answer, whether dealing with Europe or the USA is an easy newer. Addressing/curing the cause is a whole lot more complicated. You want to stop the migration? Then look to the causes … lack of food, clothing, shelter, economic security the ability to be provided to any of us and the vast majority would opt to stay in the country of our birth, where are families have been for generations, where we know the language and customs.

[FritsSikkink]

On 11/4/2024 at 3:56 PM, scottiejohn said:

And totally against SOLAS etc regulations.

 

It is an invasion. Why do you have an army, to stop invasions.

[RayC]

3 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

If France doesn't want to stop them, fine.

I guess in the moment they don't care much because France is only transit. But if the UK would return all those people right away back to France, then I guess France would take that more serious.

I find it hard to understand how they can legally apply for asylum in the UK coming from France.

 

Very few illegal immigrants arrive in France. They mainly arrive in Greece, Italy and Turkey and these countries can't cope with the numbers.

 

Many say, "not our problem. You sort it out". Well, one way for those countries to sort it out is to not try and prevent these people from leaving their countries. Pretty soon, it becomes Germany's problem, then France's and, eventually, the UK's.

 

Much is said here and elsewhere about how to deal with the problem. 'Smash the trafficking gangs'. Great idea. How? Stop the boats at source? Again, great idea. How? How can the length of the Algerian, Tunisian and Syrian borders be monitored and controlled? 

 

Imo the sad truth is that no one has a solution. The best that we can hope for is to stem the tide (no pun intended) and imo that will require Europe-wide co-operation. 

[SingAPorn]

The best and most politically acceptable solution would be to follow Italy and have centers set up in Rwanda or other countries and then sent all the illegals or asylum seekers there during the processing period. For sure, they won't will to be apprended and will leave by themselves.

 

If nothing is done against the criminal mafia networks in those countries that organise the transport to the promised land, nothing will change. But rarely does the media investigate and mention doubtful or alleged connections between the big European ships that rescue the migrants at sea and their connections with the human trafickers who inform the rescue ships on the next departures. So they could be in league.

 

Not to forget the connections with all the local mafia in Europe who have good use of the helpless migrants and use them as drug peddlars or for various forms of labour or sexual exploitation.

 

So at the end of the day, many are making money on these migrants in Europe-UK so why Stop the Golden Geese from comming in ?

 

The European Union under it's present shape, managment and centralized governance (domination) from Bruxelles is plainly destroying Europe and the UK.  Same in America where the wokes and pro Biden gangs are doing similar.

Edited 16 hours ago by SingAPorn

[RayWright]

As @RayC says, the initial arrival location isn't France, and by EU law they can be sent back to their initial point of EU entry. However the French don't. 

The UK is no longer part of the EU, however their embarkcation point is France, so technically all it takes is UK to pass the same law. However the wokeraty would be coughing over their bowl of breakfast Quinoa and smashed avocado on toast if such a thing became reality, yet they'll all say no to offering temporary accommodation to any that land.

The Rwanda initiative had legs, and the numbers of boat people arriving did fall. Yet as soon as the objectors started creating a scene, so the initiative was held up in red tape the numbers were back and increasing.

Ironically the Germans are looking to adopt the Rwandan idea and take advantage of the investment the UK made building the accommodation, schools, hospitals etc to house them.

To stop them it needs a strong deterrent, but with politics so woke, it won't happen.

 

[lungbing]

How about on arrival shipping them straight to a remote Scottish island.  They'll be in the UK as they want and they can be processed slowly as they live in tents.  

[BruceWayne]

10 hours ago, quake said:

Not a good idea.

Many would die of hyperthermia.

 

 

I don't see the problem with that tbh

And I don't think most of the majority in the UK would see a problem with it either

(despite what the lying (largely tribe owned and controlled) press would have you believe.

 

Even the suicidally empathic are <deleted> off with gimmigration

 

[BruceWayne]

IMHO the people in control of the UK

(the think tanks and 'charitable' foundations who fund and control the politicians)

want rid of the Human Rights Act

 

They also want Digital IDs for all (then they can do away with cash and introduce 'carbon linked'  

Digital money (100% Central Bank Digital Currency) which will allow them to

program where, what you are and aren't allowed to spend 'your' 'money' on.

 

Most of the population want to keep the Human Rights Act & NOT have CBDCs - therefore the elites create problems via non-announced policies:

ie. Unlimited Gimmigration

so the popluation are eventually forced to DEMAND 

Digital IDs & the scrapping of Human Rights legislation.

 

Morons will scoff and leave laughing emojis but this allowed illegal gimmigration makes perfect sense to the clever people in the think tanks and perfectly 

explains this gimmigration NONsense.

 

That's my opinion and, if you look into it, it's the only explanation that makes sense irl

 

Think about it 🤔

 

---

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2006/nov/07/idcards.immigrationpolicy

Blair has been trying to push through Digital IDs for over 20 years.

Out of control gimmigrants is the perfect excuse

 

CBDCs = "Absolute (complete) control".

The central planners ALWAYS want total control but they NEED Digital IDs for it to work.

 

Gimmigration is just a trojan horse imho

 

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/07/03/sunaks-britcoin-ambitions-hit-by-huge-public-backlash/

Sunak's Britcoin ambitions hit by huge public backlash

3 Jul 2023 ... Rishi Sunak's ambition to turn the UK into a digital currency hub has been dealt a blow following a public backlash over plans to introduce ...

 

Edited 15 hours ago by BruceWayne

[quake]

4 hours ago, BruceWayne said:

 

I don't see the problem with that tbh

And I don't think most of the majority in the UK would see a problem with it either

(despite what the lying (largely tribe owned and controlled) press would have you believe.

 

Even the suicidally empathic are <deleted> off with gimmigration

 

 

Wow.

Thinking and doing are very different things.

I don't think your words truly represent the uk population.

Just take the people back to the French coast, and drop them off on the beach.

End of.

 

[still kicking]

On 11/4/2024 at 4:42 PM, CharlieH said:

Simple,it would never be approved and too many bleeding hearts would outcry,, but I would simply instruct the Royal Navy to sink them ! Life jackets cheaper than hotels etc. Give them all life-jackets and sink the boat.

 

Bet they'd stop as soon as it was known what will happen., and it's been demonstrated. 

Do what the Aussies do.

[GammaGlobulin]

On 11/4/2024 at 4:04 PM, CharlieH said:

And there you have it ! Bleeding hearts and more regs. Typical. 

The OP asked how to stop, I gave my opinion, I also said it wouldn't be approved, still doesn't change my opinion or what I woukd do to stop it.🙂

 

 

Better not to sink the boats.

Rather, just point them in the right direction, the USA.

Most Americans welcome immigrants.

Also, America has far more room for immigrants.

IMHO, the UK is already completely full.

 

[BruceWayne]

18 minutes ago, quake said:

 

Wow.

Thinking and doing are very different things.

I don't think your words truly represent the uk population.

Just take the people back to the French coast, and drop them off on the beach.

End of.

 

 

Give me the guns + legal immunity and I don't think there'd be a shortage of volunteers to stop these <deleted>s.

 

The MSM will try to sell the 'oh but we're so tolerant" BS to cuck us but many are waking up to the reality:

taxes highest they've been in 60 years,

cuts to pensioners (WFA)

high inflation (prices doubled since 2020 on most items

and so on

.  

Anyone with half a brain is gonna point the finger at gimmigrants in hotels at taxpayer expense as a big prol;em hence EVERYONE is properly <deleted> off at the situation.

 

May not seem that way from out in Thailand but youre prolly getting your reports via BS news outlets staffed by fake & ghey liberals.

 

However, the powers that be allow it to continue for a number of reasons as set out below:

 

Create the Problem

Anticipate the Reaction

Present the Solution (Digital IDs and minimised 'Human Rights'...

 

 

4 hours ago, BruceWayne said:

IMHO the people in control of the UK

(the think tanks and 'charitable' foundations who fund and control the politicians)

want rid of the Human Rights Act

 

They also want Digital IDs for all (then they can do away with cash and introduce 'carbon linked'  

Digital money (100% Central Bank Digital Currency) which will allow them to

program where, what you are and aren't allowed to spend 'your' 'money' on.

 

Most of the population want to keep the Human Rights Act & NOT have CBDCs - therefore the elites create problems via non-announced policies:

ie. Unlimited Gimmigration

so the popluation are eventually forced to DEMAND 

Digital IDs & the scrapping of Human Rights legislation.

 

Morons will scoff and leave laughing emojis but this allowed illegal gimmigration makes perfect sense to the clever people in the think tanks and perfectly 

explains this gimmigration NONsense.

 

That's my opinion and, if you look into it, it's the only explanation that makes sense irl

 

Think about it 🤔

 

---

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2006/nov/07/idcards.immigrationpolicy

Blair has been trying to push through Digital IDs for over 20 years.

Out of control gimmigrants is the perfect excuse

 

CBDCs = "Absolute (complete) control".

The central planners ALWAYS want total control but they NEED Digital IDs for it to work.

 

Gimmigration is just a trojan horse imho

 

 

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/07/03/sunaks-britcoin-ambitions-hit-by-huge-public-backlash/

Sunak's Britcoin ambitions hit by huge public backlash

3 Jul 2023 ... Rishi Sunak's ambition to turn the UK into a digital currency hub has been dealt a blow following a public backlash over plans to introduce ...

 

 

Edited 11 hours ago by BruceWayne

[still kicking]

9 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

Better not to sink the boats.

Rather, just point them in the right direction, the USA.

Most Americans welcome immigrants.

Also, America has far more room for immigrants.

IMHO, the UK is already completely full.

 

You talking trough your back side in OZ we send them back and burn their boats 

[josephbloggs]

17 minutes ago, BruceWayne said:

 

Give me the guns + legal immunity and I don't think there'd be a shortage of volunteers to stop these <deleted>s.

 

The MSM will try to sell the 'oh but we're so tolerant" BS to cuck us but many are waking up to the reality:

taxes highest they've been in 60 years,

cuts to pensioners (WFA)

high inflation (prices doubled since 2020 on most items

and so on

.  

Anyone with half a brain is gonna point the finger at gimmigrants in hotels at taxpayer expense as a big prol;em hence EVERYONE is properly <deleted> off at the situation.

 

May not seem that way from out in Thailand but youre prolly getting your reports via BS news outlets staffed by fake & ghey liberals.

 

However, the powers that be allow it to continue for a number of reasons as set out below:

 

Create the Problem

Anticipate the Reaction

Present the Solution (Digital IDs and minimised 'Human Rights'...

 

 

 

I think you have issues.

[quake]

27 minutes ago, BruceWayne said:

 

Give me the guns + legal immunity and I don't think there'd be a shortage of volunteers to stop these <deleted>s.

 

Yes the Asean Now,  keyboard warrior is a mighty brave man. 

 

The British have a good understand of right from wrong and what is fair play.

Murdering people. honestly. what a laugh.

 

Power to the keyboard warriors of Asean Now. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 10 hours ago by quake

[GammaGlobulin]

20 minutes ago, still kicking said:

You talking trough your back side in OZ we send them back and burn their boats 

 

Now....we AGREE on something!

Burn their boats.

Send them back.

 

This is the ONLY way.

 

The UK hasn't the room for 2 Billion Africans, much less 1.7 Billion Indians, on top of the Africans.

 

There can be no compromise.

And, the FLOOD is coming, due to Global Warming.

 

STOP the immigration all together.

Letting in just a few, at first, is meaningless when there is a Billion or Two Billion, on the way, and now in the pipeline.

 

 

[BruceWayne]

25 minutes ago, quake said:

 

The British

 

AKA as 'mugs' throughout the countries where these immigrants are coming from 

due to free housing, spending allowance and other taxpayer funded free <<deleted>>

unparralelled in Europe OR anywhere else (why else do they make a beeline for the UK?

It ain't for the weather!

 

 

25 minutes ago, quake said:

 

have a good understand of right from wrong

 

If someone scammed their way into your home, would you make them a cup of tea, house, clothe and feed them?

If not, why should the UK taxpayer?

Everyone has a breaking point - even the fake & ghey 👀

 

Illegal gimmigration is wrong and the British who actually live here know I'm right.

 

25 minutes ago, quake said:

 

and what is fair play.

 

Illegal immigration is unfair play.

 

10s of thousands *per week* at taxpater expense is NOT fair play.

Brits can play dirty too when needs must

 

25 minutes ago, quake said:

Murdering people. honestly. what a laugh.

 

It wouldn't be murder in the circumstances so I'll allow it.

 

Pretty sure the Armed Forces would be up for it too since you know, that's what most of them actually signed up for

(i.e DEFENDING THEIR COUNTRY)

 

However...

 

 

 

 

 IMHO the people in control of the UK

(the think tanks and 'charitable' foundations who fund and control the politicians)

want rid of the Human Rights Act

 

They also want Digital IDs for all (then they can do away with cash and introduce 'carbon linked'  

Digital money (100% Central Bank Digital Currency) which will allow them to

program where, what you are and aren't allowed to spend 'your' 'money' on.

 

Most of the population want to keep the Human Rights Act & NOT have CBDCs - therefore the elites create problems via non-announced policies:

ie. Unlimited Gimmigration

so the popluation are eventually forced to DEMAND 

Digital IDs & the scrapping of Human Rights legislation.

 

Morons will scoff and leave laughing emojis but this allowed illegal gimmigration makes perfect sense to the clever people in the think tanks and perfectly 

explains this gimmigration NONsense.

 

That's my opinion and, if you look into it, it's the only explanation that makes sense irl

 

Think about it 🤔

 

 

 

Edited 10 hours ago by BruceWayne

[chickenslegs]

I'll start by saying that I am very proud that my country (UK) provides sanctuary for genuine asylum seekers, and gives aid to people/countries in distress.

At heart I am a Liberal/Socialist, but I have to credit the Tory party for a perfectly reasonable and workable solution, which was to send asylum seekers immediately to a safe country (Rwanda) while their applications were assessed. Safety and a reasonable standard of accommodation guaranteed.

Pass the asylum test, get accommodated in the UK, fail the test, go back to their own country.

This,as far as I can tell, is similar to the Australian system.

The arrangement would benefit Rwanda (income, employment), and discourage false claims of asylum, whilst not compromising the safety of genuine applicants.

I can not understand why anyone could object to this arrangement, however the new Labour government cancelled it as one of their first measures.