Pattaya parents outraged after teacher attacks 12 year old boy

[NativeBob]

10 hours ago, Confuscious said:

A few days later, before the trial, he hanged himself in jail.

What nationality was he?

[sambum]

This kind of thing happens far too often, and there are probably a multitude more of unreported cases.

The authorities need to make examples of a few of these licensed child batterers by the strongest punishments possible - only then will these teachers realise that they are accountable after all. Up to now it seems that they are given a "free rein" to bully their students, and many such acts are swept under the carpet as the school does not want to be seen in a bad light (The old "face" thing). Personally, I would think that if a school takes strong action against these adult bullies, it would actually show the school in a GOOD light, and show parents that their children are in good hands. 

[BritScot]

10 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

 

Despite being a teacher, you failed to fully understand what you read.

The teacher has reportedly expressed a willingness to apologise, according to the school principal.

So he admitted his guilt.

Or just wants it to go away. Also he may have been ordered to say that. Thai teachers are very submissive to the principle.

[Confuscious]

6 hours ago, toho said:

I condemn hard physical punishment like in this story. But I notice regular disrespect towards teachers.

Especially in USA, Europe.

Some ideas of dr. Spock, and parents who are not at home due to jobs, resulted in some spoilt children.

A well deserved soft slap in the face at the right time can correct this behaviour very quickly and has more impact than 1.000 words.  Children need to know their boundaries.

In my youth, long time ago, my father used to tell me: if the teacher hits you then you will probably have deserved it. And do not come complaining, otherwise I will give you an extra punishment.

But yeah: that was in the old times.

At the time I was a teacher (1971 to 1975), it was commonly accepted that school kids would get a slap on the back of their head or a tick with a ruler on their hands when they would push it beyond the acceptable limits.
The concensus was that you would harm a child more by words than by giving a light physical correction.
Telling a child that he was useless, he was a street child with no education, etc. could induce a negative behavior in a child that would last far longer as the slap on their hands.

[jacko45k]

22 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

 

The teacher has reportedly expressed a willingness to apologise, according to the school principal.

So he admitted his guilt.

No, just a willingness to apologize, likely in an effort to save his job. 

It didn't say he admitted his guilt at all.

 

Mind you, I believe he did it too!

[jacko45k]

18 hours ago, Confuscious said:

99,99% of the Thai teachers fit that description.

Sad testimonial....I don't think it is that bad.

[fredwiggy]

19 hours ago, toho said:

I condemn hard physical punishment like in this story. But I notice regular disrespect towards teachers.

Especially in USA, Europe.

Some ideas of dr. Spock, and parents who are not at home due to jobs, resulted in some spoilt children.

A well deserved soft slap in the face at the right time can correct this behaviour very quickly and has more impact than 1.000 words.  Children need to know their boundaries.

In my youth, long time ago, my father used to tell me: if the teacher hits you then you will probably have deserved it. And do not come complaining, otherwise I will give you an extra punishment.

But yeah: that was in the old times.

Violence teaches the children that violence works, and they then use it in their own relationships as adults, with their girlfriends, boyfriends and wives. And using weapons here in school to hit the children also teaches them to be cowards and use weapons when they fight, as we see almost daily on the news and which happens more that we don't see. Children get spoiled when you give them rewards for bad behavior, let them stay 24/7 on their phones, and when they do wrong, they are still allowed to live on those phones. Anyone that teaches violence as an answer is a disturbed, violent individual, and we need less of these people, especially as parents and teachers. Being lazy and not talking to the children leads some to use violence as an answer, and breeds more of the same.

Edited November 10 by fredwiggy

[fredwiggy]

13 hours ago, Confuscious said:

At the time I was a teacher (1971 to 1975), it was commonly accepted that school kids would get a slap on the back of their head or a tick with a ruler on their hands when they would push it beyond the acceptable limits.
The concensus was that you would harm a child more by words than by giving a light physical correction.
Telling a child that he was useless, he was a street child with no education, etc. could induce a negative behavior in a child that would last far longer as the slap on their hands.

And showing them violence shows them that's the way to go if anyone confronts you in a non violent manner. You never tell a child they are useless but tell them the behavior was wrong, and they expect better from them. How would they feel if others treated them the same, and showing them there are better ways to deal with anger. Self defense is one thing. Using violence to alter behavior teaches them the same, and is why so many in the world today use violence as an answer. They learn it at home, and then in schools.

[fredwiggy]

20 hours ago, Confuscious said:

99,99% of the Thai teachers fit that description.

One can only go by personal experience and what others have said. I myself have seen my daughters teacher hit many students with  a stick when they didn't answer a question fast enough, or started acting a little goofy, as most 7 year olds do. I talked to the supervisor and she had a talk with the teacher. I saw it happen again, and was told she also hit my daughter on the butt with the stick. I again talked to the supervisor, telling her if it happens again, she would be up on charges and removed. It seems to have stopped, as I haven't noticed any other incidents when picking up my daughter, but I'm only there some of the time as she also stays with her mother. If it was a male teacher, he would have been down for the count. I do hear it happens often here, but can only speak from what I've seen. I see mothers walking around and going to clinics with their kids holding sticks, and have seen one in my village hit her son when he started acting out, so It's also parents of course that use this abusive behavior. They learned from other abusers in their childhood.

[proton]

Last time I went to a school in Klong Toey Bkk several teachers were walking around with sticks for crowd control. Some of the kids deserved a whack.

[2long]

20 hours ago, Confuscious said:

99,99% of the Thai teachers fit that description.

Do you know this for a fact?

Only one in 10,000 teachers isn't a sadistic bully? WOW

[Kinok Farang]

Kids are notorious liars.A few more need to be clipped around the lug holes more often.

It never did me any harm and i've only ever been to prison twice in my life.

[Confuscious]

6 hours ago, 2long said:

Do you know this for a fact?

Only one in 10,000 teachers isn't a sadistic bully? WOW

It's engrained in the Thai culture.

From Kindergarten to the coffin, Thai people are learnt to show respect for their superiors.

I have seen Thai children crawling over the floor like cockroaches to five their sheet to the teacher. And keep all times their head down. In the TV news you can see much older people doing the same. That's Thai culture. 

I have seen children attend every week monks preaching at the school grounds and at the end give the monks a little plastic bag with a bottle of water and some fruit or food. From their pocket money. Show respect to the monks. 

Open your eyes and stop fooling yourself. That is Thailand.

[Confuscious]

23 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Agreed... Its like the 'netizen outrage' comments... when we only read of the issue while its reported that there is outrage at the same time...    the media is 'trying to generate the outrage' rather than factually reporting on it. 

 

 

Don't forget that the OP is written by AI to make it more dramatic as it is.

[Kinok Farang]

23 hours ago, NativeBob said:

What nationality was he?

Hanged if i know,sorry.

[toho]

9 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Violence teaches the children that violence works, and they then use it in their own relationships as adults, with their girlfriends, boyfriends and wives. And using weapons here in school to hit the children also teaches them to be cowards and use weapons when they fight, as we see almost daily on the news and which happens more that we don't see. Children get spoiled when you give them rewards for bad behavior, let them stay 24/7 on their phones, and when they do wrong, they are still allowed to live on those phones. Anyone that teaches violence as an answer is a disturbed, violent individual, and we need less of these people, especially as parents and teachers. Being lazy and not talking to the children leads some to use violence as an answer, and breeds more of the same.

Times and opinions change.

Agree that violence can lead to violence.

Daily movies on tv or internet, full of violence, it surely has impact, but most people still know how to behave. But there is a difference between violence and a soft! physical correction, which works like a shock therapy. The risk of being punished, in case of crossing boundaries, can be enough warning.

 

In Europe we have had a significant influx of people from other countries, bringing their own culture. Some of the 2nd and 3rd generation do not behave and show a lot of disrespect towards others. In the countries, where theiir parents came from, the police will use violence, so people behave.

In Europe several youngsters swear at police officers, threaten people in the street.

I would not object that this riff raff is confronted with real violence from the police.

The ones who do not like to listen have to feel.

 

Edited November 10 by toho
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[ModdaPunk]

On 11/8/2024 at 11:48 AM, snoop1130 said:

Pattaya City is in uproar

 

Fake news.

[GoodieAfterDark]

I am sure his IQ is up now. 

[JeffersLos]

On 11/9/2024 at 6:16 AM, mushroomdave said:

How can he still be working?

 

He threatened to beat up the director.

[2long]

On 11/10/2024 at 2:18 PM, Confuscious said:

It's engrained in the Thai culture.

From Kindergarten to the coffin, Thai people are learnt to show respect for their superiors.

I have seen Thai children crawling over the floor like cockroaches to five their sheet to the teacher. And keep all times their head down. In the TV news you can see much older people doing the same. That's Thai culture. 

I have seen children attend every week monks preaching at the school grounds and at the end give the monks a little plastic bag with a bottle of water and some fruit or food. From their pocket money. Show respect to the monks. 

Open your eyes and stop fooling yourself. That is Thailand.

While I agree with you that the system is terribly flawed, when you say things like 99.99% it would suggest you have evidence or hard facts. 

You don't need to answer.