Lacessit Posted November 12 Posted November 12 38 minutes ago, roquefort said: There are plenty of scientists who disagree with the consensus view on climate change. Are you saying that non-scientists cannot make a judgement on which group they choose to believe? 95% of scientists accept climate change is real. Your definition of "plenty" differs considerably from mine. There are facts, and there is belief. Making a judgment on the basis of belief in preference to facts is as daft as it gets.
pattayasan Posted November 12 Posted November 12 4 minutes ago, Lacessit said: 95% of scientists accept climate change is real. Your definition of "plenty" differs considerably from mine. There are facts, and there is belief. Making a judgment on the basis of belief in preference to facts is as daft as it gets. 100% of the scientists who deny climate change are paid to say so by fossil fuel companies. 1
Lacessit Posted November 12 Posted November 12 30 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said: I have always been reminded the sentiment expressed in a letter to his mother, written by Richard Smalley, anytime I hear students complain that the Social Sciences might be difficult. Social Science is easy. The Natural Sciences are truly hard. (Also, much of Social Science is just, basically.....JUNK SCIENCE.) Try taking a few grad courses at MIT Physics or Biochemistry if you think otherwise. Most Social Scientists are nitwits...and....they even ENJOY being nitwits..... This is why they chose Social Sciences in the first place...maybe..... I can remember an Arts major becoming mightily offended when I said it did not matter what was submitted in examinations in his field, as long as it looked pretty. But then, I have never been regarded as tactful. 1
roquefort Posted November 12 Posted November 12 29 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said: No. In fact, there are very few. If you insist otherwise, then please list a few. Thank you. https://clintel.org/world-climate-declaration/ 1,960 is more than a few.
Lacessit Posted November 12 Posted November 12 7 minutes ago, pattayasan said: 100% of the scientists who deny climate change are paid to say so by fossil fuel companies. There are prostitutes in most professions. 1 1
Lacessit Posted November 12 Posted November 12 3 minutes ago, roquefort said: https://clintel.org/world-climate-declaration/ 1,960 is more than a few. The number of full time scientists in the world is estimated to be approximately 8.8 million.1960 is piddling in comparison. I'm not one of them, I'm retired. I don't get paid anything for my views. I suspect if the link you provided was investigated, the financial backing would be coming from the fossil fuel industry. They probably think Trump's price of $1 billion in return for freedom to drill anywhere in the US is an absolute bargain. It's a desperate rearguard action. Your link contains the usual look over there and whataboutism. CO2 is plant food, it's a natural cycle, it's the volcanoes, etc. Insurance companies are hard-nosed assessors of risk. Every insurance company on the planet is scrambling to price in the effects of climate change, so they won't go broke paying out property insurance claims. Pro tip: Don't buy real estate in Florida or California. Global warming and climate change are perfect examples of the laws of thermodynamics in operation. In any scientific curriculum, thermodynamics is one of the toughest subjects that can be found. Organic chemistry is simple in comparison. Unless one understands those laws, they are operating from a base of ignorance in any discussion. 1
0ffshore360 Posted November 12 Posted November 12 11 hours ago, Hanaguma said: They are all both richer and smarter than any poster on AN. Both? Two ? Who did you disqualify from existence ?
GammaGlobulin Posted November 12 Author Posted November 12 1 hour ago, roquefort said: https://clintel.org/world-climate-declaration/ 1,960 is more than a few. On your list is.... He's a nitwit....in the pocket of CATO Institute.... I am sure you know of the KOOKY Brothers....right? https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-kochs-vs-cato
GammaGlobulin Posted November 12 Author Posted November 12 1 hour ago, Lacessit said: There are prostitutes in most professions. Yes, but prostitutes in the fields of the Natural Sciences often have less need to protect themselves, using condoms, from STDs, as those in one of the old professions of them all, Astronomy and the field of Laying Flat.
Lacessit Posted November 12 Posted November 12 18 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said: Yes, but prostitutes in the fields of the Natural Sciences often have less need to protect themselves, using condoms, from STDs, as those in one of the old professions of them all, Astronomy and the field of Laying Flat. Help please, I need a translator.
roquefort Posted November 12 Posted November 12 2 hours ago, Lacessit said: I suspect if the link you provided was investigated, the financial backing would be coming from the fossil fuel industry. They probably think Trump's price of $1 billion in return for freedom to drill anywhere in the US is an absolute bargain. It's a desperate rearguard action. That argument works both ways. The financial backing for the scientists you believe in comes from where? Mostly from governments, to promote their Net Zero narrative. Do you think they're going to risk having the money taps turned off by producing research that goes against the narrative? If the pandemic taught us anything it's that at least 50% of published scientific research is not worth the paper it's written on. 1
Lacessit Posted November 12 Posted November 12 20 minutes ago, roquefort said: That argument works both ways. The financial backing for the scientists you believe in comes from where? Mostly from governments, to promote their Net Zero narrative. Do you think they're going to risk having the money taps turned off by producing research that goes against the narrative? If the pandemic taught us anything it's that at least 50% of published scientific research is not worth the paper it's written on. So now you are wheeling out the character assassination. As I said before, no-one pays me for the facts I post. Remember what I said about the arrogance and stupidity of non-scientists? Bye now, I have wasted enough of my time on you. 1 1
roquefort Posted November 12 Posted November 12 1 hour ago, Lacessit said: As I said before, no-one pays me for the facts I post. You haven't posted any facts, just your opinions. Bye now. 1
GammaGlobulin Posted November 12 Author Posted November 12 2 hours ago, Lacessit said: Help please, I need a translator. Not surprised. You are just not completely...IN TUNE....with my thinking..... Yet. Soon, you will be enlightened..... IF you keep on reading.... GAMMA And, if you just.... Keep on KEEPING ON.... Which.... I hope you DO..... Keep on Keeping on...Sir....!!!!!!!!!!!!1 This is the best and only thing that we can do...as we age.... Although....it becomes less easy....as we continue to age.... WHICH....is something...one must admit....that is entirely unavoidable..... Keep on KEEPING ON....Sir!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The more I age.... The more I just... Can't get enough of this guy... LOVE is just NOT a strong enough word...for... How I feel about.... The GREAT MAYFIELD..... 1
thaibeachlovers Posted November 12 Posted November 12 On 11/11/2024 at 7:32 PM, GammaGlobulin said: And you? Not at all. In fact, till he teamed up with Trump, my opinion of Musk was that he should send a rocket ship on a one way trip to Mars ASAP and be on it. I'll suspend my desire to see him gone till I see how he does as a Trump employee. 1 1
thaibeachlovers Posted November 12 Posted November 12 7 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said: Yes, but prostitutes in the fields of the Natural Sciences often have less need to protect themselves, using condoms, from STDs, as those in one of the old professions of them all, Astronomy and the field of Laying Flat. I don't know if you intentionally used something that almost no one will get, but I do happen to know. It's amazing what little bits of information I hoovered up in my life actually have an opportunity to finally be of some use. Bit like the piece of wood I've been hoarding for 30 years finally got used for something.
thaibeachlovers Posted November 12 Posted November 12 8 hours ago, 0ffshore360 said: Both? Two ? Who did you disqualify from existence ? Comprehension problem? It makes perfect sense, but obviously not to you. 1
thaibeachlovers Posted November 12 Posted November 12 9 hours ago, pattayasan said: 100% of the scientists who deny climate change are paid to say so by fossil fuel companies. and 100% of the scientists that support the MMCC BS are paid to do so by EV makers and windmill companies.
pattayasan Posted November 12 Posted November 12 1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said: and 100% of the scientists that support the MMCC BS are paid to do so by EV makers and windmill companies. I offered to prove my allegation, can you prove yours? 1
thaibeachlovers Posted November 12 Posted November 12 14 minutes ago, pattayasan said: I offered to prove my allegation, can you prove yours? I treated it as a BS statement and responded in kind. To prove your allegation you'd have to find every scientist on the planet and ask them if they deny climate change, and then if they did if they were paid to do so by a fossil fuel company. That might prove somewhat difficult. That's the problem with throwing words like 100% out there and expecting everyone to believe it. Putting an IMO or similar in there would not provoke a reaction from me, but I'm not going to allow an obviously unprovable statement to go unchallenged.
pattayasan Posted November 12 Posted November 12 1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said: I treated it as a BS statement and responded in kind. To prove your allegation you'd have to find every scientist on the planet and ask them if they deny climate change, and then if they did if they were paid to do so by a fossil fuel company. That might prove somewhat difficult. That's the problem with throwing words like 100% out there and expecting everyone to believe it. Putting an IMO or similar in there would not provoke a reaction from me, but I'm not going to allow an obviously unprovable statement to go unchallenged. Duck and run for cover. You've been called out and now refuse to put up. 1 1
thaibeachlovers Posted November 12 Posted November 12 3 minutes ago, pattayasan said: Duck and run for cover. You've been called out and now refuse to put up. I have no idea what you are going on about. Duck from what and run? Why would I run? I haven't heard anyone calling me. Refuse to put up what? Your post is very confusing. 1
GammaGlobulin Posted November 12 Author Posted November 12 1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said: Bit like the piece of wood I've been hoarding for 30 years Are you also a hoarder, besides being a poster on TV?
pattayasan Posted November 12 Posted November 12 2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: I have no idea what you are going on about. Duck from what and run? Why would I run? I haven't heard anyone calling me. Refuse to put up what? Your post is very confusing. The confusion is your allegation that scientists who are climate change proponents are funded by windmill and solar companies. Link? 1
thaibeachlovers Posted November 12 Posted November 12 1 minute ago, GammaGlobulin said: Are you also a hoarder, besides being a poster on TV? I am and proud of it. My family on my mother's side are also hoarders. Like I say, sometimes things I've kept for 30 years come in useful.
Lacessit Posted November 13 Posted November 13 3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: and 100% of the scientists that support the MMCC BS are paid to do so by EV makers and windmill companies. No one pays me, I would like it if they did. Which invalidates your claim. I suspect there would be a number of retired scientists who agree with me. Another example of the arrogance and stupidity of people with no scientific qualifications. 1 1
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