DEI is dead! Let's celebrate the demise of that woke nonsense

[spidermike007]

As a Centrist Democrat I can say that nearly everything about woke culture is the lame and stupid. It's one of the reasons why we lost the election, nobody wants to hear it, and as a group we don't want to have to cater to 00.2% of the population.

 

Sorry but this homey don't play that game. Not PC at all. No thanks. Just say no to nonsense. 

[kingstonkid]

 

[Hawaiian]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

DEI is racist.

 

1. It prevents white people, male people, straight people getting certain jobs/university places etc. because of their skin colour.

2. It assumes that non white, non male, non straight people need special rules to enable them to get certain jobs/university places etc. because they are inferior. 

 

It manages to discriminate and condescend at the same time. 

 

I don't want someone leading my country, flying a plane I'm on, teaching my children etc. because of their immutable characteristics. I want them to do it because they are the best available person irrespective of colour, sex, sexual orientation etc. 

 

Trump will kill it off in the US and other countries will follow. Good riddance to leftie Woke nonsense and the race baiters/grifters who support it. . 

 

 

Couldn't have said it better.  I am of mixed ancestry I never asked for special consideration because of it. 

[jesimps]

9 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

“RIP DEI. This is what comes next.” In the wake of Trump’s election, the president of a DEI consulting firm said she’s decided to pull the plug, close up shop, shut it down.

Source: https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/rising-stars-wednesday-november-13

The CEO, Amber Cabral, began like this: “It may seem extreme to decide to close my company mere hours after an election result, but let me paint the picture for you.” The colors red and orange featured prominently in Amber’s verbal portrait.

“Since late Fall of 2022,” Amber explained, “my industry has been in a major decline.” In other words, things were already headed downhill even before Trump was re-elected. Corporate America was already shifting away from DEI, cutting teams, budgets, and most importantly, outside consultants. The optics were getting really bad. Amber noted that, “a lot of DEI practitioners either didn’t have support or flat-out did not know what they were doing.” (Thank you, Matt Walsh.)

Then a couple months ago, Amber’s corporate clients put all pending DEI training sessions on hold. When she asked them why, she got two answers. First, they wanted to wait till “after the election.” Second, they worried that conservative filmmaker Robby Starbuck start tweeting about their DEI activities.

And now that Trump is President, Amber expects those clients to “soon shift from postponed to canceled.”

She isn’t waiting for the body-positive lady to sing. Amber blames Americans who voted for Trump, who “don’t want to listen or be accountable or move through disconnection,” whatever that means. But she admitted that the DEI approach already wasn’t working. “The ‘let me drown you in the data so you feel guilty enough to change’ approach has been failing.”

Her sad conclusion: “It’s beyond time to put the current model to rest and with it, the clinical definitions, and the constant desire to describe and explain what our preferred diversity, equity, and inclusion acronym means and why it’s the right one. None of this is working.”

“I’m okay,” Amber rhetorically sobbed, grappling with her strong emotions, “with letting DEI rest in peace.”

RIP, DEI.

To be clear, the failure of Amber’s DEI-training business was not the good news. As a fellow entrepreneur, I sympathize with Amber, and would encourage her to move on to her next venture quickly. It will be even more successful, and probably a lot more productive, than the last one.

But if DEI consultancies are starting to close, if cowardly corporations are finally jettisoning the profoundly racist and counterproductive ideology in favor of getting back to basics, then we are even closer to winning than we thought.

= = =

She should move her business to the UK, DEI is thriving there.

[jesimps]

8 hours ago, Ben Zioner said:

Seems that there are many [retired] members here, who believe that one should not recruit the best candidate if she is a women or she/he belongs to a minority.

The problems occur when a mediocre candidate is hired BECAUSE of sex or race.

[roquefort]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

DEI is racist.

 

1. It prevents white people, male people, straight people getting certain jobs/university places etc. because of their skin colour.

2. It assumes that non white, non male, non straight people need special rules to enable them to get certain jobs/university places etc. because they are inferior. 

 

It manages to discriminate and condescend at the same time. 

 

I don't want someone leading my country, flying a plane I'm on, teaching my children etc. because of their immutable characteristics. I want them to do it because they are the best available person irrespective of colour, sex, sexual orientation etc. 

 

Trump will kill it off in the US and other countries will follow. Good riddance to leftie Woke nonsense and the race baiters/grifters who support it. . 

 

 

We've swung to the complete opposite of Martin Luther King's ideal - that a man (or woman) should be judged not by the colour of their skin but by the content of their character. We need to get back there urgently.

[flexomike]

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

As a Centrist Democrat I can say that nearly everything about woke culture is the lame and stupid. It's one of the reasons why we lost the election, nobody wants to hear it, and as a group we don't want to have to cater to 00.2% of the population.

 

Sorry but this homey don't play that game. Not PC at all. No thanks. Just say no to nonsense. 

Hey sometimes we can agree with each other

[OneMoreFarang]

3 hours ago, mogandave said:

It’s terrible, and you are right, it’s far from dead. 

 

But, the people are clearly against it now, and they don’t believe people on TV telling them how great it is. 

 

That someone has a PhD in nonsense from Harvard does not impress anyone but other hard leftists with PhDs in nonsense. 

 

Everyone else knows they are full of cr*p

Not exactly.

From what I see and read the top US universities are full of DEI administration. And the act accordingly. All these people won't just be fired. And who would fire them? The woke DEI firing other woke DEI? That won't happen.

 

From what I understand Harward and other graduates were highly looked after for many years because the fact that they were admitted to Harward meant that they have to be pretty good. That is not the case anymore. It seems the main criteria now is to be high on the DEI score like a trans lesbian mixed black and native something.

Obviously some DEI HR departments will hire those people after they graduate. But others, like i.e. Musk want qualified people.

 

 

[mogandave]

3 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Not exactly.

From what I see and read the top US universities are full of DEI administration. And the act accordingly. All these people won't just be fired. And who would fire them? The woke DEI firing other woke DEI? That won't happen.

 

From what I understand Harward and other graduates were highly looked after for many years because the fact that they were admitted to Harward meant that they have to be pretty good. That is not the case anymore. It seems the main criteria now is to be high on the DEI score like a trans lesbian mixed black and native something.

Obviously some DEI HR departments will hire those people after they graduate. But others, like i.e. Musk want qualified people.

 

 

Ivy league diplomas are generally less valuable each year. They used to be a license to print money, but it is getting where outside of academia, they are becoming less relevant. 

 

Applications to Harvard were down I think about 10% this year. 

 

The government has been propping private universities up with student loans and tax exemptions which needs to stop. 

 

If they start to lose money, the DEI nonsense will stop. 

 

 

[pattayasan]

DEI is not dead. The single reason it was created as a policy was to prevent employers from being sued. That hasn't gone away not matter what the misogynists and racists would wish for.,

[Gottfrid]

15 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

“Since late Fall of 2022,” Amber explained, “my industry has been in a major decline.” In other words, things were already headed downhill even before Trump was re-elected.

So, the reason for closing is just bad business then?

[nattaya09]

9 hours ago, soalbundy said:

Not if they are from Boeing.

 

To their credit, Boeing dismantled it's DEI department last month before the planes started falling out of the sky or crashing into mountains

[Dan O]

12 hours ago, tai4de2 said:

 

Really? Quote someone saying that so I can condemn that person loudly. (In case it wasn't clear, I think no one here is actually saying that, and you are making it up.)

 

For the record: one *should* recruit the best candidate, including women and minorities.

Nope it was one of the trumpettes on another post maki g those claims about women and politics

[BruceWayne]

52 minutes ago, nattaya09 said:

 

To their credit, Boeing dismantled it's DEI department last month before the planes started falling out of the sky or crashing into mountains

 

That reminds me 😂

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by BruceWayne

[Patong2021]

1 hour ago, nattaya09 said:

 

To their credit, Boeing dismantled it's DEI department last month before the planes started falling out of the sky or crashing into mountains

 

Not so fast. Boeing will retain its DEI initiatives.  The DEI department was reduced as part of overall cost containment actions at a company in deep financial crisis. The responsibility for DEI is now incorporated in HR activities as opposed to being a stand alone silo.

Boeing remains committed to creating a culture of inclusion that attracts and retains the world’s top talent, and inspires every teammate to do their best work and grow their careers.

 

DEI is neither dead nor suspended. It continues. Younger people both expect and demand it. The initial intent of DEI was to ensure that a workplace reflected the local population diversity and was to ensure that competent skilled workers could be recruited and retained.  Those goals are still  worthwhile. In some companies, there has been an intentional sabotage of the efforts by a vested group of people. There have also been multiple incidents of absolute idiocy by DEI managers who were not properly supervised. The weakness of the DEI in some companies is that the wrong people were hired, in part because the position was not taken seriously. If done right it can make a workplace a better. Unfortunately, DEI is often just for show and provides little benefit to the people it is supposed to help. However, some companies have used their DEI initiatives to attract even better quality people, e.g. Amazon, Intel, Apple, Microsoft, Alphabet, Adidas, Nike, Banks,

[BruceWayne]

7 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

Boeing will retain its DEI initiatives. 

 

And how's that working out for them?:

 

 

 

[blaze master]

6 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

Not so fast. Boeing will retain its DEI initiatives.  The DEI department was reduced as part of overall cost containment actions at a company in deep financial crisis. The responsibility for DEI is now incorporated in HR activities as opposed to being a stand alone silo.

Boeing remains committed to creating a culture of inclusion that attracts and retains the world’s top talent, and inspires every teammate to do their best work and grow their careers.

 

DEI is neither dead nor suspended. It continues. Younger people both expect and demand it. The initial intent of DEI was to ensure that a workplace reflected the local population diversity and was to ensure that competent skilled workers could be recruited and retained.  Those goals are still  worthwhile. In some companies, there has been an intentional sabotage of the efforts by a vested group of people. There have also been multiple incidents of absolute idiocy by DEI managers who were not properly supervised. The weakness of the DEI in some companies is that the wrong people were hired, in part because the position was not taken seriously. If done right it can make a workplace a better. Unfortunately, DEI is often just for show and provides little benefit to the people it is supposed to help. However, some companies have used their DEI initiatives to attract even better quality people, e.g. Amazon, Intel, Apple, Microsoft, Alphabet, Adidas, Nike, Banks,

 

I applied for a job a few months ago that implicitly stated that minorities etc would be given priority for the hiring process. Totally discriminatory.

 

Or I was in my local bank a year back and noticed a sign behind the teller that said

 

Black entrepreneur loans available. Don't think I need to mention how racist that is do I ?

[honcho]

18 hours ago, pattayasan said:

 

Complete rubbish. DEI is found in all western nations.

sure, but the sane hate it! its marxist rubbish and will die in other western countries too!!!