The major backers of "populist" trump

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, mdr224 said:

Ah. Silver and gold. The thing that bitcoin can do better and thus why it is so very obviously outperforming it

Only because it is a Ponzi scheme.

 

Crypto is like a religion, belief in something that can't be seen. Outside a computer screen, it's nothing.

 

Gold and silver are real. They have industrial applications. The computer screen or smartphone you look at to track bitcoin contains gold and silver, as does 99% of them worldwide.

 

Governments don't like fungibles beyond their control. Why do you think the US government banned Americans from owning gold bullion for 40 years?

[transam]

2 minutes ago, jippytum said:

Funny how Trump backers are making news after the election. 

Pre election the media attention was on the Dems celebrity backers hundreds of them. 

Lot of good that did Harris. 

 Trump backs the money men. So what? 

Does he, I thought Musk was being sidelined, given a nothing job for a short period.............

[Hummin]

9 minutes ago, mdr224 said:

As bitcoin continues to succeed, banks will become less reliable. People will prefer to trust their money to themselves. Its already happening

Careful what you wish for.

 

Your statement is just a naiv hope with serious consequences you do not fully understand, the other is just pure speculations and hopefully predictions by people who promote the real hoax. 

 

BTC will never be government backed! 

[mdr224]

2 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Only because it is a Ponzi scheme.

 

Crypto is like a religion, belief in something that can't be seen. Outside a computer screen, it's nothing.

 

Gold and silver are real. They have industrial applications. The computer screen or smartphone you look at to track bitcoin contains gold and silver, as does 99% of them worldwide.

 

Governments don't like fungibles beyond their control. Why do you think the US government banned Americans from owning gold bullion for 40 years?

 

Just now, Hummin said:

Careful what you wish for.

 

Your statement is just a naiv hope with serious consequences you do not fully understand, the other is just pure speculations and hopefully predictions by people who promote the real hoax. 

 

BTC will never be government backed! 

For as much as you both hate trump, you think all of a sudden hes going to do what you two think is the best thing? You lefties have been wrong about everything. Trump is going to do whats best for America

[Hummin]

1 minute ago, mdr224 said:

 

For as much as you both hate trump, you think all of a sudden hes going to do what you two think is the best thing? You lefties have been wrong about everything. Trump is going to do whats best for America

Do not need to leftish to understand Trump and BTC is both a hoax

[mdr224]

Just now, Hummin said:

Do not need to leftish to understand Trump and BTC is both a hoax

And yet, its real and you cant escape from it

[transam]

1 minute ago, mdr224 said:

 

For as much as you both hate trump, you think all of a sudden hes going to do what you two think is the best thing? You lefties have been wrong about everything. Trump is going to do whats best for America

Why do you Trumpties always use the word "hate"......I find that strange, after all Biden & Trump have just had a fun day together, they don't hate, only the numpties seem to think like that...Strange..🤔

[mdr224]

Just now, transam said:

Why do you Trumpties always use the word "hate"......I find that strange, after all Biden & Trump have just had a fun day together, they don't hate, only the numpties seem to think like that...Strange..🤔

Anti americans hate trump. All manufactured by media. Bizarre.

[Dan747]

[transam]

8 minutes ago, mdr224 said:

Anti americans hate trump. All manufactured by media. Bizarre.

🤣..........Yeh, riiiiiiiiiiight..........And also, the blind will never see...........😉

 

That "hate" word again, how strange.............

[radiochaser]

Who did they back this election?   Was it, ka ma la, ka ma la??

 

Updated May 6, 2020, 09:22am EDT

 

 

Forty-four billionaires and their spouses have donated to Joe Biden’s presidential campaign, according to a review of the latest federal filings, making the former vice president one of the biggest billionaire beneficiaries of the 2020 field.

 

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michelatindera/2019/12/07/here-are-the-billionaires-backing-joe-bidens-presidential-campaign/

[radiochaser]

34 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Only because it is a Ponzi scheme.

 

Crypto is like a religion, belief in something that can't be seen. Outside a computer screen, it's nothing.

 

Gold and silver are real. They have industrial applications. The computer screen or smartphone you look at to track bitcoin contains gold and silver, as does 99% of them worldwide.

 

Governments don't like fungibles beyond their control. Why do you think the US government banned Americans from owning gold bullion for 40 years?

I have some bitcoin someplace.  It was given to me in Bangkok some years ago when I had an iphone 4 (gives an idea how long ago).   I was given $5.00.   Within a years time it went up to $20.00 then down to about $15.00.  

 

Then I lost the password to access the wallet (I think that was what it was).   I'm not sure where the iphone 4 is either.   It's around the house someplace.

 

I wonder how much that bitcoin is now?   

 

[radiochaser]

3 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

You got that right about BTC being an illusion.  At least many major currencies have some form of backup, however, the questionable the backup.

If the internet goes down how accessible will BTC be?

I wonder about the U.S. dollar.  I read today that 80% of the printed U.S. dollar, has been printed since 2020!!!

[Lacessit]

6 minutes ago, radiochaser said:

I have some bitcoin someplace.  It was given to me in Bangkok some years ago when I had an iphone 4 (gives an idea how long ago).   I was given $5.00.   Within a years time it went up to $20.00 then down to about $15.00.  

 

Then I lost the password to access the wallet (I think that was what it was).   I'm not sure where the iphone 4 is either.   It's around the house someplace.

 

I wonder how much that bitcoin is now?   

 

IIRC when bitcoin started, they were worth about 10 cents. As more were mined, the scarcity value of what was left increased. There may be also a cost factor, they are gluttons for electrical energy.

 

I know enough about them to realize I would get burnt if I ventured into that market.

 

I've never lost money on gold, silver and platinum. I stick with what I know.

[radiochaser]

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

IIRC when bitcoin started, they were worth about 10 cents. As more were mined, the scarcity value of what was left increased. There may be also a cost factor, they are gluttons for electrical energy.

 

I know enough about them to realize I would get burnt if I ventured into that market.

 

I've never lost money on gold, silver and platinum. I stick with what I know.

You sound like my wife.   Sticking with gold at least and diamonds.   She has a thing about diamonds.    But mostly gold. 

[Srikcir]

4 hours ago, Yagoda said:

true Leftist propagandist

Leftist realist. Right wing propagandists can't face truth because fear of the unknown disappears.

[AgMech Cowboy]

I don't know, but what do you think the billionaires supporting Komala were expecting in pay back for their support.?

[jaywalker2]

48 minutes ago, AgMech Cowboy said:

I don't know, but what do you think the billionaires supporting Komala were expecting in pay back for their support.?

What they were already getting. They didn't want any major changes to the status quo. And most importantly, they didn't want Trump, a wild card that they couldn't control.

[Hummin]

7 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Not me, I'm already old and probably don't have another four years.

I heard the same 4 years ago, and here you are 😁 

[BritManToo]

4 minutes ago, Hummin said:

I heard the same 4 years ago, and here you are 😁 

That hit and run almost did for me last year.

[herfiehandbag]

8 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Naw, we are winners.

 

You are the loser. Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooser.

A convincing argument!

[ModdaPunk]

10 hours ago, jaywalker2 said:

Politically, Trump is a creature of the billionaire class. His major backers are  billionaire technocrats (Musk, Peter Thiel), Israeli supporters (Madeline Adelson), old money (Peter Mellon), and Paypal exec David Sacks -- all of whom have extensive ties with the "Deep State," the military, the financial class. What do you think these people want for their money?

 

 

 

How about you get to the point ?

[herfiehandbag]

5 hours ago, Dan747 said:

Is it just me, or has he lost some 60 kilos and 40 years in this illustration?

[Yagoda]

10 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

A convincing argument!

Thanks.

[simple1]

10 hours ago, jaywalker2 said:

Politically, Trump is a creature of the billionaire class. His major backers are  billionaire technocrats (Musk, Peter Thiel), Israeli supporters (Madeline Adelson), old money (Peter Mellon), and Paypal exec David Sacks -- all of whom have extensive ties with the "Deep State," the military, the financial class. What do you think these people want for their money?

 

snipped for brevity. As you know trump clearly called for bribes in return for which he would provide extra support for the mega donors industries e.g. one billion dollars from oil industry execs. Just shows how corrupt politics is in the US and no doubt elsewhere.

[jaywalker2]

2 hours ago, ModdaPunk said:

 

How about you get to the point ?

He's not a populist and he doesn't care about the working man. In a way, he's like Thaksin, a rich elite who sets himself up as an alternative to the existing power structure by appealing to the working class. The people backing him are also outside that structure. They're using Trump to achieve their own agendas, which looks to be a neo-conservative libertarian society with few restrictions on their activities.

[ModdaPunk]

6 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

He's not a populist and he doesn't care about the working man. In a way, he's like Thaksin, a rich elite who sets himself up as an alternative to the existing power structure by appealing to the working class. The people backing him are also outside that structure. They're using Trump to achieve their own agendas, which looks to be a neo-conservative libertarian society with few restrictions on their activities.

 

I agree.

But Dems are even worse.

[jaywalker2]

An interesting book, by the way, with an insightful explanation of what is occuring in the political sphere right now is "Elites, Counter-Elites, and the Path to Political Disintegration" by Peter Turchin.

 

"The lessons of world history are clear, Turchin argues: When the equilibrium between ruling elites and the majority tips too far in favor of elites, political instability is all but inevitable. As income inequality surges and prosperity flows disproportionately into the hands of the elites, the common people suffer, and society-wide efforts to become an elite grow ever more frenzied. He calls this process the wealth pump; it’s a world of the damned and the saved. And since the number of such positions remains relatively fixed, the overproduction of elites inevitably leads to frustrated elite aspirants, who harness popular resentment to turn against the established order."

[save the frogs]

17 hours ago, jaywalker2 said:

It means, loosening whatever restrictions remain on the rich elite controlling society. If "the people" happen to benefit from their policies but it will be accidental not intentional. These guys see the lower classes as serfs to do their bidding.

Here, watch this.

Maybe it will soothe your paranoia about Musk and company. 

 

 

[Jingthing]

19 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Cant have puppet masters without the obligatory Jew

Bizarre comment. Tells us about you.