Donald Trump Jr. Alleges Biden’s Actions Could Trigger World War III Before Trump’s Return

[thaipo7]

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Biden trying to inflame the situation before he leaves so he can claim trump caused WW3.

 

No less than I'd expect from such a nasty piece of work. Good riddance. What a disaster he turned out to be. 

Correct in capital letters.  Biden needs something to be remembered.  He does not care what it is.

[GammaGlobulin]

1 hour ago, Patong2021 said:

Donny is entitled to his opinion, just like any other US national. The bigger issue though is how this  individual has any position with which to push his opinions. The man is not duly elected by anyone, nor has he been appointed to any government position and been subject to congressional scrutiny. And yet, here he is with access to confidential information offering his  opinions as if he has some sort of official role on behalf of the USA.

 

In what screwed up dictatorship world does a father have unqualified family members given the authority or position to do such things? If the man wishes to speak on behalf of the US government, fine, then let him be vetted by the appropriate authority.

 

Yes.

I agree.

He reminds me just too much of....

Hillary Clinton when she was in the White House.

 

 

[pattayasan]

1 hour ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

Actually....

 

NOT dumb....at all.

 

Noam has been saying, fundamentally, the same thing....

For years.

 

If you do not understand, then ....

How can you NOT understand?

 

It's all about probability.

You HAVE had at least one year of advanced uni statistics....

Have you not?

 

 

 

Probably better to explain it than attack somebody for not understanding.

[Woke to Sounds of Horking]

I care not who sits in the president's chair at la maison-blanche nor who sups at its dinner table or reclines in the beds.  I care not who sends what missiles to whom.  All I knows is that war is money and bizness is good, and my investment portfolio is ticking upwards nicely amidst all this WW3 talk. Let's keep it up folks.

[JonnyF]

2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Don Trump Jr for Prez 2028?

 

 

Too soon.

 

More likely after 8 years of JD Vance. 

 

The GOP have plenty of young talent. The future's bright, the future's orange.

[Stargeezr]

Why should we listen at all to Trump Junior, I do not like even hearing Trump senior talk.

[transam]

7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Let's be clear. Kursk is not the "front line" which is far to the east. Kursk is Russian territory, and any Nth Korean soldiers there are not fighting in Ukraine.

 

Kursk is a side show that failed to divert Russians from the real war, and will end with a lot of dead and captured Ukrainians.

Let's be clear, you are a Putin supporter............🤔

[Presto]

Donald Trump Jr. 😳

Not the dumbest of Trump's sons, but close.

[herfiehandbag]

I initially missed the "Jr", bit, and thought it was probably more <deleted> but really should read it, if only because of who was spouting it. I then realised that it was Donald Trump Jr, and gave up because it was inconsequential <deleted>.

 

Let's face it, when Daddy finally ingests his last cheeseburger and expires he will leave them nothing anyway...

Edited Tuesday at 05:47 AM by herfiehandbag

[dinsdale]

47 minutes ago, transam said:

Let's be clear, you are a Putin supporter............🤔

Ridiculous comment. So anyone who comments on the situation and says that Russia is winning is a Putin supporter. It's nothing to do with supporting one side or the other. It's the fact's happening on the ground. Since 2022 Russia has taken>100,000km². This is simply a fact. Go look at some war maps. Saying that the ATACMS will have little affect on how the war's progressing has nothing to do with being a Putin supporter. It's a fact.

 

Edited Tuesday at 06:11 AM by dinsdale

[transam]

4 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Ridiculous comment. So anyone who comments on the situation and says that Russia is winning is a Putin supporter. Nothing to do with supporting one side or the other. It's the fact's happening on the ground. Russia has taken more than 100,000km²

One who "always" comments in the Russian's favour, in my opinion, is treated as a traitor.

Russia has lost so MANY lives, doing it is 1940's stuff, but Putin doesn't care about that stuff, eh...😉

[dinsdale]

2 minutes ago, transam said:

One who "always" comments in the Russian's favour, in my opinion, is treated as a traitor.

Russia has lost so MANY lives, doing it is 1940's stuff, but Putin doesn't care about that stuff, eh...😉

Another stupid comment. Saying the war is going Putin's way in your tiny brained opinion means the person saying this must be a Putin supporter. Completely deranged way to look at things. Huge casualties are been taken on both sides. Fact. Russia is winning the protracted attritional war evidenced by ground captured. Fact. Russia has more troops than Ukraine. Fact. ATACMS will make little difference. Fact. What part of this comment suggests any support for one side or the other?

[transam]

14 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Another stupid comment. Saying the war is going Putin's way in your tiny brained opinion means the person saying this must be a Putin supporter. Completely deranged way to look at things. Huge casualties are been taken on both sides. Fact. Russia is winning the protracted attritional war evidenced by ground captured. Fact. Russia has more troops than Ukraine. Fact. ATACMS will make little difference. Fact. What part of this comment suggests any support for one side or the other?

😂.............You carry on, you could get a gift hammer and sickle flag from your hero.........😂

[Presto]

27 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Ridiculous comment. So anyone who comments on the situation and says that Russia is winning is a Putin supporter. It's nothing to do with supporting one side or the other. It's the fact's happening on the ground. Since 2022 Russia has taken>100,000km². This is simply a fact. Go look at some war maps. Saying that the ATACMS will have little affect on how the war's progressing has nothing to do with being a Putin supporter. It's a fact.

 

A gain of a 100.000 km2 in over two and a half years. I'm not sure that's correct. In the Donbas region the gain is having pushed the line about 30 kms to the West. That's not really impressive, is it. And please take into account the region of Kursk, lost to the Ukrainians.

And consider the 100.000 to 200.000 Russian soldiers lost, the thousands of tanks and artillery pieces, the Black Sea naval fleet decimated, etc etc. North Korean soldiers needed. And for what. In over two and a half years.

 

Not exactly impressive. More a sign of the rampant corruption and incompetence in the Russian army.

 

That doesn't mean they can't win of course. And, win what? What was the goal?

[RuamRudy]

I am not sure that I would trust Donny Jr's take on geopolitics. Granted, he is quite probably an expert on Colombian affairs but I am doubtful that his knowledge of extends much wider. 

[dinsdale]

Just now, Presto said:

A gain of a 100.000 km2 in over two and a half years. I'm not sure that's correct. In the Donbas region the gain is having pushed the line about 30 kms to the West. That's not really impressive, is it. And please take into account the region of Kursk, lost to the Ukrainians.

And consider the 100.000 to 200.000 Russian soldiers lost, the thousands of tanks and artillery pieces, the Black Sea naval fleet decimated, etc etc. North Korean soldiers needed. And for what. In over two and a half years.

 

Not exactly impressive. More a sign of the rampant corruption and incompetence in the Russian army.

 

That doesn't mean they can't win of course. And, win what? What was the goal?

I did say greater than. It's more like 111,000km². Go look at some war maps. This is now a war of often metres taken and metres lost now. The greatest gains from Russian came from their initial push 2022. The 110,000 doesn't include Crimea. The Black sea naval fleet wasn't decimated, sure their were some very high value assets sunk, but the reality is they moved the fleet. They had to because of the sea drones. Very effective weapons. North Korean soldiers needed? Don't think so. There's only an estimated 10k of them. As for troop losses as I have said it's a protracted war of attrition and the numbers are on Putin's side. This is just a fact. As for the Kursk Oblast Ukraine occupies around 500km² but there too there is ebb and flow of territory held by one side or the other.

[pattayasan]

1 minute ago, dinsdale said:

I did say greater than. It's more like 111,000km². Go look at some war maps. This is now a war of often metres taken and metres lost now. The greatest gains from Russian came from their initial push 2022. The 110,000 doesn't include Crimea. The Black sea naval fleet wasn't decimated, sure their were some very high value assets sunk, but the reality is they moved the fleet. They had to because of the sea drones. Very effective weapons. North Korean soldiers needed? Don't think so. There's only an estimated 10k of them. As for troop losses as I have said it's a protracted war of attrition and the numbers are on Putin's side. This is just a fact. As for the Kursk Oblast Ukraine occupies around 500km² but there too there is ebb and flow of territory held by one side or the other.

 

Nope, it's not and never was about metres. It's about tens of thousands of civilians slaughtered by the war criminal Putin. Stop trivializing the war.

[Hummin]

The whole problem with this war is the west is afraid of making the russians angry, 

 

Det blockade doesn't work

The Ukraines are not allowed to repay Russia with the same violence the Russians execute in Ukraine, where they are restricted to minor revenge attacks given green light by the westerns who give them weapons. 

 

I tend to agree this war should never have started, knowing Putin and russias will to continue this war if you look back on other wars they had, or intervened like in Georgia. So many lives could have been spared for å little piece of land, and a bit of structural changes in the Ukraine government, but at once they said a, b was a long delay, and also c d and the whole alphabet which was necessary to win this war from the beginning. But again, Ukraine is still Ukraine, with many internal issues, and there are no good solutions here at all. Now we have to wait for Donald to make a few phone calls, and agree with the bad timing of first giving the green light for missiles now, and not before. 

 

<deleted> chess with to many players,

Edited Tuesday at 07:00 AM by Hummin

[transam]

2 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

I did say greater than. It's more like 111,000km². Go look at some war maps. This is now a war of often metres taken and metres lost now. The greatest gains from Russian came from their initial push 2022. The 110,000 doesn't include Crimea. The Black sea naval fleet wasn't decimated, sure their were some very high value assets sunk, but the reality is they moved the fleet. They had to because of the sea drones. Very effective weapons. North Korean soldiers needed? Don't think so. There's only an estimated 10k of them. As for troop losses as I have said it's a protracted war of attrition and the numbers are on Putin's side. This is just a fact. As for the Kursk Oblast Ukraine occupies around 500km² but there too there is ebb and flow of territory held by one side or the other.

Can you tell us Russian/Korean loss of life and hospitalised numbers too......?  🤕

[Presto]

10 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

I did say greater than. It's more like 111,000km². Go look at some war maps. This is now a war of often metres taken and metres lost now. The greatest gains from Russian came from their initial push 2022. The 110,000 doesn't include Crimea. The Black sea naval fleet wasn't decimated, sure their were some very high value assets sunk, but the reality is they moved the fleet. They had to because of the sea drones. Very effective weapons. North Korean soldiers needed? Don't think so. There's only an estimated 10k of them. As for troop losses as I have said it's a protracted war of attrition and the numbers are on Putin's side. This is just a fact. As for the Kursk Oblast Ukraine occupies around 500km² but there too there is ebb and flow of territory held by one side or the other.

Ok, a war of attrition. A very long war of attrition. I get that, I got it already.

The whole Donbas region is about 53.000 km2. So your arithmetic seems to be way off. Don't include Crimes, don't include the Donbas as illegally occupied since 2014. Only the gains since February 2022.

Not that it matters.

 

My question again: for what? 

If you don't know the answer, please let us know.

Edited Tuesday at 07:07 AM by Presto

[dinsdale]

7 minutes ago, pattayasan said:

 

Nope, it's not and never was about metres. It's about tens of thousands of civilians slaughtered by the war criminal Putin. Stop trivializing the war.

Who's trivializing war. As I have repeatedly said this is a protracted war of attrition. Civilians are being killed as are troops. This happens in wars like it or not. What you continue to avoid is that all these lives lost could have been spared. It was obvious what Putin was up to in 2022 and there's no way the US did not know. 

[pattayasan]

Just now, dinsdale said:

Who's trivializing war. As I have repeatedly said this is a protracted war of attrition. Civilians are being killed as are troops. This happens in wars like it or not. What you continue to avoid is that all these lives lost could have been spared. It was obvious what Putin was up to in 2022 and there's no way the US did not know. 

 

The only way they could have been spare is if Putin didn't invade Ukraine. You might want them to surrender but the patriots don't.

[transam]

5 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Who's trivializing war. As I have repeatedly said this is a protracted war of attrition. Civilians are being killed as are troops. This happens in wars like it or not. What you continue to avoid is that all these lives lost could have been spared. It was obvious what Putin was up to in 2022 and there's no way the US did not know. 

If Putin never did a Hitler in the first place..............🥺

STOP PASSING THE BUCK.....................

 

When Trump <deleted> up, you will be blaming someone else, probably Biden.......

[tmd5855]

4 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Ukraine is free to defend itself.

 

BUT....

NOT with the support of NATO nor the USA nor the UK.

 

No support to the Ukraine.

 

Better for the world.

 

By far!

 

Cannot understand why many folk believe that Putin woke up one Feb morning 2022 and said, "Serge, Ivanov, lets invade Ukraine??  

I love the timeline 2014, US covert action in the 'Orange Revolution' depose the democratically elected president of Ukraine, this Ukranian President wanted to stay neutral, outside NATO, so had to go.  Guess who were US, VP then???  Guess whose son got involved afterwards with the Ukraine gas/energy business (A book in itself).

Crimea which Russia took from the Ottoman Empire were transferred from Moscow rule to Kiev in 1954 by the then half Ukraine president Khruschev, Russia took it back in 2014 (50 years later) when the now ruling regime in Kiev asked to join NATO 

 

Russia had been told that Nato would not advance east of the Oder & Neisse rivers on German reunification, where is the NATO border now??   Where is the Warsaw pact that it were going to fight.

 

Ukraine had a paramilitary unit called the 'Azov' brigade that the US State department proscribed as a 'terrorist' organisation and were banned from using any US supplied weapons after their behaviour against civilians in the areas of the Ukraine with large numbers of Russian and Russian speaking populace. 

These restrictions were lifted in 2024 this unit is now part of the Ukrainian armed forces. 

Google their banner and flag  'A308'

The celebration of the Ukrainian raised Waffen SS Division (Galicia) with statues and memorial days after the 2014 coup had Putin talking about Nazis in the Kiev government, since this Waffen SS division were now 'freedom fighters' fighting the Red (Russian) army.

 

Zelensky and Putin had a pre 2022 agreement including neutrality and autonomy in a document called the Minsk Accords.  Russia, Germany, France and the UK had signed it.  Biden (Now president) told the scandal ridden UK Prime Minister to go to Kiev and tell Zelensky not to sign, EU and NATO would support him. 

Months later Johson resigned after half his government resigned over his lies, deceptions to the House of Commons

Shortly after Boris had visited, Zelensky withdrew from the agreement Russia having stated this were a red line attacked, a war many folk could see coming for the past 8 years now happened.

 

Joe Biden crossed a number of Putins red lines and got away with them, Minsk accord failure were one red line too far.

Trump for all his (Many, many) faults would have frog marched Zelensky to the table and sign saving thousands of lives and no invasion

Joe Biden now allowing US/Nato supplied weapons to destroy targets in Russia is a cliffhanger of a redline.

 

To program these US missiles and the UK/French cruise missiles need satellite provided co-ordinates, Ukraine does not have this capability, but, NATO has...........   

 

Will be interesting to see the origin/make of the first missile to land in Russia, privately France and the UK are heading out of the room not hearing a word, Germany has already said in a roundabout way reprogramming their donated 'air' launched missiles will not "Change anything"

 

No doubt Trump does not want WWIII on his doorstep on taking office, the phones must be red hot.. 

Edited Tuesday at 07:43 AM by tmd5855

[JonnyF]

6 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I suspect he isn't capable of making that decision on his own, so IMO it's the guy(s) behind the curtain that are guilty of trying to start WW3, or perhaps they just bought a load of shares in the company making the things. Cashing in before it ends.

 

True. 

 

Goodness knows who is running the US right now but it sure isn't him. He can hardly string a sentence together. 

[Presto]

45 minutes ago, tmd5855 said:

Cannot understand why many folk believe that Putin woke up one Feb morning 2022 and said, "Serge, Ivanov, lets invade Ukraine??  

I love the timeline 2014, US covert action in the 'Orange Revolution' depose the democratically elected president of Ukraine, this Ukranian President wanted to stay neutral, outside NATO, so had to go.  Guess who were US, VP then???  Guess whose son got involved afterwards with the Ukraine gas/energy business (A book in itself).

Crimea which Russia took from the Ottoman Empire were transferred from Moscow rule to Kiev in 1954 by the then half Ukraine president Khruschev, Russia took it back in 2014 (50 years later) when the now ruling regime in Kiev asked to join NATO 

 

Russia had been told that Nato would not advance east of the Oder & Neisse rivers on German reunification, where is the NATO border now??   Where is the Warsaw pact that it were going to fight.

 

Ukraine had a paramilitary unit called the 'Azov' brigade that the US State department proscribed as a 'terrorist' organisation and were banned from using any US supplied weapons after their behaviour against civilians in the areas of the Ukraine with large numbers of Russian and Russian speaking populace. 

These restrictions were lifted in 2024 this unit is now part of the Ukrainian armed forces. 

Google their banner and flag  'A308'

The celebration of the Ukrainian raised Waffen SS Division (Galicia) with statues and memorial days after the 2014 coup had Putin talking about Nazis in the Kiev government, since this Waffen SS division were now 'freedom fighters' fighting the Red (Russian) army.

 

Zelensky and Putin had a pre 2022 agreement including neutrality and autonomy in a document called the Minsk Accords.  Russia, Germany, France and the UK had signed it.  Biden (Now president) told the scandal ridden UK Prime Minister to go to Kiev and tell Zelensky not to sign, EU and NATO would support him. 

Months later Johson resigned after half his government resigned over his lies, deceptions to the House of Commons

Shortly after Boris had visited, Zelensky withdrew from the agreement Russia having stated this were a red line attacked, a war many folk could see coming for the past 8 years now happened.

 

Joe Biden crossed a number of Putins red lines and got away with them, Minsk accord failure were one red line too far.

Trump for all his (Many, many) faults would have frog marched Zelensky to the table and sign saving thousands of lives and no invasion

Joe Biden now allowing US/Nato supplied weapons to destroy targets in Russia is a cliffhanger of a redline.

 

To program these US missiles and the UK/French cruise missiles need satellite provided co-ordinates, Ukraine does not have this capability, but, NATO has...........   

 

Will be interesting to see the origin/make of the first missile to land in Russia, privately France and the UK are heading out of the room not hearing a word, Germany has already said in a roundabout way reprogramming their donated 'air' launched missiles will not "Change anything"

 

No doubt Trump does not want WWIII on his doorstep on taking office, the phones must be red hot.. 

The usual revisionist drivel. Putin wanted to join NATO in 2000/2001, remember?

Finland has now joined NATO, will the invincible Putin invade Finland next?

Have you ever heard of Kaliningrad?

[GammaGlobulin]

3 minutes ago, Presto said:

The usual revisionist drivel. Putin wanted to join NATO in 2000/2001, remember?

Finland has now joined NATO, will the invincible Putin invade Finland next?

Have you ever heard of Kaliningrad?

 

No worries if Trump or Putin invades Finland.

 

Linus Torvalds has left that room.

He is now in California.

 

So, our Linux Kernel is safe!

 

Colonel Torvalds will be safe!

 

 

 

[GammaGlobulin]

39 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

True. 

 

Goodness knows who is running the US right now but it sure isn't him. He can hardly string a sentence together. 

 

Chewing gum is too much for him.

And, everyone knows he can't walk.

 

[tmd5855]

1 hour ago, Presto said:

The usual revisionist drivel. Putin wanted to join NATO in 2000/2001, remember?

Finland has now joined NATO, will the invincible Putin invade Finland next?

Have you ever heard of Kaliningrad?

You say revisionist as if what I wrote is not true.

Putin wanted to join NATO showing that after the dissolution of the Warsaw Pact that NATO should evolve into a type of EU where armed forces could reduce lowering tension

 

Worked with Ukrainians and Russians when working offshore, not much between them, the problem is money and power.

The ordinary guys like those guys I worked with never really get the spoils, but, are expected to shed their blood so the instigators get their spoils.

 

2nd Iraq war and the fall of Saddam, who benefitted, not the average Iraqi or the region, who benefitted.

Libya and the deposing of Gaddafi did his removal usher in stability for the region and prosperity, who benefitted.

Departure from Afghanistan following the loss of thousands of sons and fathers, when Russia left the regime they left lasted 8 years........  The Biden installed regime were it 8 hours or minutes.  Who benefitted. 

 

Any country that joins NATO has to standardise their armed forces with NATO compatible equipment.  Who benefits??

[digger70]

12 hours ago, theshu25 said:

Trump as per usual,all talk and bluster. The idiot coulnd't stop a runny nose let alone a foriegn war.

Like they say ; It takes one to know one .

You should know .