K bank E-mail with Tax Forms attached ?

[Gimmi]

Hi everyone.

I have a Thai TIN because I live here and pay taxes, but I also pay taxes in my country of origin (European) for income produced there.

in addition to TIN Thai I also have to write that of my country?

Because on page 2 it asks if I also pay taxes in another countries other Thailand and usa.

thank you.

[JohnnyBD]

Have any US citizens received the KBank email?

 

It appears the emails are being sent mostly to non-US citizens.

[sometimewoodworker]

15 hours ago, MangoKorat said:

One of the problems that could result from completing these forms from Kasikorn is for those UK citizens who are receiving State Pension and have not notified the UK authorities that they are living in Thailand.

So they are committing benefits fraud qed are committing crimes. Exactly how is it relevant to the Thai authorities/banks.

 

That HMRC and HMPO are not chasing them doesn’t make them less criminal.

A crime by omission is no less criminal.

 

Are you suggesting that they should say to the Thai bank/authorities that “because I want to commit fraud I should not have to complete your form“?

 

maybe now you see exactly how ridiculous the idea is?

[CallumWK]

1 minute ago, sometimewoodworker said:

So they are committing benefits fraud qed are committing crimes. Exactly how is it relevant to the Thai authorities/banks.

 

That HMRC and HMPO are not chasing them doesn’t make them less criminal.

A crime by omission is no less criminal.

 

Are you suggesting that they should say to the Thai bank/authorities that “because I want to commit fraud I should not have to complete your form“?

 

maybe now you see exactly how ridiculous the idea is?

Because you inform the Thai bank of your UK TIN, doesn't mean the UK bank automatically receives your Thai TIN

[wallyw00]

1 hour ago, Gimmi said:

Hi everyone.

I have a Thai TIN because I live here and pay taxes, but I also pay taxes in my country of origin (European) for income produced there.

in addition to TIN Thai I also have to write that of my country?

Because on page 2 it asks if I also pay taxes in another countries other Thailand and usa.

thank you.

 It asks are you a 'resident' for tax purposes. I am not resident in my home country and have told the tax authorities so, but I do pay tax on income in that country, so I would tick 'no'

Edited 1 hour ago by wallyw00

[sometimewoodworker]

Just now, CallumWK said:

Because you inform the Thai bank of your UK TIN, doesn't mean the UK bank automatically receives your Thai TIN

And how is that relevant?

[Chongalulu]

On 11/24/2024 at 5:50 AM, ukrules said:

 

The TIN for British nationals tends to be the 'National Insurance Number' - I have only ever used that in the past but I am going back a long time here, like 15 to 20 years

If you complete a UK tax return (or other documents) you'll have a UTR. Unique Tax Reference Number which would be too be equivalent. I don't know if you might have such a number otherwise too.

[CallumWK]

Just now, sometimewoodworker said:

And how is that relevant?

 

As relevant as the drivel I replied to

[Andrew Dwyer]

18 minutes ago, Chongalulu said:

If you complete a UK tax return (or other documents) you'll have a UTR. Unique Tax Reference Number which would be too be equivalent. I don't know if you might have such a number otherwise too.

Find your UTR via.  tax.service.gov.uk

[garygooner]

Uk citizen staying in Bangkok.  I don't think Kbank has my email address, so I'm waiting to see if I'll receive anything in the post. Either way I'll visit Kbank next week. Would be good if others give feedback after their visit to the bank. 

 

[StayinThailand2much]

What happens, if I don't comply? (Currently, I am unable to get a "true, certified passport copy".)

[OJAS]

36 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Find your UTR via.  tax.service.gov.uk

 

Too much, I suppose, to expect the TRD to adopt a similar online registration process in order to obtain a TIN!

 

https://www.gov.uk/register-for-self-assessment

 

[OJAS]

1 hour ago, CallumWK said:

Because you inform the Thai bank of your UK TIN, doesn't mean the UK bank automatically receives your Thai TIN

 

But your UK bank may, in any event, already be aware of your Thai TIN as a result of a self-certification form (example below) they asked you to complete back in 2016 preparatory to the implementation of CRS in the UK!

Edited 58 minutes ago by OJAS

[AgMech Cowboy]

I've not received this email, but they probably still have an old e-address in their files for me.  The phone number is still the same, so maybe they'll drop me an SMS.

[CallumWK]

I was just on the phone with Kasikorn, and asked them about the documents.

Those that opened any account after April 2023 will not receive the email, since they will already have filled in the documents when opening the account

[Jingthing]

40 minutes ago, StayinThailand2much said:

What happens, if I don't comply? (Currently, I am unable to get a "true, certified passport copy".)

This implies no consequences. 

 

 

[garygooner]

15 hours ago, garygooner said:

birth.They only want a Thai TIN number if you work in Thailand.Said tick no for all the US questions and ignore the tax resident in another country bit.Sign and date and the jobs a good 'un.Took 2 minutes.

Did you say you don't have a Thai TIN and give a reason? 

[Lacessit]

I took the FATCA form in. I did not include the IRS forms, not American.

 

Some puzzlement from the staff, they phoned head office. Asked me if I had received an email from Kasikorn, answer yes.

 

They checked the form, took a photocopy of my passport and savings book together. Finish.

 

I included the number from my Thai pink card. I did not include my Australian tax number, or any address in Australia.