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44 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

(he'll be the first overtly gay Cabinet member if approved)

Mr. Bessant will be the first overtly gay Republican Cabinet member if approved.

 

Current Transportation Sec. Pete Buttigieg, the first as above.

 

 

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19 hours ago, jaywalker2 said:

Treasury Secretary candidate Scott Bessant is the founder of the macro hedge fund Key Square Capital Management. Bessent was once the top money manager for George Soros. Another top pick from the world financial elite. He's actually a gay gobalist (he'll be the first overtly gay Cabinet member if approved) and was a big donor to the Al Gore campaign.Look for him to try to mitigate Trump's pledge on tariffs.

 

Commerce Secretary? Billionaire Howard Lutnik, the chief executive officer of Cantor Fitzgerald, another big global financial firm.

 

Drain that swamp, baby. These guys will working their butts off for the working people, I'm sure.

 

Surgeon General? Janette Nesheiwat, whose main claim to fame seems to be that she's a frequent contributor to Fox News, which is where Trump seems to be getting his a lot of his Cabinet ideas. She was also a big advocate for the vaccines, anti-vax lovers.

 

When it comes to hawking supplements, of course, no one beats Dr. Oz, who's created a $100 million empire promoting dubious supplements and fake cures like homeopathy, psychic medicine, conversion therapy, green coffee extract for weight loss. He will now be in charge of the Medicare and Medicaide programs. He'll probably cut funding and tell the elderly to buy his supplements.

 

Surprise pick? Lori Chavez-DeRemer, a former Republican house member from Oregan and big union supporter. The Teamsters have even approved of her.


 

 

 

 

Sounds a bit homofobik, masogyniacal, rasist. 

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Posted
22 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

Mr. Bessant will be the first overtly gay Republican Cabinet member if approved.

 

Current Transportation Sec. Pete Buttigieg, the first as above.

 

 

Seems we may need a new  separate set of bathrooms  !

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22 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

Mr. Bessant will be the first overtly gay Republican Cabinet member if approved.

 

Current Transportation Sec. Pete Buttigieg, the first as above.

 

 

The actual difference is that Petey B got his job because he was a Homosexual, not because he was competent, or a leader

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Posted
54 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

What's interesting to me about Trump's Cabinet choices is the lack of any sort of ideological consistency. Trump is well known for his support of traditional Christian values (appointing some of the most conservative Supreme Court justices in years) and his attacks on "woke" ideologies. 

You could have stopped with the first sentence- he is a full blown narcissist void of ideology. Trump's religion is Trump- he cares about no one but himself. He is not a supporter of traditional Christian values, it's just he understands a group dumb enough to believe in a master puppeteer in the sky is easily conned. 

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52 minutes ago, EveryG said:

You could have stopped with the first sentence- he is a full blown narcissist void of ideology. Trump's religion is Trump- he cares about no one but himself. He is not a supporter of traditional Christian values, it's just he understands a group dumb enough to believe in a master puppeteer in the sky is easily conned. 

Trumps religion is America and you cannot point to one fact that shows different.

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19 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Trumps religion is America and you cannot point to one fact that shows different.

Everything about Trump suggests he cares only about himself. I can't point to one fact that shows he actually cares about the USA or any of the people in it. If you can't see this, you've been conned. 

 

 

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3 hours ago, jaywalker2 said:

What's interesting to me about Trump's Cabinet choices is the lack of any sort of ideological consistency. Trump is well known for his support of traditional Christian values (appointing some of the most conservative Supreme Court justices in years) and his attacks on "woke" ideologies. His attacks on transgenders have been particularly notable.

 

His selections for Cabinet posts haven't necessarily reflected this conservative ideology. Scott Bessent is an example of this. To the Maga community, Soros is the devil incarnate so to have one of his acolytes as Treasury Secretary is intolerable. Bessent also was a big donor to the Democrats before he swtiched his loyalty to Trump. Plus, he has been an open advocate for gay rights, which is likely to inflame the Christian right supporters.

 

RFK Jr himself ran on a platform of traditional Democratic principles, which he felt the party had deviated from in recent years. His surgeon general choice was a strong supporter of the Covid 19 vaccine, which has the anti-vax crowd on Twitter up in arms. His Transportation Secretary is a union supporter.

 

Trump cares less about ideology than he does about personal loyalty. His first cabinet was stacked with billionaires and that appears to be the case with his second Cabinet as well. Despite his campaign rhetoric, he is completely comfortable with the current social regime dominated by financial elites. Loyalists, elites, and Fox news celebrities. That's the Trump Cabinet.

The shift in wealth in this modern tech and asset shuffling economy (confession....I was the proverbial asset shuffler as a hedge fund manager) has been even more staggering than the days of the Robber Barons. No way is it going to stop under 47, as he will bend over backwards to curry the praise of the Musks and Griffins and Thiels of the world.

 

His entire life has been about trying to gain the acceptance of his 'betters'. He was always a joke in NYC. He tried to manufacture status with his golf resort and wedding planner facility and its $200,000 membership fee, but he only drew in gauche nouveau riche types or perverts like Jeffrey Epstein. He saw he could appeal to the great unwashed when he finally had financial success with his Game Show, and he used that to catapult himself into the White House. Even his followers on this site think he's a 'successful businessman', when he always bled his father's money (evidenced by his leaked tax returns) until Mark Burnett saved him with the game show.

 

His various nominees either come from entertainment or big wealth. His choice of Bessent, who followed Rogers and Drunkenmiller in the Soros Organization, was quite a surprise given Soros' 'devil incarnate' status among magas that you noted. Let the Trojan Horse meme begin!

 

47 is a 'man of the people' who hates the people he is the 'man' of....and I use the term 'man' loosely, as the whining crybaby butterball is only a weakling's epitome of a man, just as he's a poor person's idea of a rich man and a dumb person's idea of a smart man. What he has most in common with his cult---and why they think he is one of them---is because he's fat and out of shape, a whiner and crybaby, and always thinks his own failures are others' faults.

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7 hours ago, EveryG said:

Everything about Trump suggests he cares only about himself. I can't point to one fact that shows he actually cares about the USA or any of the people in it. If you can't see this, you've been conned. 

 

 

And yet, no facts, just obsessive hate.

Posted
9 hours ago, jaywalker2 said:

What's interesting to me about Trump's Cabinet choices is the lack of any sort of ideological consistency. Trump is well known for his support of traditional Christian values (appointing some of the most conservative Supreme Court justices in years) and his attacks on "woke" ideologies. His attacks on transgenders have been particularly notable.

 

His selections for Cabinet posts haven't necessarily reflected this conservative ideology. Scott Bessent is an example of this. To the Maga community, Soros is the devil incarnate so to have one of his acolytes as Treasury Secretary is intolerable. Bessent also was a big donor to the Democrats before he swtiched his loyalty to Trump. Plus, he has been an open advocate for gay rights, which is likely to inflame the Christian right supporters.

 

RFK Jr himself ran on a platform of traditional Democratic principles, which he felt the party had deviated from in recent years. His surgeon general choice was a strong supporter of the Covid 19 vaccine, which has the anti-vax crowd on Twitter up in arms. His Transportation Secretary is a union supporter.

 

Trump cares less about ideology than he does about personal loyalty. His first cabinet was stacked with billionaires and that appears to be the case with his second Cabinet as well. Despite his campaign rhetoric, he is completely comfortable with the current social regime dominated by financial elites. Loyalists, elites, and Fox news celebrities. That's the Trump Cabinet.

 

Well, he's not a "Christian" (viz Freudian slip when speaking at Turning Point Action on July 24th. He doesn't have an ideology, just populism, which means, for him, Ratings. He bends with the wind, looking for acceptance among his peers as you indicate. For instance, as Trumpf the Celebrity, he mixed with all kinds of people. He went to Elton John's wedding, and probably had a good time there with some unusual characters (and Trumpf, as number 45, put on a screening of "Rocketman" at the Whitehouse, which included the first representation of  gay sex in a mainstream film (Trump and Elton have a long relationship, with Trumpf being like a puppy dog when around the singer). Maybe Trumpf has some latent homosexual tendancies, repressed for decades, symbolised by his shakey marriages,

 

I see another dysfunctional cabinet, like last time. Last time, at least at first, he assembled a reasonable group of technocrats, who would probably take a fresh look at the business of governance, from a non-ideological perspective. These were men, women, in their own fields, considered leaders, and very capable people. But that's not the sort of people Trumpf employed before. The Trump Organisation employees seems to be a bunch of second raters, considering what they went on to do. Which is fine in an essentially family business, when its the family that really runs the business. And when you start with a fortune (inheritance), generally its very hard to turn that into not a fortune. These guys seem to make a lot of money through not actually doing a lot.

 

But now the cabinet is full of people that publicly love Trump, and publicly, he loves them. But they won't love each other. And certainly won't like DOGE when their budgets are cut, yet they, and the boss, want to do all this stuff.

 

So MTG will be working with  Musk. Which is a guarantee he will flounce. If she had some Thatcherite laser focus on detail, you might think that the US budget will come under some serious control. But in reality, she's not even a second rate politican, probably more like Angela Rayner in UK terms, another politician with little education, but a loud mouth, that does attract sympathy. And who is now getting found out.

 

The dog murderer who will be head of homeland security; got a big budget and hundreds of thousands of agents ripe for cutting. She will argue its some other department that needs cutting, she needs more money if anything.

 

RFK jr, when pictured holding a big Mac and full fat HFCS Coke on Trump's plain genuinely looked like he had been kidnapped. He's going to want to ban fast food, sodas et. Trump is going to push back say the Big Mac is a healthy meal, and that he's evidence of that healthiness. He will also be expected to support the FDA's request to Congress to expands its ability to access private citizens' medical records, to they can check if this AI stuff actually works, the same AI stuff the boss is a big fan of. I sense there could be some ideological resistance there.

 

The groper cum Defence Secretary will probably go a bit quiet on dropping the Geneva Convention, when surrounded by all those Westpointers, pointing out the ethics training that the US Military wrote the book on at Nuremburg, and being a mere Colonel, he will know his place

 

The new head of the VA is promising to get Vets the money "they deserve", but faced with big cuts in his budget, will probably turn that to mean some will be more deserving of others, which might be bad news for those who might have gained some seniority while in service.

 

In someways, comparable to the UK "Brexit Cabinet" from Boris onwards; people appointed because they either supported Brexit, or were willing to shift their opinion (Jenrick) out of sheer opportunism. Never actually got that much done.

 

The interesting dynamic is Vance. 15 VPs have become President. Of those only 4 sitting Vice Presidents have become elected President. 9 became President intraterm, because the boss died or resigned. Vance has a good chance at that. Normally VPs melt into the background, and play the role of the literal "spare". Vance is a young guy, and ambitious; does he have the strength of character to dominate Trumpf, particularly as Trumpf won't be seeking re-election. I will assume that Vance, privately, thinks Trumpf is like Hitler, but without the intellect. The last really ambitious VP  (I don't count Biden or Harris) was Al Gore, who, as VPs go, was fairly headline grabbing (and in someways, ideology aside, quite comparable to Vance).

 

As Trumpf ages, does he become more belliconse, and his power become more centralised with him. and America becomes ruled by EO, or do the cabinet do their own thing, he rubber stamps everything and let the boss rant?

 

Vance has a very good chance of being 48, because either Trumpf croaks, or, as long as he doesn't totally feck things up, he'll get a very good GOP candidate in 2028, knowing enough to say moderate things to win from the center, and finally marginalise the extremists, who have been given too much voice, like they have in the UK.

 

 

Posted
12 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Trumps religion is America and you cannot point to one fact that shows different.

 

Trump's religion might well be America, but his God is Donald Trump.

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Posted
8 hours ago, Caldera said:

 

Trump's religion might well be America, but his God is Donald Trump.

Please cite the facts that you allege demonstrates that Donald Trump thinks he is god.

 

Or be deemed a Leftist progandist based on the non factual nonsense you post.

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Posted
14 hours ago, MicroB said:

 

Well, he's not a "Christian" (viz Freudian slip when speaking at Turning Point Action on July 24th. He doesn't have an ideology, just populism, which means, for him, Ratings. He bends with the wind, looking for acceptance among his peers as you indicate. For instance, as Trumpf the Celebrity, he mixed with all kinds of people. He went to Elton John's wedding, and probably had a good time there with some unusual characters (and Trumpf, as number 45, put on a screening of "Rocketman" at the Whitehouse, which included the first representation of  gay sex in a mainstream film (Trump and Elton have a long relationship, with Trumpf being like a puppy dog when around the singer). Maybe Trumpf has some latent homosexual tendancies, repressed for decades, symbolised by his shakey marriages,

 

I see another dysfunctional cabinet, like last time. Last time, at least at first, he assembled a reasonable group of technocrats, who would probably take a fresh look at the business of governance, from a non-ideological perspective. These were men, women, in their own fields, considered leaders, and very capable people. But that's not the sort of people Trumpf employed before. The Trump Organisation employees seems to be a bunch of second raters, considering what they went on to do. Which is fine in an essentially family business, when its the family that really runs the business. And when you start with a fortune (inheritance), generally its very hard to turn that into not a fortune. These guys seem to make a lot of money through not actually doing a lot.

 

But now the cabinet is full of people that publicly love Trump, and publicly, he loves them. But they won't love each other. And certainly won't like DOGE when their budgets are cut, yet they, and the boss, want to do all this stuff.

 

So MTG will be working with  Musk. Which is a guarantee he will flounce. If she had some Thatcherite laser focus on detail, you might think that the US budget will come under some serious control. But in reality, she's not even a second rate politican, probably more like Angela Rayner in UK terms, another politician with little education, but a loud mouth, that does attract sympathy. And who is now getting found out.

 

The dog murderer who will be head of homeland security; got a big budget and hundreds of thousands of agents ripe for cutting. She will argue its some other department that needs cutting, she needs more money if anything.

 

RFK jr, when pictured holding a big Mac and full fat HFCS Coke on Trump's plain genuinely looked like he had been kidnapped. He's going to want to ban fast food, sodas et. Trump is going to push back say the Big Mac is a healthy meal, and that he's evidence of that healthiness. He will also be expected to support the FDA's request to Congress to expands its ability to access private citizens' medical records, to they can check if this AI stuff actually works, the same AI stuff the boss is a big fan of. I sense there could be some ideological resistance there.

 

The groper cum Defence Secretary will probably go a bit quiet on dropping the Geneva Convention, when surrounded by all those Westpointers, pointing out the ethics training that the US Military wrote the book on at Nuremburg, and being a mere Colonel, he will know his place

 

The new head of the VA is promising to get Vets the money "they deserve", but faced with big cuts in his budget, will probably turn that to mean some will be more deserving of others, which might be bad news for those who might have gained some seniority while in service.

 

In someways, comparable to the UK "Brexit Cabinet" from Boris onwards; people appointed because they either supported Brexit, or were willing to shift their opinion (Jenrick) out of sheer opportunism. Never actually got that much done.

 

The interesting dynamic is Vance. 15 VPs have become President. Of those only 4 sitting Vice Presidents have become elected President. 9 became President intraterm, because the boss died or resigned. Vance has a good chance at that. Normally VPs melt into the background, and play the role of the literal "spare". Vance is a young guy, and ambitious; does he have the strength of character to dominate Trumpf, particularly as Trumpf won't be seeking re-election. I will assume that Vance, privately, thinks Trumpf is like Hitler, but without the intellect. The last really ambitious VP  (I don't count Biden or Harris) was Al Gore, who, as VPs go, was fairly headline grabbing (and in someways, ideology aside, quite comparable to Vance).

 

As Trumpf ages, does he become more belliconse, and his power become more centralised with him. and America becomes ruled by EO, or do the cabinet do their own thing, he rubber stamps everything and let the boss rant?

 

Vance has a very good chance of being 48, because either Trumpf croaks, or, as long as he doesn't totally feck things up, he'll get a very good GOP candidate in 2028, knowing enough to say moderate things to win from the center, and finally marginalise the extremists, who have been given too much voice, like they have in the UK.

 

 

 

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