Pink ID Card has your Tax ID number

[jwest10]

19 hours ago, Mutt Daeng said:

I also went and got a TIN today and guess what? It's not the same number on my Pink ID card/YTB.

No one including the so-called experts have a clue on all these forms and non tax forms!!!

[jwest10]

3 hours ago, Crossy said:

 

Mine is 13 digits in the same format as the Thai ID number, starts with a 0 (zero).

My Pink ID card has the same 15-digit number as Tin which I do not have and no 0 the fist digit

[Crossy]

1 minute ago, jwest10 said:

My Pink ID card has the same 15-digit number as Tin which I do not have and no 0 the fist digit

 

Hmmm, are you quite sure it's 15 digits? The standard Thai ID format is 13 digits arranged like this "X XXXX XXXXX XX X".

 

Unless something has changed recently of course.

[KannikaP]

5 minutes ago, jwest10 said:

My Pink ID card has the same 15-digit number as Tin which I do not have and no 0 the fist digit

If you do not have a TIN, how do you know its number?

[CFCol]

6 hours ago, arick said:

I don't know what you guys are talking about but if for an ID number starts with 6 Tax ID number start with 099

Correct

[jwest10]

51 minutes ago, OJAS said:

13 digits on pink Ud same as Thai ID
Corrected and had to look it up again and so sorry but again there is confusion all round and not just on the ID cards but when and if tax forms are out and well end of November and so many experts who know nothing at all!!!

 

 

 

 

And presumably your COVID vaccination certificates contain a 13-digit ID number which is different from those on your pink ID and TIN cards!😆

 

 

[jwest10]

1 minute ago, CFCol said:

Correct

Not so!!!

[gamb00ler]

My 3 years old TIN card has 13-digit # starting with 099.  Format is 099-x-xxxxxxxx-x.

 

I've given it to 3 Thai banks and I have no tax withheld on savings accounts.

[jwest10]

16 minutes ago, Crossy said:

 

Hmmm, are you quite sure it's 15 digits? The standard Thai ID format is 13 digits arranged like this "X XXXX XXXXX XX X".

 

Unless something has changed recently of course.

Definately sure 100%

[CharlieH]

35 minutes ago, CFCol said:

Correct

clearly not in every case, as usual things vary depending on office region etc.

 

[alesaldana]

Sorry, wrong quotation and I can not delete the post

[alesaldana]

6 hours ago, vukovar77 said:

I have a TIN and a Pink ID. Numbers are not the same.

Same here! I applied for the TIN, around 3 years before I got my PID, and the numbers are not the same

[jwest10]

20 hours ago, Mutt Daeng said:

I submitted the Lor.Por.10.1 when I applied today. My TIN begins with a 0 (zero) and my Pink ID begins with a 6.

I have definately been told by my local tax office my pink Id would be acceptable but then several times, they asked me about my financial situation and stated that I would not need to file a tax form even so the pink ID could be used if my income was above the threshold m which it is not and do not work in Thailand!!!

[Lacessit]

I put my Thai pink card number on the FATCA form sent by Kasikorn Bank. Staff at the bank did not question it.

 

If it's not the same as a TIN, not my problem.

[hunkidori]

22 hours ago, CharlieH said:

 

 

So, sorting out Tax ID today for the upcoming probable tax implications and in direct response to the request from Kasikorn Bank to provide Tax ID. 

 

 

 

Can I ask why did Kasikorn request you provide a Tax ID? Was it because you are trying to claim back tax paid on interest or do you think it was for another reason?

[CharlieH]

5 minutes ago, hunkidori said:

 

Can I ask why did Kasikorn request you provide a Tax ID? Was it because you are trying to claim back tax paid on interest or do you think it was for another reason?

 

As stated in the email and posted in various places, Kasikorn Bank MUST comply with changing banking and financial regulations, in order to conform those details are required. Which is why thousands of expats have received the same email.

[hunkidori]

3 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

 

As stated in the email and posted in various places, Kasikorn Bank MUST comply with changing banking and financial regulations, in order to conform those details are required. Which is why thousands of expats have received the same email.

Fair enough although I haven't seen an email. My banks, Krungsri and Bangkok bank have not mentioned anything to me.

[Mutt Daeng]

2 hours ago, OJAS said:

 

 

 

 

And presumably your COVID vaccination certificates contain a 13-digit ID number which is different from those on your pink ID and TIN cards!😆

 

Yes. The "covid ID" is a different number, presumably because at the time I didn't have a Pink ID or TIN.

[arick]

2 hours ago, jwest10 said:

 

Unless you registered your pink ID when you had your vaccine

[jwest10]

Just now, arick said:

Unless you registered your pink ID when you had your vaccine

Yes indeed thought I had

[jwest10]

41 minutes ago, Mutt Daeng said:

Yes. The "covid ID" is a different number, presumably because at the time I didn't have a Pink ID or TIN.

You absolutely correct they are different!!!

[MartinL]

2 hours ago, jwest10 said:

I have definately been told by my local tax office my pink Id would be acceptable but then several times, they asked me about my financial situation and stated that I would not need to file a tax form even so the pink ID could be used if my income was above the threshold m which it is not and do not work in Thailand!!!

Years ago, my local tax office told me that, since I had no income from Thailand, there was no need to register for income tax. I left it at that.

 

Now, things are different and it's remittances into Thailand that are considered. I remit money into Thailand (of course) so I'll try to register.

 

My query - if I go to the local tax office and am again told, for whatever reason, that registration isn't necessary yet one day in the future the TRD says "You didn't register and now you owe LOTS of back taxes", what proof would I have that I attempted to register and was refused? Tax evasion is a serious offence and maybe non-registration is, too. IMO, lack of proof of attempted registration could lead to all sorts of <snip>!!

[MartinL]

3 hours ago, OJAS said:

 

 

 

 

And presumably your COVID vaccination certificates contain a 13-digit ID number which is different from those on your pink ID and TIN cards!😆

 

 

My first COVID certificate had a 13 digit number that wasn't my PID card number, alongside my passport number. On certificate 2, the 13 digit number was changed to my PID card number at my request and was shown alongside my passport number. Certificate 3 (showing all 3 shots) had PID card number only.

[Lamphen]

The vaccination certificate is yet another 13 digit number 🙂

 

[Crossy]

3 minutes ago, Lamphen said:

The vaccination certificate is yet another 13 digit number 🙂

 

Mine is the same as my pink ID and social security number 🙂

 

Consistently inconsistent, welcome to Thailand! 

[khunPer]

On 11/26/2024 at 9:22 AM, CharlieH said:

 

Let me start this off with the usual caveat that situations and regions etc may vary as is the norm with Thailand. Rarely is there a "one size fit all"

 

So, sorting out Tax ID today for the upcoming probable tax implications and in direct response to the request from Kasikorn Bank to provide Tax ID. I visited a Thai accountant today, and within s very short space of time my official tax id was sorted. It is exact;ly the same number on my Pink ID card or in my Yellow tabien bahn.

 

Nice to know of yet another use for these often decried items.

 

Yes, your TIN number is same as ID-number, but earlier – perhaps it is still so – you needed to register for income tax, before the ID-number became a valid TIN.

[sabaijai]

I got my TIN in 1997 and pink ID in 2005. I just compared the two and they're not the same number. 

[Luuk Chaai]

On 11/26/2024 at 4:02 PM, Mutt Daeng said:

No. I presented my Pink ID card and YTB when I applied for the TIN.

same for me  but the man in the revenue dept already told me that being an American anf=d just using SS funds and IRA "taxed funds.  there should be  zero taxes ,,  just a matter of filing nonsense paperwork

[OJAS]

17 hours ago, Mutt Daeng said:

Yes. The "covid ID" is a different number, presumably because at the time I didn't have a Pink ID or TIN.

 

Or maybe because you, like myself, obtained initial COVID jabs courtesy of the British Chambers of Commerce Thailand, rather than through official Thai channels?

[jwest10]

20 hours ago, jwest10 said:

 

Definately the case!!!