Trump's Sex Crime Cabinet

[Thingamabob]

On 11/27/2024 at 11:00 AM, jvs said:

I totally disagree.

Abortion should be decided by the people involved!That would be the female who is pregnant foremost.

As it should be.

I have to admit i am for abortion after birth in some cases,

Abortion after birth ? Who should kill the baby ? The doctors, the parents, or someone else ?

[spidermike007]

It is very much the nature of Donald Trump to select from the bottom of the barrel, he needs absolute fealty, and it's hard to get that from high quality candidates. It's also very possible that he can simply relate to those accused of a sex crime as they have a similar nature to himself. In addition to the sex crime issue there's also just the issue of grossly underqualified and totally inappropriate people for very important positions. 

 

It goes almost without saying that Kash Patel, whom Donald Trump picked over the weekend to lead the F.B.I., is supremely unqualified to direct the nation’s premier federal law enforcement agency.

That’s what even those who know Mr. Patel well are saying: “He’s absolutely unqualified for this job. He’s untrustworthy,” his supervisor in the first Trump administration, Charles Kupperman, told The Wall Street Journal. “It’s an absolute disgrace to American citizens to even consider an individual of this nature.” Mr. Kupperman’s view is hardly an outlier: In Mr. Trump’s first term, both Bill Barr, then the attorney general, and Gina Haspel, then the C.I.A. director, went to great lengths to prevent Mr. Patel from being installed in senior intelligence and law enforcement roles.

 

Yet the Patel selection stands out as more concretely dangerous and worrisome than many of the other questionable Trump choices. The true danger is almost less about Mr. Patel and more about what it says about Mr. Trump and his approach to his new presidency.

 

To understand the full scope of the damage Mr. Patel could inflict, you have to understand how unique, powerful and dangerous the F.B.I. can be — and why a Patel directorship would likely corrupt and bend the institution for decades, even if he only served a few years.

 

Choosing anyone new at this point is concerning because it is a flagrant break with tradition. There is no current vacancy at the head of the F.B.I.: Following J. Edgar Hoover’s decades-long tenure, Congress set into law in 1976 a 10-year term for the F.B.I. director, fireable only for cause. It is meant to isolate the job from political influence, and Christopher Wray — originally nominated by Mr. Trump in 2017 — still has two years left to serve.

 

What this independence illustrates is that the F.B.I. is not, as many MAGA loyalists believe, some liberal bastion of wokeness. No Democrat has ever served as an F.B.I. director. Even Democratic presidents appoint Republican officials to head the bureau, as Mr. Obama and Mr. Clinton both did in their presidencies.

 

Mr. Trump has been clear in what he is trying to do with a nominee like Mr. Patel: He wants to bend and break the bureau and weaponize it against his political enemies and domestic critics. Mr. Patel himself said last year that he hopes to prosecute journalists.

[BritManToo]

20 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

It is very much the nature of Donald Trump to select from the bottom of the barrel, he needs absolute fealty, and it's hard to get that from high quality candidates. It's also very possible that he can simply relate to those accused of a sex crime as they have a similar nature to himself. In addition to the sex crime issue there's also just the issue of grossly underqualified and totally inappropriate people for very important positions. 

Anyone that doesn't select staff for their fealty is a bloody fool!

And if you really really need to employ someone you don't trust, better have the budget to watch them, and maybe have some criminal offences to blackmail them with if needed.

 

It's how security forces/services across the entire world operate.

[chilli42]

Politicians are not elected for their towering intellect. Most are thick as a fence post … their highest intellectual achievement is to be cunning. They are not elected for their morals (sexual, graft etc) as everyone knows they have none. They are not elected for their honesty (you have to laugh at that notion). These guys were elected to give the country a badly needed colonic. To do this ruthless people are needed. People who are not afraid to be hated. People not afraid to break things. It’s not going to be enjoyable but should feel better after. Yes of course their buddies will all be richer after but that was going to happen no matter who was elected.

[ChrisKC]

On 11/27/2024 at 11:51 AM, Albo said:

I'm out of here you people are insane

You are "out of here"

 

GOOD!

[EveryG]

You promised to quit, but here you are again....

3 hours ago, frank83628 said:

No conviction, just opinion, which doesn't count,

No criminal conviction, but far more than opinion. I would say the evidence collected, Trump's lies, witness testimony, a jury trial, a finding by that jury that he was liable for criminal assault, the common law definition of the word rape, dismissed counterclaims by Trump, appellate court review, and more can all lead one to reasonably claim that Trump is a rapist. You, on the other hand, between insults and logical fallacies, have offered nothing but conspiracy theories...not a single resource to back up any of your claims...all of which I have completely dismantled. 

3 hours ago, frank83628 said:

Oh hang on, I just read she went on CNN...oh well, that changes everything if she said it🤔.

You have, once again, completely missed the point. The fact that she was on CNN and what she said is irrelevant. Trump sued her for defamation because she called him a rapist on that network. The judge laid out a very long opinion on that and other matters related to the case, all based on the FACTS obtained during the trial.  His conclusion was that it can't be defamation because a jury found Trump committed the act known as rape. 

 

Rape does not need the criminal justice system in America to prove its existence. Rape either happens or it doesn't. I have demonstrated over and over that there is PLENTY of evidence showing that Trump raped E Jean Carroll...and you have nothing but unsubstantiated and illogical thoughts which can hardly even be considered opinions- I could teach a parrot to tow the MAGA party line 

 

[Hanaguma]

On 11/27/2024 at 1:00 PM, jvs said:

I totally disagree.

Abortion should be decided by the people involved!That would be the female who is pregnant foremost.

As it should be.

I have to admit i am for abortion after birth in some cases,

Hey, she didn't get pregnant through immaculate conception.  By your logic, shouldn't the prospective father ALSO be involved? No pregnancy without his 'input' after all. 

[Hanaguma]

Big surprise, a discussion about Trump's potential cabinet picks devolves into.......... a discussion about Trump himself!

 

Who'd have thought...

[Yellowtail]

On 11/29/2024 at 10:22 AM, EveryG said:

Forcing a woman into a dressing room and sexually assaulting her is exactly what he was found liable for. He has lost every appeal. 

 

Before he was ever in politics, Trump had been accused of rape multiple times-can't say that about any other modern president. 

You are lying. The "victim's" story is she went into the dressing room willingly. 

[jvs]

1 hour ago, Hanaguma said:

Hey, she didn't get pregnant through immaculate conception.  By your logic, shouldn't the prospective father ALSO be involved? No pregnancy without his 'input' after all. 

Yes of course the father should be involved,problem is they mostly do a runner.

[EveryG]

On 11/29/2024 at 10:22 AM, EveryG said:

Forcing a woman into a dressing room and sexually assaulting her is exactly what he was found liable for. He has lost every appeal. 

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

You are lying. The "victim's" story is she went into the dressing room willingly. 

Lying and misspeaking are two very different things. I'm not going to bother researching this detail because it's irrelevant, but even if true, the facts then don't make Trump look any better:

The victim went into the dressing room willingly, and then Trump raped her.

 

Happy? 

 

On 11/29/2024 at 10:22 AM, EveryG said:

Before he was ever in politics, Trump had been accused of rape multiple times-can't say that about any other modern president. 

 

I noticed you didn't respond to this point. Probably better to ignore it, especially since even Trump's first wife accused him of rape around 1993. 

 

 

 

[HK MacPhooey]

On 11/27/2024 at 12:18 PM, Albo said:

The OP is both insidious and libelous.

 

None of the individuals / cabinet members potentials mentioned have had been convicted of anything, any wrongdoing. The Trump lawfare will be overturned like all the rest.

Yup, the anti Trump lawfare continues… bring on 2025 so that we can reset the Doomsday Clock a few more minutes from midnight … all the other ‘Trump grabbed the pussy’ nonsense is just a leftist smokescreen

[HK MacPhooey]

4 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Big surprise, a discussion about Trump's potential cabinet picks devolves into.......... a discussion about Trump himself!

 

Who'd have thought...

Don’t worry Trump will bring us back from the brink of WWIII then any other leftist propaganda against him will be no more than unicorn farts

[HK MacPhooey]

On 11/27/2024 at 12:45 PM, EveryG said:

Please, Trump was convicted of 34 felonies by a jury and MAGAs have consistently said it was rigged. Trump was found civilly liable in a sexual assault case by a jury. Your faux respect of the law is humorous- you would never accept a criminal conviction even while convictions for sexual assault are the most notoriously difficult to obtain. 

Don’t care about pissy ‘Trump touched the pussy’ nonsense allegations -  maybe he did / maybe he didn’t. The most important thing is DJT as leader of the free World bringing us all back from the brink of nuclear war… or am I missing something here?

[Mad Mustang]

Lefty dribble. Trump aced it, get over it.

[khunJam]

8 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

 

 

9 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

It is very much the nature of Donald Trump to select from the bottom of the barrel, he needs absolute fealty, and it's hard to get that from high quality candidates.

If I were indoctrinated by the Media Industrial Complex I would be thinking the same and not realizing that Trump, Mr MAGA himself is doing exactly what he needs to do by choosing the best and brightest to implement his anti woke, anti deep state and anti warmongering agenda. But never mind all that and continue to be diluted with the mythical media reverberations and come here to entertain us all with it.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 12/5/2024 at 4:51 PM, EveryG said:

People who are convicted in a criminal court are called convicted rapists. Trump is not a convicted rapist. 

 

People who rape are rapists. Trump is a rapist. 

 

Free English lesson for you today. You're welcome. 

Prove it or it's just lefty BS.

[thaibeachlovers]

7 hours ago, EveryG said:

He did. And he's a rapist.

LOL. If he is a rapist for that then so are a few million western guys that visited Thailand for a spot of ***** grabbing.

 

You can repeat the lefty woke BS as much as you like but it doesn't make it true.

 

[thaibeachlovers]

8 hours ago, HK MacPhooey said:

Don’t worry Trump will bring us back from the brink of WWIII then any other leftist propaganda against him will be no more than unicorn farts

Unicorn farts- I like that. Sums up lefty woke rants perfectly.

[thaibeachlovers]

16 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Anyone that doesn't select staff for their fealty is a bloody fool!

And if you really really need to employ someone you don't trust, better have the budget to watch them, and maybe have some criminal offences to blackmail them with if needed.

 

It's how security forces/services across the entire world operate.

Seems certain posters are so demented they think Trump should pick people that will not be loyal to him. Only something lefty woke people would say.

Trump employed people that were not loyal last time and got the vile Kelly, the despicable Bolton and the execrable Sessions. He's not going to willingly make that mistake again.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 11/27/2024 at 5:15 PM, Albo said:

So, the man has no decision in the matter. If the woman decides to have the child just to pay up.

As it should be. It's not the man that has to carry a parasite around for 9 months, ruin their figure, get morning sickness, and experience more pain on birthing than you would want, EVER.

 

If the man doesn't want to end up paying for a brat he should keep his pants zipped. I have zero sympathy for any man that ends up paying because he was too stupid to use a condom- never trust a woman that says she is on the pill so it's OK- the pill can fail to work for various reasons.

 

I've observed a few births during training and if I were a woman no man without a vasectomy would ever get to stick it in me.

[thaibeachlovers]

8 hours ago, HK MacPhooey said:

Don’t care about pissy ‘Trump touched the pussy’ nonsense allegations -

Me too.

[thaibeachlovers]

10 hours ago, EveryG said:

The victim went into the dressing room willingly, and then Trump raped her.

That's as stupid an argument as the woman that went into a vicious boxer's bedroom was then raped.

 

Only woke people believe that.

[thaibeachlovers]

8 hours ago, Mad Mustang said:

Lefty dribble. Trump aced it, get over it.

Well said.

[thaibeachlovers]

11 hours ago, EveryG said:

 

 

On 11/29/2024 at 4:22 PM, EveryG said:

Before he was ever in politics, Trump had been accused of rape multiple times-can't say that about any other modern president. 

 

I noticed you didn't respond to this point. Probably better to ignore it, especially since even Trump's first wife accused him of rape around 1993. 

Oh right, a really rich guy gets accused of rape by gold diggers but surprisingly ( not ) he is never convicted of rape.

How come Joe Bloggs the plumber never has multiple accusations of rape? Could it be that he isn't rich?

 

As for Trump's first wife- complete nightmare, IMO. I wouldn't put any dirty tricks past her.

 

BTW, it may have escaped your attention but really rich guys, similar to rock stars, don't need to rape anyone. They have so many groupies they have to beat them off with a stick.

( "beat them off with a stick". get it? )

[thaibeachlovers]

On 11/27/2024 at 4:31 PM, EveryG said:

So Matt Gaetz is gone, but don't worry folks! Trump is still proposing a cabinet full of sexual miscreants and criminals. 

 

Pete Hegseth, the Fox news anchor who is completely unqualified to run the defense department, was also accused of drugging and abducting a woman who woke up in his hotel room and immediately called the police. He paid her off. Cool!

 

Robert Kennedy Jr, a conspiracy theorist with no actual medical training who has already managed to cause deaths in Africa with his anti-vax nonsense, is accused of groping his former live-in nanny when she was 23. Lawsuit is pending. Cool! 

 

Trump even managed to find the rarest of creatures in Linda McMahon: a female accused of sexual misconduct, specifically, that she ignored the sexual abuse of ring boys (much like Jim Jordan turned his head away from sexual abuse). And her husband is a real cool guy, currently under investigation for sex trafficking, where he has been accused of raping, drugging, and taking a dump on a woman's chest and making her lay around in it for 90 minutes. What does this have to do with his wife? The WWE recently found 12 million had been spent in hush money payments to women, and there is no way Linda McMahon didn't know her husband is a vile piece of human garbage. Also, she has zero credentials in education of any kind. 

 

And while Elon Musk will not be in the cabinet, he will be in the administration. Elon apparently showed his penis to an employee who didn't ask to see it, asked for an erotic massage, then paid her $250k as a settlement for his harassment. Also, note he sleeps with employees, and fired 8 women who complained about rampant sexual harassment at his company. 

 

This is all on brand for Trump, who has been accused by 26 different women and has actually been found civilly liable for both battery and the act of rape. Bill Clinton is the only president in modern history credibly accused of sex crimes. Across the political spectrum, of Nixon, Carter, Reagan, both Bushes, and Obama, not one accusation. Trump has been accused of rape a number of times, by his own ex wife, and for years before he entered politics. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations

 

So here you are ladies! Trump said he was going to protect you, whether you like it or not, has decided to protect those who hurt women and children instead. 

 

Now it's very easy to predict that a number of MAGAs will soon be here to gaslight people with common sense, talking about criminal convictions as if they care about that- they actively dismiss Trump's actual felony convictions that resulted from a full jury trial, his numerous civil trial losses, even for rape. Trump actually told us he was a rapist (they just let you do it, grab 'em by the p**sy), surrounds himself with rapists like Epstein, and now he is picking a cabinet of them.

 

MAGA. 

 

Is your hobby keeping a file on all politicians and influential people, like Hoover? You seem overly interested in their sexual activities.

 

On 11/27/2024 at 6:03 PM, EveryG said:

Let me express my utter lack of shock that a Trump supporter has no idea Trump is a convicted felon. 

Trump supporters know of such, but put it down to Dem dirty tricks.

 

We don't care about politically expedient faux indictments by the wokeistas trying to cancel him. In fact, the whole cancel thing for stupidities has been so overused it doesn't even work any more.

 

It's all irrelevant anyway, as any cases that don't go away the next 4 years will be pardoned by POTUS Vance.

[0ffshore360]

3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Is your hobby keeping a file on all politicians and influential people, like Hoover? You seem overly interested in their sexual activities.

 

Trump supporters know of such, but put it down to Dem dirty tricks.

 

We don't care about politically expedient faux indictments by the wokeistas trying to cancel him. In fact, the whole cancel thing for stupidities has been so overused it doesn't even work any more.

 

It's all irrelevant anyway, as any cases that don't go away the next 4 years will be pardoned by POTUS Vance.

"We" ?

 

[thaibeachlovers]

3 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said:

"We" ?

 

As in like minded people.

Being pedantic much?

[frank83628]

 

20 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

It is very much the nature of Donald Trump to select from the bottom of the barrel, he needs absolute fealty, and it's hard to get that from high quality candidates. It's also very possible that he can simply relate to those accused of a sex crime as they have a similar nature to himself. In addition to the sex crime issue there's also just the issue of grossly underqualified and totally inappropriate people for very important positions. 

 

It goes almost without saying that Kash Patel, whom Donald Trump picked over the weekend to lead the F.B.I., is supremely unqualified to direct the nation’s premier federal law enforcement agency.

That’s what even those who know Mr. Patel well are saying: “He’s absolutely unqualified for this job. He’s untrustworthy,” his supervisor in the first Trump administration, Charles Kupperman, told The Wall Street Journal. “It’s an absolute disgrace to American citizens to even consider an individual of this nature.” Mr. Kupperman’s view is hardly an outlier: In Mr. Trump’s first term, both Bill Barr, then the attorney general, and Gina Haspel, then the C.I.A. director, went to great lengths to prevent Mr. Patel from being installed in senior intelligence and law enforcement roles.

 

Yet the Patel selection stands out as more concretely dangerous and worrisome than many of the other questionable Trump choices. The true danger is almost less about Mr. Patel and more about what it says about Mr. Trump and his approach to his new presidency.

 

To understand the full scope of the damage Mr. Patel could inflict, you have to understand how unique, powerful and dangerous the F.B.I. can be — and why a Patel directorship would likely corrupt and bend the institution for decades, even if he only served a few years.

 

Choosing anyone new at this point is concerning because it is a flagrant break with tradition. There is no current vacancy at the head of the F.B.I.: Following J. Edgar Hoover’s decades-long tenure, Congress set into law in 1976 a 10-year term for the F.B.I. director, fireable only for cause. It is meant to isolate the job from political influence, and Christopher Wray — originally nominated by Mr. Trump in 2017 — still has two years left to serve.

 

What this independence illustrates is that the F.B.I. is not, as many MAGA loyalists believe, some liberal bastion of wokeness. No Democrat has ever served as an F.B.I. director. Even Democratic presidents appoint Republican officials to head the bureau, as Mr. Obama and Mr. Clinton both did in their presidencies.

 

Mr. Trump has been clear in what he is trying to do with a nominee like Mr. Patel: He wants to bend and break the bureau and weaponize it against his political enemies and domestic critics. Mr. Patel himself said last year that he hopes to prosecute journalists.

Trump has been clear he wants to bend and break the bureau and weaponise it against political enemies.... you have a link to where he has stated this ?

[frank83628]

14 hours ago, EveryG said:

Lying and misspeaking are two very different things. I'm not going to bother researching this detail because it's irrelevant, but even if true, the facts then don't make Trump look any better:

The victim went into the dressing room willingly, and then Trump raped her.

 

Happy? 

 

 

I noticed you didn't respond to this point. Probably better to ignore it, especially since even Trump's first wife accused him of rape around 1993. 

 

 

 

Then if it were true she should have filed charges, otherwise she just a scorned ex-wife.

 

P,s, Mrs caroll willingly went into the dressing room where she alledges trump assulted her.

(After keeping quiet for 30yrs)