Russia’s economy is doomed

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https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/2003247/russia-economy-inflation-vladimir-putin/amp
 

Vladimir Putin facing economic disaster as Kremlin braces for 'three-digit' hyperinflation

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However, unofficially, there are claims that the real rate is closer to an eye-watering 40%, leaving some to worry that the dark spectre of hyperinflation is back.

[Gweiloman]

12 hours ago, theblether said:

 

You made that up in your head. I know no one that thinks Ukraine is winning. Everybody agrees its a stalemate. 

 

Going back to the topic - if Trump floods Europe with American energy, that will cause serious damage to the Russian economy. 

 

However, I think the war will be over before that energy surge arrives. 

By “everybody” I’m assuming you mean the pro-Ukrainian faction. A stalemate means neither side is gaining any ground. However even a poster on here that is fighting over there concedes that Ukraine is losing ground, slowly but surely. And if you watch news from sources other than western msm, you will also realise that Russia is gaining more ground towards Dnipropetrovsk. But believe whatever you like.
 

 

12 hours ago, Seppius said:

 

Yes, on the battlefield it's stalemate, meanwhile Russia is losing thousands of troops a week still to the meatgrinder, while gaining little land and Ukraine is slowly destroying infrastructure and moral inside Russia on a daily basis.

 

Russia will never win anything out of this conflict now, too late

 

 

Yes, western msm reports that Russia is losing thousands of troops a week. Sounds like you believe those reports. In case you’re interested, I have a bridge for sale…

[transam]

15 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

Yes, because you lack the cognitive ability to recognise it……… 

Really...................😂

[thaibeachlovers]

On 1/21/2025 at 2:10 PM, kwonitoy said:

I don't claim Ukraine is winning, but russia is not winning either.

But I do want Ukraine to provale 

It's 3 years of stalemate that russia did not plan for.

And russia has been throwing everything at this and still can't succeed, so much winning for them

 

Where Ukraine is doing well is a hybridized guerrilla warfare only with drones, slowly picking away at russia's oil infrastructure, manufacturing, weapons stores, etc.

 

As regards WW2 and any war, it's the final outcome not the early innings that count.

How'd that work out for the UK?

Speaking of Britain and WW2, something that not many western people know, having been only taught that the UK and America won the war, is that Russia also won the war, by bleeding the German military to a weakling. Even so, in the Battle of the Bulge, Hitler almost prevailed against the Americans.

The Germans had the best military in the world, but the allies secret weapon snatched defeat from the jaws of victory- Hitler's wrong decisions made Germany lose.

The back story to WW2 is fascinating- without Mitchell the Battle of Britain would have been lost, and without Tommy Flowers the U boats would not have been defeated, and without Churchill, Britain would likely have capitulated, and without Stalin Russia would have lost. So IMO just 4 men saved us from the Nazis. Is that just luck, or divine intervention?

[thaibeachlovers]

14 hours ago, theblether said:

 

You made that up in your head. I know no one that thinks Ukraine is winning. Everybody agrees its a stalemate. 

 

Going back to the topic - if Trump floods Europe with American energy, that will cause serious damage to the Russian economy. 

 

However, I think the war will be over before that energy surge arrives. 

Strange stalemate when Russia is advancing. I always thought a stalemate was when neither side was winning, but I guess it's meaning has changed for the Ukraine war.

[thaibeachlovers]

14 hours ago, theblether said:

However, I think the war will be over before that energy surge arrives. 

On that I can agree with you. Eventually Zelensky will go cap in hand to try and salvage something from the rubble ( or he'll run off to enjoy his loot and someone else will get to do that ).

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1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

On that I can agree with you. Eventually Zelensky will go cap in hand to try and salvage something from the rubble ( or he'll run off to enjoy his loot and someone else will get to do that ).

I think it is you that wishes that, your weird agenda.............

[RuamRudy]

16 hours ago, Seppius said:

 

Yes, on the battlefield it's stalemate, meanwhile Russia is losing thousands of troops a week still to the meatgrinder, while gaining little land and Ukraine is slowly destroying infrastructure and moral inside Russia on a daily basis.

 

Russia will never win anything out of this conflict now, too late

 

 

 

And the repercussions will be felt for decades to come - the Russian youth, desperately needed to propel the nation's industrial base forward against an increasingly more capable world, is being lost. While the rest of the world continues to grow and develop and innovate, Russia persists in continuing this slow motion seppuku.

[theblether]

4 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

 

And the repercussions will be felt for decades to come - the Russian youth, desperately needed to propel the nation's industrial base forward against an increasingly more capable world, is being lost. While the rest of the world continues to grow and develop and innovate, Russia persists in continuing this slow motion seppuku.

 

Russian youth is already lost. The population is forecast to drop by 22 million in the next 25 years. 

[thaibeachlovers]

8 hours ago, theblether said:

 

Russian youth is already lost. The population is forecast to drop by 22 million in the next 25 years. 

For those aware of what AI robotics is going to do that is a good thing ( less to be unemployed ) and will make no difference industrial wise.

It's stupid western countries inviting more in by the thousands that are going to have major societal problems from unemployment. IMO.

[Gweiloman]

On 1/23/2025 at 12:55 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

For those aware of what AI robotics is going to do that is a good thing ( less to be unemployed ) and will make no difference industrial wise.

It's stupid western countries inviting more in by the thousands that are going to have major societal problems from unemployment. IMO.

That’s a very good point that was also raised by an economics professor at the LSE when asked about the population decline of China.

[thaibeachlovers]

23 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

That’s a very good point that was also raised by an economics professor at the LSE when asked about the population decline of China.

AI controlled factories and 3D printing etc will be able to produce whatever the 1% want- no need for the serfs anymore.

 

It's not going to be pretty for those that didn't study hard at school and get qualifications, thinking that they could either get manual work, or go on the dole for life.

What goes around comes around.

[rabas]

Here's your sign.

 

A recent video of Putin meeting heads of academia exposes how isolated and fearful he has become. In it, he calls for Muscovites (an big part of his support base) to receive salaries on par with top Universities!  He then asks how much that is and is shocked by the low answer exclaiming that's  impossible and argues repeatedly. Watch his face and the attendees' laughter.

 

Conclusion, Putin is badly out of touch and is also increasingly concerned about his support.  Ordinary Russian's can't overthrow Putin but their suffering can encourage those who can like the top military leadership whom he has been attacking. 

 

The clock is ticking.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 1/21/2025 at 2:34 PM, RuamRudy said:

This glorious red victory you long for will not be the end. It will be the end of the beginning. 

Are you mentally challenged? I never said anything like that, but never mind, if you get too insulting I'll just put you on ignore. Pity, as you do sometimes post interesting things

[thaibeachlovers]

On 1/21/2025 at 2:10 PM, kwonitoy said:

I don't claim Ukraine is winning, but russia is not winning either.

But I do want Ukraine to provale 

It's 3 years of stalemate that russia did not plan for.

And russia has been throwing everything at this and still can't succeed, so much winning for them

 

Where Ukraine is doing well is a hybridized guerrilla warfare only with drones, slowly picking away at russia's oil infrastructure, manufacturing, weapons stores, etc.

 

As regards WW2 and any war, it's the final outcome not the early innings that count.

How'd that work out for the UK?

If you want to get into the detail, WW2 finished Britain as a great power. It couldn't even get Suez back.

It's lost it's navy for all intents and purposes, it doesn't make military aircraft any more, it has to use US Trident in the subs. The economy is a basket case, the cities are over run with aliens, the once great NHS is in decline. The last time it "won" a conflict was in the Falklands and that was a close thing. All Britain is now is America's poodle, IMO.

 

Britain may have been on the winning side in WW2, but it didn't even get US support post war like Germany and Japan did, and had to give away most of it's empire.

 

Any questions?

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https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2025/01/27/7495467/index.amp
 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/2005845/russian-economy-bankruptcies-ukiraine-war/amp
 

Russian economy meltdown with 'moment of truth' and 'major bankruptcies' looming

 

Russia's economy is "reaching a crisis stage" and facing its "moment of truth", an expert hs warned, with pressure mounting on Vladimir Putin.

Businesses and consumers have been hit by a double whammy of spiralling inflation and high interest rates.

With interest rates at a record high of 21%, businesses in particular are struggling to pay back bank loans, with many reportedly facing bankruptcy.

Anders Åslund is a renowned Swedish economist and author with a detailed understanding of the Russian economy.

In an article for Project Syndicate, he argued Russia was heading for stagflation, meaning high inflation combined with minimal growth.

 

 

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Strained by these factors, the Russian economy is approaching its moment of truth,” Åslund wrote.

"Inflation will continue to rise in 2025, and people will get even angrier over higher food prices.

"Major bankruptcies are looming, and the Russian state cannot afford large bailouts.

 

"Business leaders are fiercely objecting to high interest rates, and the shortage of labor – and soldiers – is reaching a crisis stage."

 

The war in Ukraine is causing both soaring prices and labour shortages.

At the same time the Kremlin is struggling to raise funds for its ballooning defence budget through taxes and bond offerings.

Putin is increasingly having to dip into Russia's National Wealth Fund, whose reserves have plummeted almost 74% from £94 billion to just £25 billion, since the beginning of the war.

A further problem for the Kremlin is the rouble's plunge in value, which is adding to inflationary pressure.

Western sanctions are also hindering the ability of Russian companies to continue producing vital goods.

[Mike_Hunt]

On 1/21/2025 at 9:50 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

Speaking of Britain and WW2, something that not many western people know, having been only taught that the UK and America won the war, is that Russia also won the war, by bleeding the German military to a weakling. Even so, in the Battle of the Bulge, Hitler almost prevailed against the Americans.

The Germans had the best military in the world, but the allies secret weapon snatched defeat from the jaws of victory- Hitler's wrong decisions made Germany lose.

The back story to WW2 is fascinating- without Mitchell the Battle of Britain would have been lost, and without Tommy Flowers the U boats would not have been defeated, and without Churchill, Britain would likely have capitulated, and without Stalin Russia would have lost. So IMO just 4 men saved us from the Nazis. Is that just luck, or divine intervention?

 

A little bit of alternative history here. 

 

1) Supplies from the USA kept the Russians from collapsing in the early days of the war. 

2) Hilter had zero chance in the battle of the Bulge.   He lacked the fuel and the air power.  Once the skies cleared, it was game over. 

3) In the end Germany had no chance. The Allied countries out-produced the Germans. 

[Mike_Hunt]

On 1/22/2025 at 12:55 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

For those aware of what AI robotics is going to do that is a good thing ( less to be unemployed ) and will make no difference industrial wise.

It's stupid western countries inviting more in by the thousands that are going to have major societal problems from unemployment. IMO.

AI does not solve the problem of the inverted population distribution.