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Thailand Unveils Bold Tax Reform as VAT Proposal Faces Backlash


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51 minutes ago, ukrules said:

To simplify things - they're talking about giving corporations a massive tax discount at the expense of private citizens.

Ideally, they should condition the 5% corporate tax cut to a minimum 2.5% increase on all staff (earning below a certain amount) wages.

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1 hour ago, ukrules said:

The OECD calls for minimum 15% tax rates to encourage countries NOT to offer tax breaks to companies whereby they pay little to nothing.

Here it's being twisted into an excuse to lower corporate taxes and screw the people over using VAT at the same time.

To simplify things - they're talking about giving corporations a massive tax discount at the expense of private citizens.

 

at the expense of low paid, poorer and unemployed private citizens. ie the majority.

 

They also plan to reduce the % age of personal income tax.

Low paid workers do not pay any.

 

2 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

possibly reducing the personal income tax cap from 35% to attract global talent.

 

 

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Proposed VAT hike from 7 to 15%?

Without proper welfare to the general public will certainly cause backlash.

Whatever revenue increases, it is highly unlikely to be used to better the public social safety net(other than occasional money handout for vote buying) here.

 

Higher tax simply means more easy billions into the pocket of the 0.1% of the kingdom.

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16 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Support for the corporate tax cut is strong among business leaders

 

No kidding, so is free money lavished on voters, who'd have thought.

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17 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Recognising the backlash, Prime Minister Paetongtarn Shinawatra has distanced the government from the controversial VAT hike, signalling it may not proceed.

 

Dont the ministers talk to each other before announcing reforms/policy?

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18 minutes ago, sungod said:

Dont the ministers talk to each other before announcing reforms/policy?

 

Of course not. They introduce policies for the benefit of their own bank balances, not the benefit of the electorate.

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16 hours ago, ukrules said:

The OECD calls for minimum 15% tax rates to encourage countries NOT to offer tax breaks to companies whereby they pay little to nothing.

Here it's being twisted into an excuse to lower corporate taxes and screw the people over using VAT at the same time.

To simplify things - they're talking about giving corporations a massive tax discount at the expense of private citizens.

 

They want  to keep the filthy rich happy.

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22 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Prime Minister Paetongtarn Shinawatra has distanced the government from the controversial VAT hike, signalling it may not proceed.

Ah! I see. The Finance Minister is independent of the Government. I thought he was a member of the Cabinet. Silly me......😋

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here is a very radical suggestion:-

How about Thais paying some form of ta on their income?  How about every Thai with an income above the minimum wage paying an income tax of 20% on any income above this?
At the moment, I believe that less than 25% of working Thais pay any form of income tax.

Without any revenue, how can any government function?

Has there ever been , or will there ever bee a government with the courage o introduce such a  from of universal income tax?

Without a tax base, Thailand will never become a 'developed country'

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50 minutes ago, Robin said:

here is a very radical suggestion:-

How about Thais paying some form of ta on their income?  How about every Thai with an income above the minimum wage paying an income tax of 20% on any income above this?
At the moment, I believe that less than 25% of working Thais pay any form of income tax.

Without any revenue, how can any government function?

Has there ever been , or will there ever bee a government with the courage o introduce such a  from of universal income tax?

Without a tax base, Thailand will never become a 'developed country'

4 million Thais pay income tax (almost all employed by the state). Less than 10% of the registered work force.

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52% of Thais are self employed, mainly in majority cash flow businesses. Most are not registered for income tax, and Thailand would have to employ another million on the public sector payroll to be able to assess their incomes!

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On 12/17/2024 at 8:44 AM, Robin said:

here is a very radical suggestion:-

How about Thais paying some form of ta on their income?  How about every Thai with an income above the minimum wage paying an income tax of 20% on any income above this?
At the moment, I believe that less than 25% of working Thais pay any form of income tax.

Without any revenue, how can any government function?

Has there ever been , or will there ever bee a government with the courage o introduce such a  from of universal income tax?

Without a tax base, Thailand will never become a 'developed country'


I am guessing that’s why they are looking at the VAT rate increase - an easily implemented scheme with broad capture.
 

In the thread, 4 million Thai income tax payers is mentioned, even allowing for the economic status of Thailand, that is ridiculously low. 

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6 hours ago, rickudon said:

52% of Thais are self employed, mainly in majority cash flow businesses. Most are not registered for income tax, and Thailand would have to employ another million on the public sector payroll to be able to assess their incomes!

 

Thai's refuse to follow any laws or rules, so I see no reason why they would pay taxes either, which is why the government is trying to push for a full digital economy. No more "cash", means no more hiding from taxes.

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5 hours ago, realfunster said:


I am guessing that’s why they are looking at the VAT rate increase - an easily implemented scheme with broad capture.
 

In the thread, 4 million Thai income tax payers is mentioned, even allowing for the economic status of Thailand, that is ridiculously low. 

 

The devil is in the detail.

 

The average wage in Thailand is 15k Baht per month, that's 190k per year. The personal deduction for tax is 60k plus the first 150k of income is zero rated, that totals 210k. All of that means that on average, half the population doesn't make enough money to qualify to pay tax.

 

The 4 million that do pay tax are part of the 11 million who file tax returns, 4 million seeking refunds, 2 to 3 million filing null returns. All of a sudden that 4 million who pay tax makes more sense, The workforce is 38 million, 50% don't make enough money to file a return, leaves 9.5 million, 4 million paying tax, 4 million seeking refunds and 2 to 3 filing null returns.

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