Why some of us did not get COVID symptoms …even though we were exposed.

[bradiston]

28 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Nope, but I did buy Ivermectin just in case I or my loved ones would get symptoms,  But I never needed to take it, and - contrary to what you supposed me to be in a previous post - I am not a 'young and fit' guy that spend the pandemic hysteria time in Bali or other high-flyer place.  

I am a healthy (never sick) 67-year old living in the sticks in South- Isaan, and I waited it out there. 

Also I have deliberately never taken any vaccine my entire life (just like my 3 healthy - never sick - children that are now adult).  Likewise, I never take any allopathic drugs or 'necessary supplements', and will only make use of such when actually needed in the absence of natural remedies.  

Sickness is one of the least understood bodily states, and in many cases it is your body getting rid of toxins, which of course should be supported instead of being suppressed. 

Excellent post, thanks. I'm 74. I have afib, but that's not a major problem. Had it for about 15 years. Treated it myself for 10 then for insurance purposes, switched to medicating. Yeah, I know, sounds illogical, but ... I stayed most of the time in Pattaya which was completely deserted, so the pandemic had it's pluses!

 

I see the WHO is once again pressing the Chinese government to release all their data on the outbreak. What chance, I wonder?

[Dan O]

2 hours ago, Airalee said:

All of your “credible sources” are compromised liars.

 

 

There are many credible sources and I didn't select any)  so check yourself.

 

I wrote that there are credible sources on both sides of the issues and you can find them easily.   An ex-chiropractor is not a credible sources in this instance.

 

I never said i was pro or con on the issue. I did work for 25 years as a regulatory compliance agent in the medical industry so have some knowledge of the information available, Do you?  Reading comprehension is a skill you can learn, try it some time.  

[Dan O]

2 hours ago, Airalee said:

I dated a nurse who worked on the Covid ward of one of the preeminent hospitals in Bangkok.  She said to me (before the vaccine mandates and narrative directives)…..

 

”I don’t think Covid is as dangerous as they say it is.  All the people here do is chill and cough a little bit”

 

After the directives … she wouldn’t say anything.

 

I even visited her (unannounced) on her ward and it was mostly empty.  I was quickly ushered out.

 

I also continued to visit my doctors during the pandemic (at a different hospital)…it was a ghost town.

 

There are multitudes of videos from the US (obviously not on YouTube) where people basically crashed numerous hospitals and filmed the empty corridors and wards all while the MSM was going on about hospitals overflowing and people on stretchers in the hallways.

 

Meanwhile, nurses from all over the country had ample time to choreograph dances that they posted to TikTok.

 

So heroic 🙄

I call bs on your story.  Show some proof or its a bs rumor that your promoting 

[Flyguy330]

1 hour ago, Red Phoenix said:

I am a healthy (never sick) 67-year old living in the sticks in South- Isaan, and I waited it out there. 

Also I have deliberately never taken any vaccine my entire life (just like my 3 healthy - never sick - children that are now adult).

No vaccines? EVER?

So when you were a newborn, did you tell the Dr's to lay off the vaccines for you?

Nope - you've had vaccines matey.

 

There was a lot of negative publicity about Whooping Cough vaccine back in the mid 80's and we decided not to vaccinate our first born. He consequently caught whooping cough. I remember the gut wrenching sound of him struggling to suck in air (that's where the name of the illness comes from). He was only 3 years old IIRC.

We took him to the Doc and I was told not to panic when he had an attack - just stand back and let him breath on his own.

He had a coughing attack just after our return home. You could hear every intake breath weakening with each racking spluttering coughing out breath, until he finally stopped breathing and began turning blue - at which point I intervened with mouth to mouth.

Got him breathing again.

I didn't catch his virus - because I had been VACCINATED as a baby.

 

I'll ask you one question - though at your age of 67 this might be less relevant - if they announced tomorrow that an effective vaccine for HIV had been developed and proven, would you refuse it? Would you stop your wife and kids from taking it? Would you ridicule the street walkers and bar girls for taking it?

[jas007]

6 minutes ago, Dan O said:

I call bs on your story.  Show some proof or its a bs rumor that your promoting 

Proof?  Anybody who was paying attention to the news back they saw all this happening.  Not necessarily the part about the nurse in Thailand, but everything else was available online.  

 

Back in the US, I went to have an MRI and right in the front office of the place there was a big sign that said "Don't believe everything you read in the newspapers."  Clearly, the people running that place knew what was going on.

 

And the empty hospitals could be seen on YouTube.  Ditto for the dancing nurses who apparently had nothing better to do. 

[Airalee]

20 minutes ago, Dan O said:

I call bs on your story.  Show some proof or its a bs rumor that your promoting 

Put on your big girl pants and do your own research.

[ericbj]

6 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

As we age our immune system begins to decline. Antibiotics I have taken for UTI's and contaminated shellfish have worked wonders for me.  The trick is to match the right antibiotic for each particular situation. 

 

I agree.

But would add this:
Antibiotics have likely saved millions of lives.  (An uncle of mine suffocated to death from quinsy at the age of 21 in 1925 - likely avoided with penicillin).

But antibiotics have probably contributed to the premature death of hundreds of millions.  By the immeasurably slow process of undermining the immune system.

 

Why?  Because administered orally they habitually cause dysbiosis of the gut;  and our intestinal flora are the first line of defence of the immune system.  (The second line of defence is the 80% or so of the immune system's killer cells that are said to hang out, every time one has a meal, on the other side of the intestinal wall.

 

Make sure to consume live (unpasteurised) fermented foods after a course of antibiotics.

 

Oral antibiotics are not the sole culprit.  Blame must also go to ultra-processed industrial foods containing bacterial-killing preservatives, the chemically-contaminated nutrient deficient products of modern farming, excess sugar and lack of prebiotic soluble fibre in present-day diets, etc.

 

Finally: antibiotics encourage fungal infections.  They are these days synthesized, but mostly derived from fungal secretions.

[Hawaiian]

44 minutes ago, ericbj said:

 

I agree.

But would add this:
Antibiotics have likely saved millions of lives.  (An uncle of mine suffocated to death from quinsy at the age of 21 in 1925 - likely avoided with penicillin).

But antibiotics have probably contributed to the premature death of hundreds of millions.  By the immeasurably slow process of undermining the immune system.

 

Why?  Because administered orally they habitually cause dysbiosis of the gut;  and our intestinal flora are the first line of defence of the immune system.  (The second line of defence is the 80% or so of the immune system's killer cells that are said to hang out, every time one has a meal, on the other side of the intestinal wall.

 

Make sure to consume live (unpasteurised) fermented foods after a course of antibiotics.

 

Oral antibiotics are not the sole culprit.  Blame must also go to ultra-processed industrial foods containing bacterial-killing preservatives, the chemically-contaminated nutrient deficient products of modern farming, excess sugar and lack of prebiotic soluble fibre in present-day diets, etc.

 

Finally: antibiotics encourage fungal infections.  They are these days synthesized, but mostly derived from fungal secretions.

Good that you mentioned fermented foods.  We consume a lot of won bok and daikon kim chi which I make with fermented gochujang chili paste and loads of ginger and garlic.  I also add fresh blueberries to Fage Greek Yogurt for dessert or quick snacks.  As the household cook, I make sure processed foods have a limited place on our menu.

I didn't know about fungal infections.  So far I have not been plagued by them. 

[Hawaiian]

1 hour ago, bradiston said:

Excellent post, thanks. I'm 74. I have afib, but that's not a major problem. Had it for about 15 years. Treated it myself for 10 then for insurance purposes, switched to medicating. Yeah, I know, sounds illogical, but ... I stayed most of the time in Pattaya which was completely deserted, so the pandemic had it's pluses!

 

I see the WHO is once again pressing the Chinese government to release all their data on the outbreak. What chance, I wonder?

It will be a cold day in hell before the Chinese cooperate.  Just look how they put off WHO investigators until they could destroy all possible evidence of a coverup.

[jas007]

4 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

It will be a cold day in hell before the Chinese cooperate.  Just look how they put off WHO investigators until they could destroy all possible evidence of a coverup.

Cover up?  From all the fake Chinese videos dry the very early days of the pandemic, it rather seems like they were in on it.  What would be the point of covering up a lab "leak"?  Where there's a lab, there can be a leak.  The risk was assumed.

 

And for anyone who hasn't seen the fake videos, they should people just dropping dead like flies while walking down the street.  

 

I'm not sure if it was Chinese or not, but somewhere I saw a video of a bunch off people supposedly in body bags.  But they forgot to edit out one portion where some guy sticks his head out of the body bag to smoke a cigarette.  

[dinsdale]

2 hours ago, dinsdale said:

This was early in the piece when Campbell supported vaccination. He changed his view on this when the truth started to come out. I'm wondering if this post will stay up but it certainly is interesting.

 

Testing the waters. After I posted this I went out and just got back and it's still up. I'm amazed. When this came out no way would this have not been immediately taken down.

[dinsdale]

dbl post

 

[Hawaiian]

2 minutes ago, jas007 said:

Cover up?  From all the fake Chinese videos dry the very early days of the pandemic, it rather seems like they were in on it.  What would be the point of covering up a lab "leak"?  Where there's a lab, there can be a leak.  The risk was assumed.

 

And for anyone who hasn't seen the fake videos, they should people just dropping dead like flies while walking down the street.  

 

I'm not sure if it was Chinese or not, but somewhere I saw a video of a bunch off people supposedly in body bags.  But they forgot to edit out one portion where some guy sticks his head out of the body bag to smoke a cigarette.  

Listening to Xi talk, the Chinese under the CCP are perfectionists at everything they do including having research labs that are accident proof.  Yeah, right.

[Airalee]

8 minutes ago, jas007 said:

Cover up?  From all the fake Chinese videos dry the very early days of the pandemic, it rather seems like they were in on it.  What would be the point of covering up a lab "leak"?  Where there's a lab, there can be a leak.  The risk was assumed.

 

And for anyone who hasn't seen the fake videos, they should people just dropping dead like flies while walking down the street.  

 

I'm not sure if it was Chinese or not, but somewhere I saw a video of a bunch off people supposedly in body bags.  But they forgot to edit out one portion where some guy sticks his head out of the body bag to smoke a cigarette.  

I haven’t seen any of those videos….where can I find them?  Would be interesting to see all the “Covid is obviously a scam” videos from back then.

 

My favorite video was when Fauci was vaccinated and subsequently interviewed (the next day?) about how he felt after vaccination.  He said something along the words of “I feel fine but my shoulder is a little sore” and then proceeded to rub the opposite shoulder than the one which took the supposed jab.

[dinsdale]

1 hour ago, bradiston said:

But the anti Vax approach became embroiled in conspiracy theories

People who did not trust the mRNA tech were all tarred with the same brush. They were demonized. You are an antivaxxer conspiracist. Complete fabricated nonsense. It's the mRNA bit that wasn't trusted as with the propaganda that went with this will save us all.

[Patong2021]

On 12/29/2024 at 5:39 AM, jas007 said:

Some of us never succumbed to the jab propaganda.  

 

I admit, they had me fooled for the first month or so. I didn't know what to think.  Fortunately for me, no jab was available early on.  And by the time it was, I had read enough to question the narrative.  Too much valid information was being suppressed.  And the narrative was almost comical.

 

I used to have Twitter back when it was Twitter.  Back then, you could set your feed to show all posts tagged in a certain way.  And you could refresh your feed as often as you wanted.  Anyway,  It became obvious.  Information was being deliberately deleted. Someone would post something, but that post wasn't immediately deleted.  Sometimes, it took them a minute or so.  And then it was gone.  And yet why would they delete true information? 

 

Someone had an agenda.  I won't waste people's time at this point.  It's all ancient history as far as I'm concerned.  

You bet there was an agenda. I heard it was  put together at the Masonic Lodge and that the illiterati faction of the anti illuminati patriotic front  tried to stop it . I heard from someone who saw it on the internet, that  taking special enemas 2-3X a day protects from Covid. Did you try  an enema? You can probably find the procedure on X.

[Patong2021]

14 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

People who did not trust the mRNA tech were all tarred with the same brush. They were demonized. You are an antivaxxer conspiracist. Complete fabricated nonsense. It's the mRNA bit that wasn't trusted as with the propaganda that went with this will save us all.

 

For sure, because ignorant uneducated  buffoons who had no understanding of the technology were so scared and frightened that  concocted a parallel universie based upon invented facts. Smarter people exploited their ignorance and sold them various potions and special cures. Even the pollow salesman knew what to do.  The really smart people used enemas to ward off Covid. I heard from someone who saw it on the internet, the only way to protect yourself from Covid was is if you  give yourself enemas 2-3X a day. You can probably find it on X. You should try enemas. As many as you can handle.

[jas007]

3 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

You bet there was an agenda. I heard it was  put together at the Masonic Lodge and that the illiterati faction of the anti illuminati patriotic front  tried to stop it . I heard from someone who saw it on the internet, that  taking special enemas 2-3X a day protects from Covid. Did you try  an enema? You can probably find the procedure on X.

If you know what I know, you wouldn't be spouting nonsense.  But that's OK. Believe what you want and hope you stay out of the way of whatever they have planned next. 

[dinsdale]

3 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

For sure, because ignorant uneducated  buffoons who had no understanding of the technology were so scared and frightened that  concocted a parallel universie based upon invented facts. Smarter people exploited their ignorance and sold them various potions and special cures. Even the pollow salesman knew what to do.  The really smart people used enemas to ward off Covid. I heard from someone who saw it on the internet, the only way to protect yourself from Covid was is if you  give yourself enemas 2-3X a day. You can probably find it on X. You should try enemas. As many as you can handle.

Thank you for posting an excellent example of a sheeple response.

[Patong2021]

30 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Testing the waters. After I posted this I went out and just got back and it's still up. I'm amazed. When this came out no way would this have not been immediately taken down.

It's because everyone knows that the proponents are mentally ill and a lost cause. They congregate and  exchange their demented non scientific nonsensical idiocies. So many of them were begging for  the vaccine on their death beds that it became a standing joke in the ICUs.

[Patong2021]

5 minutes ago, jas007 said:

If you know what I know, you wouldn't be spouting nonsense.  But that's OK. Believe what you want and hope you stay out of the way of whatever they have planned next. 

Oh for sure, you know the secret. You are part of the national resistance and have worked diligently to protect the world form the master plan to enact world domination. 

[Patong2021]

5 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Thank you for posting an excellent example of a sheeple response.

Anyone who disagrees with  the mob chant is a sheeple. The sheeple are those who join a collective of the uneducated, with the sole motivation their fear and a lack of comprehension of events and  science that  is too complex for them. It is an illustration of why much of the population is incapable of making intelligent decisions and are doomed to a lower socio economic status.

 

[jas007]

5 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

Oh for sure, you know the secret. You are part of the national resistance and have worked diligently to protect the world form the master plan to enact world domination. 

Let's just say I know what I know. I don't need a "national resistance" to tell me what to think.  

 

Are you a real person, or just a BOT programed to be slightly stupid? 

[dinsdale]

5 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

It's because everyone knows that the proponents are mentally ill and a lost cause. They congregate and  exchange their demented non scientific nonsensical idiocies. So many of them were begging for  the vaccine on their death beds that it became a standing joke in the ICUs.

Fair enough. There are people who don't have their heads buried in the sand, there are those that will accept they're wrong and take their head out of the sand and then there's the obstinate that believes100% in what they are told is the truth. You are the latter.

[Hawaiian]

2 minutes ago, jas007 said:

Let's just say I know what I know. I don't need a "national resistance" to tell me what to think.  

 

Are you a real person, or just a BOT programed to be slightly stupid? 

This forum would be awfully boring without the entertaining clowns, although I've seen funnier clowns in the circus.

[Airalee]

1 minute ago, dinsdale said:

Fair enough. There are people who don't have their heads buried in the sand, there are those that will accept they're wrong and take their head out of the sand and then there's the obstinate that believes100% in what they are told is the truth. You are the latter.

Worse than the latter.  Its responses were nothing but gaslighting and straw man fallacies such as “getting an enema”.  These people were the worst of them all.

[bradiston]

41 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

People who did not trust the mRNA tech were all tarred with the same brush. They were demonized. You are an antivaxxer conspiracist. Complete fabricated nonsense. It's the mRNA bit that wasn't trusted as with the propaganda that went with this will save us all.

Whereas we are sheeple, morons, idiots, spineless, clueless, etc etc. What a pointless argument. If you don't want the vaccines, why create hell about them? Just do as you please. The rest is just a neverending, unwinnable argument.

[rattlesnake]

8 hours ago, Paradise Pete said:

 

Have you ever taken an antibiotic? If so, why wasn't your immune system good enough? And how do you feel about Ivermectin?

 

False equivalence fallacy: though vaccines and antibiotics are indeed both produced by pharmaceutical companies, their similarity ends there, the latter being a treatment. Of course I will take the required treatment for a given ailment, and that includes ivermectin, though my stash has been left untouched for several years as so far I have never caught Covid.

[bradiston]

Just now, rattlesnake said:

 

False equivalence fallacy: though vaccines and antibiotics are indeed both produced by pharmaceutical companies, their similarity ends there, the latter being a treatment. Of course I will take the required treatment for a given ailment, and that includes ivermectin, though my stash has been left untouched for several years as so far I have never caught Covid.

Then it was never used? Either for prevention or treatment? I thought it was for prevention too? Maybe you didn't trust it.

[dinsdale]

14 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

Anyone who disagrees with  the mob chant is a sheeple. The sheeple are those who join a collective of the uneducated, with the sole motivation their fear and a lack of comprehension of events and  science that  is too complex for them. It is an illustration of why much of the population is incapable of making intelligent decisions and are doomed to a lower socio economic status.

 

Exactly. Great cut and paste. The sheeple believed the narrative and still do.