Yes, Virginia, Donald J. Trump WILL be the first convicted felon to become U.S. president

[TedG]

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

Hmm, while denying you're maga you come up with many maga talking points.

Whats a MAGA talking point?

[stevenl]

2 minutes ago, TedG said:

It’s anyone who disagrees with a leftie.

So what is the definition of a leftie?

[TedG]

Just now, stevenl said:

So what is the definition of a leftie?

A left wing troll who spews dumb talking points.

[Yellowtail]

11 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Wasnt he impeached once for stating that the bidens were receiving money from Ukraine for no reason they could explain, and that an investigation was needed? How did that work out for the left?😂

Good thing Biden got the prosecutor fired...

[jerrymahoney]

To me, MAGA means Make America Great AGAIN so that implies that America once was great, it ain't great now, and some at least feel they have the way to make it great once more. Following the Central Park 5 incident, Donald J. Trump personally placed this Newsday ad May 1 , 1989:

 

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/6131533/trumpdeathpenaltyad05011989.pdf

 

 

[G_Money]

Levin said it best about the kangaroo court.

 

 

[Yellowtail]

31 minutes ago, stevenl said:

So what is the definition of a leftie?

It's anyone that calls someone they disagree with a MAGA cult member

[gamb00ler]

13 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Actually, he was acquitted twice of two lame duck attempts to impeach him.  Yes.  Fact.

The voice of authority with none.  You need to refresh/reread what impeachment means in the US.

[Etaoin Shrdlu]

In Trump's first impeachment trial, the Senate voted 52-48 to acquit.

 

In Trump's second impeachment trial, the Senate voted 57-43 to convict. He remained in office because it takes 67 senators' votes in favor of conviction to remove a president from office. All Democrats, all Independents and seven Republicans voted for conviction. So it is fair to say that the majority of senators in the second impeachment trial voted to remove him from office. It just wasn't enough to do so. 

[Liverpool Lou]

25 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

13 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Actually, he was acquitted twice of two lame duck attempts to impeach him.  Yes.  Fact.

The voice of authority with none.  You need to refresh/reread what impeachment means in the US.

The voice of authority with less than none.  You need to refresh/reread what impeachment acquittal means in the US.

[Liverpool Lou]

11 hours ago, jimmybcool said:

13 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

He was acquitted twice, i.e. he was not impeached, there were two failed attempts to impeach him.

 

Actually he was impeached twice.  The outcome doesn't change the fact he was impeached. 

Actually, what posters here are trying to imply is that he was successfully impeached twice and convicted.  He was not.  Their implications do not change the fact that he was acquitted twice.   The impeachment proceedings were nothing more than unjustified and unsuccessful accusations. 

[Hawaiian]

46 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

The voice of authority with none.  You need to refresh/reread what impeachment means in the US.

He still hasn't found anyone to agree with his flawed definition.

[stevenl]

13 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Actually, what posters here are trying to imply is that he was successfully impeached twice and convicted.  He was not.  Their implications do not change the fact that he was acquitted twice.   The impeachment proceedings were nothing more than unjustified and unsuccessful accusations. 

Just stick to what posters are saying, not what you think they're saying.

 

You're wrong, you know it, just don't want to admit it.

[Bruce1054]

On 1/4/2025 at 12:42 PM, Jingthing said:

Under an odd quirk of New York state law, a person found guilty of a felony or many felonies as in the case of the president elect, can't technically be an actual CONVICTED felon until sentencing.

Many have assumed he had dodge that bullet.
He has not.

The sentencing is scheduled for January 10.

His inauguration is January 20.

Ipso facto -- convicted felon president.

So he can add that to his honors such as first president ever impeached TWICE.

 

Give it a rest FFS. <removed>

 

 

[Jingthing]

Just now, Bruce1054 said:

Give it a rest FFS. <removed>

 

 

None of your bidness.

[Jingthing]

28 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Actually, what posters here are trying to imply is that he was successfully impeached twice and convicted.  He was not.  Their implications do not change the fact that he was acquitted twice.   The impeachment proceedings were nothing more than unjustified and unsuccessful accusations. 

Not trying to imply he was convicted. But he was impeached twice and that will stand in history. Why do you insist of belmg so thick about this?

[Yellowtail]

59 minutes ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

In Trump's first impeachment trial, the Senate voted 52-48 to acquit.

 

In Trump's second impeachment trial, the Senate voted 57-43 to convict. He remained in office because it takes 67 senators' votes in favor of conviction to remove a president from office. All Democrats, all Independents and seven Republicans voted for conviction. So it is fair to say that the majority of senators in the second impeachment trial voted to remove him from office. It just wasn't enough to do so. 

What was the vote to impeach? 

 

How many Republicans that voted to impeach or convict are still in office? 

 

Liz and Dick Cheney now heroes to the left, how funny is that? 

 

America voted not guilty. 

[Yellowtail]

We all know Democrats will do all they can to stop Trump from doing what the American people want, but I think Trump learned a bit in his first term, and the legacy media, the propaganda wing of the Democrat party, already shot their wad and no longer carry the sway they did. Everyone paying attention knows they are liars. 

[Wrwest]

On 1/4/2025 at 12:44 PM, jas007 said:

And everyone knows it's just a nonsense political move that doesn't mean much. 

"And everyone knows" ... assume makes an ass out of u and me ... Thanks for your personal opinion but I'll stick with the findings of the citizen Grand Jury that there was enough evidence to warrant a trial. And the finding of Guilt by the separate citizen Trial Jury. Thus is the documented history for all time.

[Yellowtail]

Just now, Wrwest said:

"And everyone knows" ... assume makes an ass out of u and me ... Thanks for your personal opinion but I'll stick with the findings of the citizen Grand Jury that there was enough evidence to warrant a trial. And the finding of Guilt by the separate citizen Trial Jury. Thus is the documented history for all time.

Well, you're half right. 

 

What was he found guilty of again? Oh yeah, he reimbursed his attorney for securing a non-disclosure agreement and called it a legal expense.

[RPCVguy]

On 1/4/2025 at 12:55 PM, SunnyinBangrak said:

The whole point was to prevent him from becoming President. Now the real jury delivered their landslide verdict on Nov 5th, I suspect this bent judge is just doing this so he can keep the gag orders in place to stop Trump truthbombing on his truth social about the judges bribes by proxy thanks to bringing this nonsensical case.

 

WILL CONGRESS SUPPLY THE CONSTITUTIONALLY REQUIRED REMEDY?

January 6th Election Certification might academically agree that the election was won by DJ Trump, BUT he can not legally be sworn into office UNLESS AND UNTIL both the House and the Senate by a 2/3rds majority vote to remove this disability. (I suspect that Congress will duck their mandated role, just as SCOTUS ducked its role last year.)

Consider Trump's own recent acknowledgement of constitutional requirements: "Musk can't be president because he wasn't born in the USA"
By the words of the 14th Amendment, how can someone who supported an insurrection be sworn into office? Even if the election is certified?

Note the adjudication so far:

♦ The House voted the 2nd impeachment (bipartisan)

♦ The Senate voted 57-43 for conviction (bipartisan)

♦ The House Select Committee voted unanimously to indict (refer Trump for potential criminal prosecution) DJ Trump for 4 charges: Obstruction of an Official Proceeding; Conspiracy to Defraud the United States; Conspiracy to Make a False Statement and "Incite," "Assist" or "Aid and Comfort" an Insurrection. (bipartisan)

♦ Section 3 of the 14th Amendment says candidates are disallowed if they've "engaged in insurrection." Both the Colorado justices and Maine Secretary Bellows said Trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election, which ended with an attack on the U.S. Capitol, fit that description. Significantly. the Colorado Supreme Court heard an appeal, but upheld that decision.

♦ Then the U.S. Supreme Court ruled unanimously that individual states cannot remove former President Donald Trump from their ballots based on the 14th Amendment.
BUT SCOTUS DID NOT RULE ON TRUMP'S ELIGIBILITY TO AGAIN HOLD OFFICE.

Of note by former Federal Prosecutor Glenn Kirschner:

https://youtu.be/5OCN-OvYsW0

[Yellowtail]

15 minutes ago, RPCVguy said:

WILL CONGRESS SUPPLY THE CONSTITUTIONALLY REQUIRED REMEDY?

January 6th Election Certification might academically agree that the election was won by DJ Trump, BUT he can not legally be sworn into office UNLESS AND UNTIL both the House and the Senate by a 2/3rds majority vote to remove this disability. (I suspect that Congress will duck their mandated role, just as SCOTUS ducked its role last year.)

Consider Trump's own recent acknowledgement of constitutional requirements: "Musk can't be president because he wasn't born in the USA"
By the words of the 14th Amendment, how can someone who supported an insurrection be sworn into office? Even if the election is certified?

Note the adjudication so far:

♦ The House voted the 2nd impeachment (bipartisan)

♦ The Senate voted 57-43 for conviction (bipartisan)

♦ The House Select Committee voted unanimously to indict (refer Trump for potential criminal prosecution) DJ Trump for 4 charges: Obstruction of an Official Proceeding; Conspiracy to Defraud the United States; Conspiracy to Make a False Statement and "Incite," "Assist" or "Aid and Comfort" an Insurrection. (bipartisan)

♦ Section 3 of the 14th Amendment says candidates are disallowed if they've "engaged in insurrection." Both the Colorado justices and Maine Secretary Bellows said Trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election, which ended with an attack on the U.S. Capitol, fit that description. Significantly. the Colorado Supreme Court heard an appeal, but upheld that decision.

♦ Then the U.S. Supreme Court ruled unanimously that individual states cannot remove former President Donald Trump from their ballots based on the 14th Amendment.
BUT SCOTUS DID NOT RULE ON TRUMP'S ELIGIBILITY TO AGAIN HOLD OFFICE.

Of note by former Federal Prosecutor Glenn Kirschner:

https://youtu.be/5OCN-OvYsW0

That's hilarious 

[scorecard]

On 1/4/2025 at 12:44 PM, jas007 said:

And everyone knows it's just a nonsense political move that doesn't mean much. 

 Can't agree to that. Never.

[Neeranam]

On 1/4/2025 at 1:39 PM, John Drake said:

when he should be getting hammered on going back on his word and previous campaign promises.

He's not president yet. 

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

He's not president yet. 

The left and the legacy media, (the propaganda wing of the Democrat party) will do all they can to stop Trump from doing what the American people want and elected him to do, and then they'll blame Trump for not getting it done.

 

Trump has a mandate for many of the policies he wants to put in place, and the most people know the legacy media are liars and will not buy into their nonsense this time around.

[Yellowtail]

7 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

He's not president yet. 

Yet the left is propagandizing every day with new reports of Trump reneging on his promises, all based on "leaked" information from anonymous sources close to Trump.  

[spidermike007]

I think it's safe to say that he'll not only be the first convicted felon, but he'll also be the first lifelong criminal, huckster, scam artist, and a man who's made billions off of defrauding small contractors and investors.

 

Quite an honor for the leader of the nation. 

[EveryG]

4 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

The left and the legacy media, (the propaganda wing of the Democrat party) will do all they can to stop Trump from doing what the American people want and elected him to do, and then they'll blame Trump for not getting it done.

 

Trump has a mandate for many of the policies he wants to put in place, and the most people know the legacy media are liars and will not buy into their nonsense this time around.

And no matter how bigly he fails, you will find your scapegoats in the boogeymen that you have created in your imagination. Right now we have 2 parties playing the same game, which is counting on their sycophants to tow the party line. Democrats will scream at Trump's every move and MAGAs will defend him despite the fact that he has no vision other than staying out of prison. I dare say between the two of you, the US future looks bleak. 

[Dan O]

4 hours ago, jas007 said:

I don't know what MAGA "talking points" you're referring to, but I think most of what I write makes sense.  

 

For what it's worth, I didn't even vote in the last election.  I'm 73 years old and can count on four fingers the number of times in my life that I've been inside a voting booth.  I see it as a waste of time, for the most part.  

Yet you proclaim yourself knowledgeable about what's actually going on in America and who the candidates really are and what they stand for. Right.   

[Hawaiian]

14 minutes ago, EveryG said:

And no matter how bigly he fails, you will find your scapegoats in the boogeymen that you have created in your imagination. Right now we have 2 parties playing the same game, which is counting on their sycophants to tow the party line. Democrats will scream at Trump's every move and MAGAs will defend him despite the fact that he has no vision other than staying out of prison. I dare say between the two of you, the US future looks bleak. 

Dirty politics at work.  Nothing new.