Social Media Posted January 15 Posted January 15 Former England rugby star and BBC presenter Ugo Monye is facing severe financial challenges as he battles bankruptcy proceedings over an unpaid tax bill of nearly £200,000. The financial troubles surfaced after his company, Show Me The Monye, was liquidated, leaving unpaid taxes and National Insurance contributions. According to records from Companies House, HMRC obtained a winding-up order against Monye's business in December 2023. The company, established in 2012 to promote physical well-being, owed £108,562 in corporation tax and £72,967 in other taxes by the end of June 2022. In a further blow, HMRC filed a bankruptcy petition against Monye in the High Court on December 4, 2023. Monye's financial difficulties have unfolded after his tenure on the BBC's "A Question of Sport" ended prematurely. The long-running sports quiz show was revamped with Monye, Sam Quek, and Paddy McGuinness leading the program. However, the revamp lasted just two years before being axed, leaving Monye without a significant platform. Monye is not the only former England rugby star to face financial distress. Lawrence Dallaglio, a World Cup-winning former England captain, is also grappling with a significant tax burden. Liquidators have claimed Dallaglio owes £423,570.43, a figure that includes money loaned from his company, Lawrence Dallaglio Limited. Documents reveal that Dallaglio has not responded to demands for repayment, despite liquidators seeking funds to address debts, including £290,000 and £64,000 owed to HMRC. Other creditors include Parker Cars Limited, owed £1,891.82, and Coutts Bank, owed £24,000. The liquidators' report detailed financial losses incurred by Dallaglio’s company, including missed payments from ITV during the Rugby World Cup. The broadcaster invoked an insolvency clause, withholding payments for work during the tournament's knockout stage after the company entered liquidation. These high-profile cases highlight the financial risks faced by professional athletes transitioning to new careers after their sporting days. Despite their success on the field, both Monye and Dallaglio are now contending with the significant financial and legal pressures that accompany unpaid tax debts. MailOnline reached out to Monye for comment, but no response has been provided at this time. Based on a report by Daily Mail 2024-01-16
soalbundy Posted January 15 Posted January 15 An apt post considering the AN headline regarding expat taxation. 2
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted January 16 Popular Post Posted January 16 4 hours ago, Social Media said: These high-profile cases highlight the financial risks faced by professional athletes transitioning to new careers after their sporting days. Despite their success on the field, both Monye and Dallaglio are now contending with the significant financial and legal pressures that accompany unpaid tax debts. I know a guy who made a fortune providing financial services to top tier football players. He commented, but for the ability to kick a ball and run fast, most would be otherwise carrying a hod on a building site. 1 1 2
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted January 16 Popular Post Posted January 16 32 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: I know a guy who made a fortune providing financial services to top tier football players. He commented, but for the ability to kick a ball and run fast, most would be otherwise carrying a hod on a building site. Your mate sounds like a dick, most people with large amounts of money can do with a financial advisor, its not a football player thing and being a good hod carrier can actually carry a lot of respect on a building site with a decent amount of money if in a good gang. Angela Rayner's housing promises is going to require thousands of them 4
Popular Post JonnyF Posted January 16 Popular Post Posted January 16 1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said: I know a guy who made a fortune providing financial services to top tier football players. Nice to know the type of people you mix with. 1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said: He commented, but for the ability to kick a ball and run fast, most would be otherwise carrying a hod on a building site. Sounds like he shares your disdain for the working classes. Bet you two had a right good laugh at those lowly "hod carriers". 2 2
ChaiyaTH Posted January 16 Posted January 16 5 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Nice to know the type of people you mix with. You must be really ignorant if you think it is done better for you in your 'organized pension'. We are just months or a few years away before they do a rug pull on those. 3
Bday Prang Posted January 16 Posted January 16 1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said: I know a guy who made a fortune providing financial services to top tier football players. He commented, but for the ability to kick a ball and run fast, most would be otherwise carrying a hod on a building site. I note that you have encountered a bit of criticism for the above comment, but to be honest this is one subject I agree with you on. I went to school with two lads whose fathers were pro footballers in the 60's I won't mention any names but both also became pro footballers. One played for Rangers and also for England . Both as thick as a dockers sandwich both attended the remedial class, accompanied by every member of the school team. However neither would ever have cut it as a hod carrier I doubt the current crop of imported foreign footballers are any better, some of which have never been near a school. However they might make better hod carriers 1
Chomper Higgot Posted January 16 Posted January 16 32 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Nice to know the type of people you mix with. Sounds like he shares your disdain for the working classes. Bet you two had a right good laugh at those lowly "hod carriers". Jonny you’re letting a bit of your wealth envy out. They’re not hod carriers, or did you miss that bit? 1
Chomper Higgot Posted January 16 Posted January 16 7 minutes ago, Bday Prang said: I note that you have encountered a bit of criticism for the above comment, but to be honest this is one subject I agree with you on. I went to school with two lads whose fathers were pro footballers in the 60's I won't mention any names but both also became pro footballers. One played for Rangers and also for England . Both as thick as a dockers sandwich both attended the remedial class, accompanied by every member of the school team. However neither would ever have cut it as a hod carrier I doubt the current crop of imported foreign footballers are any better, some of which have never been near a school. However they might make better hod carriers The context of the conversation, which took place in Cheadle Hume, was the financial mess a local team player had got himself in. It’s a common enough occurrence, the OP simply reporting the latest iteration. 1
Popular Post JonnyF Posted January 16 Popular Post Posted January 16 6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Jonny you’re letting a bit of your wealth envy out. Hardly. The guy is going bankrupt. 😄 6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: They’re not hod carriers, or did you miss that bit? I certainly didn't miss your disdain for those that are... Classic Labour supporter and their contempt for the working class of Britain. 3 1
Chomper Higgot Posted January 16 Posted January 16 1 minute ago, JonnyF said: Hardly. The guy is going bankrupt. 😄 I certainly didn't miss your disdain for those that are... Classic Labour supporter and their contempt for the working class of Britain. There’s nothing wrong with carrying a hod Jonny, it wouldn’t be my career choice, but I have nothing but respect for hard working people. Perhaps your assumption that hod carriers are deserving of contempt is the real message in your post. 1
Popular Post JonnyF Posted January 16 Popular Post Posted January 16 Just now, Chomper Higgot said: There’s nothing wrong with carrying a hod Jonny, it wouldn’t be my career choice, but I have nothing but respect for hard working people. I know Chomps, I worked as a labourer on building sites during the holidays to put myself through 3 years of University. I can assure you it's extremely hard work, especially in the winter. Just now, Chomper Higgot said: Perhaps your assumption that hod carriers are deserving of contempt is the real message in your post. It was you and your financial advisor mate who were using the hod carrier as an example of a low status job. 2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: He commented, but for the ability to kick a ball and run fast, most would be otherwise carrying a hod on a building site. Oh how you two intellectual giants must have laughed at the lowly working class labourers. 😄 3 1
Justanotherone Posted January 16 Posted January 16 he much have made a multiply of that, to owe that much...
Chomper Higgot Posted January 16 Posted January 16 23 minutes ago, JonnyF said: I know Chomps, I worked as a labourer on building sites during the holidays to put myself through 3 years of University. I can assure you it's extremely hard work, especially in the winter. It was you and your financial advisor mate who were using the hod carrier as an example of a low status job. Oh how you two intellectual giants must have laughed at the lowly working class labourers. 😄 “It was you and your financial advisor mate who were using the hod carrier as an example of a low status job.” Another assumption by you Jonny. The observation was one of not qualified to do anything but labouring. If you regard a hard day’s work laboring as ‘low status’ that’s your point of view, don’t try to project it on me.
Chomper Higgot Posted January 16 Posted January 16 12 minutes ago, Justanotherone said: he much have made a multiply of that, to owe that much... Or left a large tax bill unpaid for a number of years. The penalties for doing so are severe.
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted January 16 Popular Post Posted January 16 3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: “It was you and your financial advisor mate who were using the hod carrier as an example of a low status job.” Another assumption by you Jonny. The observation was one of not qualified to do anything by labouring. If you regard a hard day’s work laboring as ‘low status’ that’s your point of view, don’t try to project it on me. Your implication was clear Chomper as was your mates. 2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: I know a guy who made a fortune providing financial services to top tier football players. He commented, but for the ability to kick a ball and run fast, most would be otherwise carrying a hod on a building site. 3
JonnyF Posted January 16 Posted January 16 16 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: “It was you and your financial advisor mate who were using the hod carrier as an example of a low status job.” Another assumption by you Jonny. The observation was one of not qualified to do anything but labouring. If you regard a hard day’s work laboring as ‘low status’ that’s your point of view, don’t try to project it on me. Your implication was very clear. If he hadn't been a sportsman he'd have ended up carrying a hod. It's a put down, not only of the sportsman by implying they are useless at everything other than sport, but also the hod carrier, using that profession as the example of "the only other thing" he would have been capable of. I'm not the least bit surprised you would try to slither out of it though. 😄 Nice to learn the type of company you keep... 2
sungod Posted January 16 Posted January 16 27 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: “It was you and your financial advisor mate who were using the hod carrier as an example of a low status job.” Another assumption by you Jonny. The observation was one of not qualified to do anything but labouring. If you regard a hard day’s work laboring as ‘low status’ that’s your point of view, don’t try to project it on me. Maybe you should edit your original post then, to everyone else on the forum you and your wealthy friend seem to have an air of superiority over 'lowly hod carriers' 2
Nick Carter icp Posted January 16 Posted January 16 54 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: There’s nothing wrong with carrying a hod Jonny, it wouldn’t be my career choice, but I have nothing but respect for hard working people. I used to carry the Hod and I appreciate the respect that you bestow upon me 1 1
billd766 Posted January 16 Posted January 16 1 hour ago, ChaiyaTH said: You must be really ignorant if you think it is done better for you in your 'organized pension'. We are just months or a few years away before they do a rug pull on those. And YOU know that this is correct. Do you have anything to back up your words?
Chomper Higgot Posted January 16 Posted January 16 1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said: I used to carry the Hod and I appreciate the respect that you bestow upon me There you go, I certainly do not hold you in contempt.
Nick Carter icp Posted January 16 Posted January 16 8 hours ago, JonnyF said: I know Chomps, I worked as a labourer on building sites during the holidays to put myself through 3 years of University. I can assure you it's extremely hard work, especially in the winter. Was you labouring or hod carrying ? If you were on the hod , did you have ready mix mortar and did the site have a hoist or was it all ladder work ? 1
Chomper Higgot Posted January 16 Posted January 16 8 hours ago, JonnyF said: Your implication was very clear. If he hadn't been a sportsman he'd have ended up carrying a hod. It's a put down, not only of the sportsman by implying they are useless at everything other than sport, but also the hod carrier, using that profession as the example of "the only other thing" he would have been capable of. I'm not the least bit surprised you would try to slither out of it though. 😄 Nice to learn the type of company you keep... It’s not a put down Jonny, hod carrying is an honest way to make a living. Again not my choice but nothing to be looked down on, regardless of your assertion it is.
Chomper Higgot Posted January 16 Posted January 16 8 hours ago, sungod said: Maybe you should edit your original post then, to everyone else on the forum you and your wealthy friend seem to have an air of superiority over 'lowly hod carriers' I rather like my post, it’s revealed precisely who among us regard an honest days work laboring to be ‘lowly’.
tjintx Posted January 16 Posted January 16 9 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: There’s nothing wrong with carrying a hod Jonny, it wouldn’t be my career choice, but I have nothing but respect for hard working people. Perhaps your assumption that hod carriers are deserving of contempt is the real message in your post. You forget to add the conclusion of your feelings to the first sentence: "... as long as they realize their place in society and vote as they are told."
Bkk Brian Posted January 16 Posted January 16 31 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: I rather like my post, it’s revealed precisely who among us regard an honest days work laboring to be ‘lowly’. Your post is still there and it does indeed do that, your mate and you promoting what he said 1
Chomper Higgot Posted January 16 Posted January 16 8 minutes ago, tjintx said: You forget to add the conclusion of your feelings to the first sentence: "... as long as they realize their place in society and vote as they are told." Well clearly that’s something you yourself came up with.
Bkk Brian Posted January 16 Posted January 16 1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said: Was you labouring or hod carrying ? If you were on the hod , did you have ready mix mortar and did the site have a hoist or was it all ladder work ? Let me jump in here because I did a bit myself soon after I left school. I started labouring then joined a bricklaying gang as their hoddie, no ready mix mortar and no hoists, all ladder and scaffolding work. They did have ready mix on the big sites. Great experience. Then eventually went on the trowel myself after some training. All that finished after an accident so changed career drastically. Went to Uni for that move. 1
Nick Carter icp Posted January 16 Posted January 16 3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: It’s not a put down Jonny, hod carrying is an honest way to make a living. Again not my choice but nothing to be looked down on, regardless of your assertion it is. Why wouldn't you want to be a hod carrier ? You could even turn the hod upside down and dig that hole even deeper ? https://concretetoolsupply.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/alum-brickhod.jpg https://www.wonkeedonkeetools.co.uk/media/wysiwyg/BH-Brick-Hods-Jenna/BH1/BH1-1.jpg 1
sungod Posted January 17 Posted January 17 11 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: I rather like my post, it’s revealed precisely who among us regard an honest days work laboring to be ‘lowly’. I must admit it does rather highlight your disdain of the working class and self perceived superiority over them rather well, keep digging that hole, you are making a sterling effort! 1
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