Imagine? No bombs, no military...

[1FinickyOne]

If the world were at peace forever, no police - no military, the money saved would be enough to create a paradise for all... everyone would have a lovely home, there would be extraordinary gardens and hospitals, fabulous amusement areas, from museums to waterparks... great food - no cancer, no pain... 

 

what else? 

[novacova]

Nice thought but it’s not going to happen here on this planet given the predatory nature of humans, beasts and nature.

[bkk6060]

Be a Christian.  That is where they say you will be when you die. But here,  no way ever just more wars and human carnage.  

[Baht Simpson]

"Where some have found their paradise, others just come to harm." -Joni Mitchell

 

The only paradise is contentment. 

[Hummin]

25 minutes ago, 1FinickyOne said:

If the world were at peace forever, no police - no military, the money saved would be enough to create a paradise for all... everyone would have a lovely home, there would be extraordinary gardens and hospitals, fabulous amusement areas, from museums to waterparks... great food - no cancer, no pain... 

 

what else? 

You want to live like a monkey who didnt come down from the trees, because it was to dangerous on the ground? 

 

Human nature is to conquer and capture, it is in our genes for houndred thousands of years, if not millions. 

 

Our survival is depended on strong men and science, hand in hand. 

 

And most likely we will manage to self-destruct if not a nature catastrophic happening first.

[Tarteso]

Lennon! Here you have another follower!👍🙏

[OneMoreFarang]

 

[KhunLA]

2 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

Be a Christian.  That is where they say you will be when you die. But here,  no way ever just more wars and human carnage.  

Aren't they the same ones waging wars here.  Kind of makes me think, with a bunch of Christians there, Heaven would be Hell 

[fredwiggy]

39 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Aren't they the same ones waging wars here.  Kind of makes me think, with a bunch of Christians there, Heaven would be Hell 

What Christians are waging wars now? Maybe individuals that are fighting terrorism, which is kinda necessary. And if we didn't wage war against Germany and Japan, we wouldn't be living as we are now.

[KhunLA]

5 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

What Christians are waging wars now? Maybe individuals that are fighting terrorism, which is kinda necessary. And if we didn't wage war against Germany and Japan, we wouldn't be living as we are now.

This century, only 1/4 over, and has been pretty embarrassing.  Probably killed 1M, and displaced 10X that many from their homes, in direct conflicts.  

 

Indirectly, USA, UK, FR, DE, IT & SP ...

 

[fredwiggy]

2 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

This century, only 1/4 over, and has been pretty embarrassing.  Probably killed 1M, and displaced 10X that many from their homes, in direct conflicts.  

 

Indirectly, USA, UK, FR, DE, IT & SP ...

 

That doesn't say Christians are waging war. Arms dealing is done by almost all countries, for legitimate reasons. Helping other countries fight maniacs is America's job, seeing all countries live there and should be helped, besides those that are waging war against others. We did sell arms to the wrong people at times, yes.

[1FinickyOne]

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

Aren't they the same ones waging wars here.  Kind of makes me think, with a bunch of Christians there, Heaven would be Hell 

I want the heaven where my dogs are... I miss them so much. 

[1FinickyOne]

Interesting in that nobody has some positive view of what a future might be w/o wasted military money. 

[Hummin]

2 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

What Christians are waging wars now? Maybe individuals that are fighting terrorism, which is kinda necessary. And if we didn't wage war against Germany and Japan, we wouldn't be living as we are now.

The other side claims the same, there is no good solutions as long we aiming for the same resources. While our wealth grows, others decline and we take advantage of them, beause we can. If it was not us, we might had been on the other side. 

 

The worød is still dealing with the great britain empire, as well ottamans collapse, and some have taken full advantage of the collapse in the aftermath 

[GypsyT]

17 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

What Christians are waging wars now?

MAGA and Trump

[Iron Tongue]

On 2/1/2025 at 9:23 PM, 1FinickyOne said:

If the world were at peace forever, no police - no military, the money saved would be enough to create a paradise for all... everyone would have a lovely home, there would be extraordinary gardens and hospitals, fabulous amusement areas, from museums to waterparks... great food - no cancer, no pain... 

 

what else? 

Someone like me would walk up to people like you, and kick you in the groin.  And while you are writhing on the ground, I'd pick through your possessions for anything valuable.  I'd only become enraged because all I find on you are crystals, herbal tea, and some rainbow stickers.

You think you would resist, but I have the muzzle of my gun shoved in your mouth.

.

Perhaps you should read about the little social experiment that the Marxist BLM people attempted in Portland Oregon when they declared a section as their "Autonomous Zone" in 2020 - and the socialist Mayor obligingly pulled all law enforcement from it.  What happened?  Fights, rampant drug use and overdoses while EMTs refused to respond.  Gunfire, murders, robberies, property crimes, and sexual assaults, until it was finally swept away as a total failure.

[The Old Bull]

On 2/2/2025 at 3:56 PM, KhunLA said:

This century, only 1/4 over, and has been pretty embarrassing.  Probably killed 1M, and displaced 10X that many from their homes, in direct conflicts.  

 

Indirectly, USA, UK, FR, DE, IT & SP ...

 

War is good for business if you are in the death business.

[Thingamabob]

On 2/2/2025 at 12:23 PM, 1FinickyOne said:

If the world were at peace forever, no police - no military, the money saved would be enough to create a paradise for all... everyone would have a lovely home, there would be extraordinary gardens and hospitals, fabulous amusement areas, from museums to waterparks... great food - no cancer, no pain... 

 

what else? 

Difficult to comprehend how no bombs and no military would put an end to cancer and pain.

[newbee2022]

Yeah, that was John Lennon's and I reckon most people's dream.

[Freddy42OZ]

49 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Difficult to comprehend how no bombs and no military would put an end to cancer and pain.

 

Huge sums of money that would have been spent on the military, could instead be spent on making life better for people. 

 

[1FinickyOne]

3 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

Difficult to comprehend how no bombs and no military would put an end to cancer and pain.

medical research.. it took lots of money to get the polio vaccine... my mother was out door to door raising money

[1FinickyOne]

2 hours ago, Freddy42OZ said:

 

Huge sums of money that would have been spent on the military, could instead be spent on making life better for people. 

 

Yes. And how would you spend it? Pave paradise and put up a parking lot? 

[1FinickyOne]

4 hours ago, The Old Bull said:

War is good for business if you are in the death business.

yes, we wil want some new businesses but will anyone want to work? Who will flip your burger? 

[Purdey]

There are 21 countries without a standing military. All small but mostly tourist destinations. 

[1FinickyOne]

On 2/2/2025 at 3:02 PM, KhunLA said:

Aren't they the same ones waging wars here.

sure, we would have to end the crusades... it's about time. 

[blaze master]

On 2/2/2025 at 6:39 AM, 1FinickyOne said:

Interesting in that nobody has some positive view of what a future might be w/o wasted military money. 

 

I've never been in a fight in my life. Plan on keeping it that way.

[1FinickyOne]

3 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

I've never been in a fight in my life. Plan on keeping it that way.

Those are expensive wars - not fights... but good for you. I bet part of your tax dollars, as mine, have gone to paying others to make war. 

[blaze master]

1 minute ago, 1FinickyOne said:

Those are expensive wars - not fights... but good for you. I bet part of your tax dollars, as mine, have gone to paying others to make war. 

 

War is for weak minds and greed.

[1FinickyOne]

1 minute ago, blaze master said:

 

War is for weak minds and greed.

So, why can't the strong minds start by controlling them? 

[blaze master]

5 minutes ago, 1FinickyOne said:

So, why can't the strong minds start by controlling them? 

 

Greed. The need for.resources as a goal drives even strong minds to do horrible things.