1st Mexico now Canada. Tariffs on hold.

[Paul52]

19 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Check the record player, it seems to be skipping.

Were you being deliberately ironic?  Have Americans finally leaned about irony?

[newbee2022]

On 2/4/2025 at 5:11 AM, dinsdale said:

The "stick" part of "carrot and stick" seems to be working.

Vice versa

[newbee2022]

18 hours ago, impulse said:

Just round 1.  It's a long game

And I'm not so sure who will win. Tariffs alone doesn't say enough. It will have to specify all those exceptions. Otherwise US people might be hit by higher prices but no alternatives. I suppose Trump's advisers told him this.

[The Old Bull]

Trump did not fold. The sanctions were never intended to happen. Two things were at stake, first testing blowback from his own people and second tightening up the Canada and Mexico borders. He achieved both goals with a bluff, a good poker player. I don't think he is as stupid as he pretends to be.

[Tug]

29 minutes ago, The Old Bull said:

Trump did not fold. The sanctions were never intended to happen. Two things were at stake, first testing blowback from his own people and second tightening up the Canada and Mexico borders. He achieved both goals with a bluff, a good poker player. I don't think he is as stupid as he pretends to be.

In my humble (conspiracy theory) it was and is a distraction so trumps co conspirator musk gets all out data out of our government for future use in rigging elections killing off Medicare social security to keep tabs on folks ect ect and guess what he’s a foreigner + light years ahead of trump intelligence department….that being said Canada and Mexico both agreed to do what they allready agreed to do.trump looks the fool and further tarnished Americas standing in the world.

[jerrymahoney]

1 hour ago, The Old Bull said:

Trump did not fold. The sanctions were never intended to happen. Two things were at stake, first testing blowback from his own people and second tightening up the Canada and Mexico borders. He achieved both goals with a bluff, a good poker player. I don't think he is as stupid as he pretends to be.

And like the boy who cried WOLF!, there may be only so many times he can get away with that modus operandi.

[saintdomingo]

On 2/4/2025 at 10:37 AM, blaze master said:

Hahaha people actually believed these tariffs were going through ? Do you know the work that would of taken to implement. People are so gullible.

Which people, the would of and should of brigade.?

[Kwaibill]

On 2/4/2025 at 11:23 AM, impulse said:

 

Why is it that lefties always revert to questioning our IQ or education level?   You know how stoopid it sounds to refer to anyone you disagree with as a MAGA? 

 

Compare IQs and education levels and peak annual earnings, and over 95% of the time, I'd come out ahead on all 3.  I've actually looked it up.  But what does that matter?

 

Lol. You looked it up where, exactly?

No body mentioned IQ or education levels that I saw until you did. Coming from an apparent Trumpian I would imagine it as a default position.

[pomchop]

[impulse]

40 minutes ago, Kwaibill said:

Lol. You looked it up where, exactly?

No body mentioned IQ or education levels that I saw until you did. Coming from an apparent Trumpian I would imagine it as a default position.

 

Read the post I responded to.  Here, let me do the work for you:

 

Better stop replying with your maga visions, because they sound very foolish and uneducated. 

 

It gets old hearing how low information and uneducated I am.  From lefties who have no clue what my IQ, education level, and finances look like.  As I responded, there's a 95% chance I score higher in those aspects than they do.  It's easy to look up where I fit on all 3 bells curves.  There's this thing called the internet.

 

[SunnyinBangrak]

46 minutes ago, pomchop said:

No matter how you desperately try mischaratcherizing this situation, Trump won, and America won. Mexico and Canada look like the drunk fool that picked a fight with a large bystander and got KO'd in the 1st punch.

Too much #winning

[riclag]

41 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

No matter how you desperately try mischaratcherizing this situation, Trump won, and America won. Mexico and Canada look like the drunk fool that picked a fight with a large bystander and got KO'd in the 1st punch.

Too much #winning

“Too much #winning”.

To Put it  all in perspective  !

 

 

 

 

 

[scottiejohn]

31 minutes ago, riclag said:

“Too much #winning”.

To Put it  all in perspective  !

 

 

 

 

 

You know of a MAGA supporter with perspective?

if so it must be a very rare specimen indeed!

[pomchop]

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

No matter how you desperately try mischaratcherizing this situation, Trump won, and America won. Mexico and Canada look like the drunk fool that picked a fight with a large bystander and got KO'd in the 1st punch.

Too much #winning

won what?  oh that's right canada agreed to appoint a fentanayal czar...maybe they will name don jr...

 

winning or whining..with trump it is so hard to tell the difference.

[candide]

It's actually relatively easy to deal with Trump's threats. One just needs to find the right m.o.! 😆

 

 

[SunnyinBangrak]

16 minutes ago, pomchop said:

won what?  oh that's right canada agreed to appoint a fentanayal czar...maybe they will name don jr...

 

winning or whining..with trump it is so hard to tell the difference.

??

 

To recap. Trump threatened tariffs on Canada and Mexico unless they took control of the border. The left threw a wobbly falsely claiming all that would happen is Americans will pay more for essentials. Fast forward a few hours, Mexico and Canada caved in and agreed to control the border, the threat of tariffs was rescinded due to Trump getting the secure border he wanted and the left claimed couldn't happen. End of.

[dinsdale]

3 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

??

 

To recap. Trump threatened tariffs on Canada and Mexico unless they took control of the border. The left threw a wobbly falsely claiming all that would happen is Americans will pay more for essentials. Fast forward a few hours, Mexico and Canada caved in and agreed to control the border, the threat of tariffs was rescinded due to Trump getting the secure border he wanted and the left claimed couldn't happen. End of.

Sadly logic doesn't apply to those who are afflicted with the "syndrome that cannot be named". There are some in this world that will argue black is white and white is black and believe they are right.  They'll say this also isn't a win for Trump.

Colombia yields on US deportation flights to avert trade war

A looming trade war between the US and Colombia appears to have been averted after the Colombian government agreed to allow US military flights carrying deported migrants to land in the Andean country.

The spat erupted on Sunday when President Gustavo Petro barred two military planes carrying Colombians deported from the US from landing.

The Trump administration responded by threatening to slap punitive tariffs on Colombian exports to the US.

President Petro at first said Colombia would retaliate by imposing tariffs on US goods, but the White House later announced that Colombia had agreed to accept migrants - including those arriving on US military aircraft - "without limitation or delay".

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20p36e62gyo

[pomchop]

20 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

??

 

To recap. Trump threatened tariffs on Canada and Mexico unless they took control of the border. The left threw a wobbly falsely claiming all that would happen is Americans will pay more for essentials. Fast forward a few hours, Mexico and Canada caved in and agreed to control the border, the threat of tariffs was rescinded due to Trump getting the secure border he wanted and the left claimed couldn't happen. End of.

sure that is exactly what happened...sure it is.

[GypsyT]

I googled. Answer came:

 

"The lunatics have taken over the asylum" is what's going on;

 

A situation in which incapable people are put in charge of responsibilities they are unqualified to handle."

 

[SunnyinBangrak]

14 minutes ago, GypsyT said:

I googled. Answer came:

 

"The lunatics have taken over the asylum" is what's going on;

 

A situation in which incapable people are put in charge of responsibilities they are unqualified to handle."

 

This is not a KJP or general DEI thread.

[candide]

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

Sadly logic doesn't apply to those who are afflicted with the "syndrome that cannot be named". There are some in this world that will argue black is white and white is black and believe they are right.  They'll say this also isn't a win for Trump.

Colombia yields on US deportation flights to avert trade war

A looming trade war between the US and Colombia appears to have been averted after the Colombian government agreed to allow US military flights carrying deported migrants to land in the Andean country.

The spat erupted on Sunday when President Gustavo Petro barred two military planes carrying Colombians deported from the US from landing.

The Trump administration responded by threatening to slap punitive tariffs on Colombian exports to the US.

President Petro at first said Colombia would retaliate by imposing tariffs on US goods, but the White House later announced that Colombia had agreed to accept migrants - including those arriving on US military aircraft - "without limitation or delay".

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20p36e62gyo

Wow! The superpower Colombia caved! 🤣

[dinsdale]

42 minutes ago, candide said:

Wow! The superpower Colombia caved! 🤣

I think you'll find neither Canada nor Mexico are super powers either. What's your point? Trump is getting his way and your just butt hurt about it.

[candide]

22 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

I think you'll find neither Canada nor Mexico are super powers either. What's your point? Trump is getting his way and your just butt hurt about it.

My point is that U.S. GDP is 72 times higher than Colombia.

 

BTW, Trump obtained basically peanuts from Canada and Mexico.

[jerrymahoney]

Opinion from the Wall Street Journal Editorial Board (preview before paywall)

 

Trump Blinks on North American Tariffs
The President pauses after minor concessions from Canada and Mexico.

 Feb. 3, 2025 6:17 pm ET

 

President Trump never admits a mistake, but he often changes his mind. That’s the best way to read his decision Monday to pause his 25% tariffs against Mexico and Canada after minor concessions from each country.

 

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/donald-trump-tariffs-canada-mexico-claudia-sheinbaum-justin-trudeau-concessions-trade-border-d5bbed97

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Bust used to justify ‘massive’ jump in fentanyl was not from Canada

 

The White House used 43 pounds of fentanyl crossing into the US at its northern border to justify tariffs on Canadian imports, but the drugs came from within the US, media reports said Wednesday.

The 43-pound total represented a “massive 2,205 increase” the White House said in comparison to the previous year’s total of two pounds, the Globe and Mail Newspaper reported.

But according to the US border agency, about one-third of the total, 15 pounds, was actually seized in July in Spokane, Washington, not entering the US from Canada, court records show

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/bust-used-to-justify-massive-jump-in-fentanyl-was-not-from-canada/3473198

[candide]

Wall Street Journal Mocks Trump Supporters For Calling Tariffs 'Genius Power Play'

https://www.yahoo.com/news/wall-street-journal-mocks-trump-234251079.html

[josephbloggs]

1 hour ago, candide said:

Wall Street Journal Mocks Trump Supporters For Calling Tariffs 'Genius Power Play'

https://www.yahoo.com/news/wall-street-journal-mocks-trump-234251079.html

We see it on this forum - the cult can not see, they really believe in their leader; no matter how ridiculous his claims are they will swallow and believe. Amen.

[Yellowtail]

Poor lefties. 

[CallumWK]

And the orange man caves in again.

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-signs-order-delaying-tariffs-172305688.html

 

Trump pauses de minimis repeal as packages pile up at US customs

[CallumWK]

And he doesn't give up yet, although that hole in his foot must look like a crater by now.

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-trump-told-gop-lawmakers-160217180.html

Trump says he will announce reciprocal tariffs on many countries next week