4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

There is already an alternative to Trump’s ‘suggestion’.

 

Its called the two state solution and it has wide international backing.

 

Yes, and in principle it is a good idea. But all this little details...

As long as the USA let Israel do whatever they want there is no chance of a fair two state solution.

2 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

Thank you for promising me you won't repeat yourself. I am not sure that will happen, but it would be refreshing.

And "you've been told numerous times" reminds me of some teachers repeating the same thing again and again - without thinking a little bit in between. 

 

   The discussion does get rather stifled when you keep asking the same questions and you keep needing the same thing explained to you over and over again. .

   You are holding the class back .

And before you ask : No the Philistines were not related to the Palestinians 

19 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I understand why Israel fought Hamas. I don't understand why they destroyed the homes, schools, hospitals, and much more of the Palestinian people and why they killed tens of thousands of innocent people including thousands of children.

I truly believe that Israel wants to wipe the Palestinians off the face of the map and the only thing that's holding them back is public sentiment. 

Just now, spidermike007 said:

I truly believe that Israel wants to wipe the Palestinians off the face of the map and the only thing that's holding them back is public sentiment. 

Fortunately what you believe is based in your own fantasies only. But thanks for sharing that.

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

arrested for suggesting a war crime

 

That's almost as far-fetched as suggesting he be arrested for "inciting an insurrection."

4 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

I truly believe that Israel wants to wipe the Palestinians off the face of the map and the only thing that's holding them back is public sentiment. 

 

  You mean the Public, who have been accusing Israel of genocide and ethnic cleansing , would once again accuse Israel of genocide and ethnic cleansing , if Israel actually did it ?

   And that's why Israel doesn't do it ? 

Here's an idea: Have Gaza Palestinians move to Palestine West Bank. Evict all the Israeli "Settlers" land thieves breaking UN resolution. Move from Palestine to Palestine. When total destruction of Gaza is rebuilt, some may wish to return to Gaza.

@OneMoreFarang one of your posts removed for personal attacks, you've also had others removed for trolling the topic with unattributed claims. Carry on and it will be more than posts of yours removed.

 

An addtional off topic troll post removed by another member

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

 

Saudi and UAE have already pledged to pay for the reconstruction of Gaza. 

 

   What would be the point of that ?

With Hamas still there , there would be another war and it would all get knocked down again 

 

A large part of the post war Gaza future dilemma is Netanyahu right wing government and their ultranationalist far right supporters in Israel who want nothing more than total expulsion of Palestinians and expand Jewish settlements. I will include Trump is that camp. It will not go well if they persist in this kind of incendiary behavior. 

2 hours ago, Purdey said:

A prime piece of real estate. 

Let Palestinians go somewhere else to wander the earth until the end of time. 

Why should the Palestinians HAVE to give up the land where they have lived for centuries. The land does NOT belong to the USA, or much as they want to believe it, it does NOT belong to Israel either.

 

A better plan would be to move al the people of Israel to the USA, where I am sure that they will live a better life and save money on an army that they would not need. After all. Trump will keep them safe from those nasty Palestinians, who are fighting to keep their own lands from being overrun by the far worse nasty Israelis.

4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   What would be the point if that ?

With Hamas still there , there would be another war and it would all get knocked down again 

 

That is a twisted and sick analogy. Many civilians have suffered collateral sufferings and damages to their homes due to disproportionate use of force by Israel. 

7 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

That is a twisted and sick analogy. Many civilians have suffered collateral sufferings and damages to their homes due to disproportionate use of force by Israel. 

 

  Its not twisted or sick at all .

As long as Hamas are still in power , then they will wage war against Israel .

   If Gaza gets rebuilt then they will attack Israel again and Israel will bomb Gaza again and Gaza will be back to being rubble again 

45 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Fortunately what you believe is based in your own fantasies only. But thanks for sharing that.

Not really, thousands of innocent people including children murdered.

53 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Fortunately what you believe is based in your own fantasies only. But thanks for sharing that.

It is very sad that you actually believe that about Israel.

1 minute ago, FritsSikkink said:

Not really, thousands of innocent people including children murdered.

There have not been thousands of children murdered, that is a lie. The deaths attributed are not murders and are nowhere near the number given by Hamas but that's another topic.

2 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

It is very sad that you actually believe that about him. 

What did I say I believe about him? Is that you making things up again?

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

A crash course on history of PALESTINIAN STATE:

1. Before Israel, there was a British mandate, not a Palestinian state

2. Before the British Mandate, there was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state.

3. Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state.

4. Before the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, there was the Ayubid Arab-Kurdish Empire, not a Palestinian state.

5. Before the Ayubid Empire, there was the Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state.

6. Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, there was the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, not a Palestinian state.

7. Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, there was the Byzantine empire, not a Palestinian state.

8. Before the Byzantine Empire, there were the Sassanids, not a Palestinian state.

9. Before the Sassanid Empire, there was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state.

10. Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state.

11. Before the Roman Empire, there was the Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state.

12. Before the Hasmonean state, there was the Seleucid, not a Palestinian state.

13. Before the Seleucid empire, there was the empire of Alexander the Great, not a Palestinian state.

14. Before the empire of Alexander the Great, there was the Persian empire, not a Palestinian state.

15. Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state.

16. Before the Babylonian Empire, there were the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state.

17. Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the Kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state.

18. Before the kingdom of Israel, there was the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, not a Palestinian state.

19. Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state.

20. Actually, in this piece of land there has been everything, EXCEPT A PALESTINIAN STATE.

You have now been educated. You are welcome.

A link as requested by @Chomper Higgot

   

 

Can you supply a similar historical tieline for the Country of israel?

 

PH

5 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Not really, thousands of innocent people including children murdered.

 

   On Oct 7 th ?

The only innocent children murdered were Israeli children murdered by Palestinians 

No doubt the "ownership" will include the Palestinian Authority oil/gas reserves share in Gaza which  Israel has systematically been stealing since 2000.

 

14 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Its not twisted or sick at all .

As long as Hamas are still in power , then they will wage war against Israel .

   If Gaza gets rebuilt then they will attack Israel again and Israel will bomb Gaza again and Gaza will be back to being rubble again 

So your solution is to continue  the suffering of the people and children which has nothing to do Hamas. That’s is sick. 

3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

What did I say I believe about him? Is that you making things up again?

I meant about Israel's desire to eliminate all Palestinians. I truly believe that's what the extremists in Israel would like to do. 

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   On Oct 7 th ?

The only innocent children murdered were Israeli children murdered by Palestinians 

After that and before that, don't be silly.

1 minute ago, spidermike007 said:

I meant about Israel's desire to eliminate all Palestinians. I truly believe that's what the extremists in Israel would like to do. 

Yes you said that once already. 

 

57 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Fortunately what you believe is based in your own fantasies only. But thanks for sharing that.

 

6 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

There have not been thousands of children murdered, that is a lie. 

Don't twist my words: "thousands of innocent people including children"

Unbelievable, just unbelievable, let's all forget about International laws.

27 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Why should the Palestinians HAVE to give up the land where they have lived for centuries. The land does NOT belong to the USA, or much as they want to believe it, it does NOT belong to Israel either.

 

A better plan would be to move al the people of Israel to the USA, where I am sure that they will live a better life and save money on an army that they would not need. After all. Trump will keep them safe from those nasty Palestinians, who are fighting to keep their own lands from being overrun by the far worse nasty Israelis.

Well, taking the land was a good strategy against the Pawnee, the Cheyanne, the Sioux and so on. I think the Israelis should be sent to Europe as that is where many came from. However, I don't approve of forced evictions.

Just now, FritsSikkink said:

Don't twist my words: "thousands of innocent people including children"

What words was I twisting? There have not been thousands of people murdered, be that adults or children.

 

9 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

There have not been thousands of children murdered, that is a lie. The deaths attributed are not murders and are nowhere near the number given by Hamas but that's another topic.

 

3 hours ago, simple1 said:

Unbelievable. Where will the 2 million plus Gazans relocate?

 

Greenland? Panama? GITMO?

 

 

I don't know about you guys but this is too much winning.

 

 

Just now, Jeff the Chef said:

Unbelievable, just unbelievable, let's all forget about International laws.

 

   What International laws have been forgotten about ?