GroveHillWanderer Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago Sounds as if the German Chancellor Olaf Scholz is not best pleased with Trump and Hegseth's unilateral declarations about Ukraine. A state of emergency would give Scholz the ability to massively increase support to Ukraine. Quote "Today, we must confront the reality of what the actions and statements from the US administration mean for Ukraine, Europe, and the world. Failure to act will mean a threat to the security of our country and our continent. I will not allow that to happen at this critical time for our country," the German leader promised. Scholz proposes declaring state of emergency in Germany due to war in Ukraine https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/scholz-proposes-declaring-state-of-emergency-in-germany-due-to-war-in-ukraine/ar-AA1z1Pte Sweden has also countered the US position, stating that there is no reason why Ukraine can't become a NATO member in future. Ukraine's future NATO membership not off the table, Sweden says https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraines-future-nato-membership-not-off-table-sweden-says-2025-02-13/ 1
Lacessit Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 2 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said: Sounds as if the German Chancellor Olaf Scholz is not best pleased with Trump and Hegseth's unilateral declarations about Ukraine. A state of emergency would give Scholz the ability to massively increase support to Ukraine. Scholz proposes declaring state of emergency in Germany due to war in Ukraine https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/scholz-proposes-declaring-state-of-emergency-in-germany-due-to-war-in-ukraine/ar-AA1z1Pte Sweden has also countered the US position, stating that there is no reason why Ukraine can't become a NATO member in future. Ukraine's future NATO membership not off the table, Sweden says https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraines-future-nato-membership-not-off-table-sweden-says-2025-02-13/ IIRC NATO membership is dependent on a unanimous vote of existing members to admit a new member. Under Trump, the US would never agree, as he is too busy kissing Putin's rear end. If Trump pulled out of NATO, that would clear the way. OTOH, it would also signal to the rest of the world an alliance with America is worthless. 1 1 1
Yagoda Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Lacessit said: IIRC NATO membership is dependent on a unanimous vote of existing members to admit a new member. Under Trump, the US would never agree, as he is too busy kissing Putin's rear end. If Trump pulled out of NATO, that would clear the way. OTOH, it would also signal to the rest of the world an alliance with America is worthless. More Trump obsession babble. We arent pulling out of Nato as long as they do what they are told, and they will. Its a new day. The free ride is over. 1 1 1
scottiejohn Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Yagoda said: More Trump obsession babble. We arent pulling out of Nato as long as they do what they are told, and they will. Its a new day. The free ride is over. NATO is an alliance and is NOT told by any tinpot dictator like Trump what to do! Go and look up the word "alliance" in a dictionary and while you are it it read the NATO Atlantic Charter which includes this; The NATO Motto is "animus in consulendo liber" (Latin for 'a mind unfettered in deliberation'). This is not something you can ever be accused of! 1
NoDisplayName Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 21 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said: A state of emergency would give Scholz the ability to massively increase support to Ukraine. Send your Leopards to Kursk. It worked out so well last time. Hitler believed that a victory here would reassert German strength and improve his prestige with his allies, who he thought were considering withdrawing from the war. Hey! History! It rhymes! 1
hotsun Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Why isnt he calling a state of emergency about this? Germany has got their own problems 1 1
bkk6060 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Ok Olaf, tell Zelensky you will support the war and send 100s of billions of dollars to him and weapons to keep the fight going. Good luck.
Yagoda Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 7 minutes ago, scottiejohn said: NATO is an alliance and is NOT told by any tinpot dictator like Trump what to do! Go and look up the word "alliance" in a dictionary and while you are it it read the NATO Atlantic Charter which includes this; The NATO Motto is "animus in consulendo liber" (Latin for 'a mind unfettered in deliberation'). This is not something you can ever be accused of! Yap yap yap the stalking little flamer is back. NATO will do whats its told. So will your country. Trump is YOUR boss. 1 1
Popular Post scottiejohn Posted 12 hours ago Popular Post Posted 12 hours ago Just now, Yagoda said: Yap yap yap the stalking little flamer is back. NATO will do whats its told. So will your country. Trump is YOUR boss. Trump may be your boss and I assume you along with 70million odd other lunatics voted for him will do as he dictates to you! Just remember that NO ONE else in the world voted for him and neither you nor him can or will tell me or other non Americans what to do! Your insufferable arrogance, and that goes for most MAGAlomanics, has the potential to destroy the world order as we know it. Please do not respond! If you insist in so doing then please refrain from using any of the following as they do NOT apply to the majority of NON MAGAlomaniacs; Democrat Leftist Socialist Yap yap yap 1 4
Yagoda Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, scottiejohn said: Trump may be your boss and I assume you along with 70million odd other lunatics voted for him will do as he dictates to you! Just remember that NO ONE else in the world voted for him and neither you nor him can or will tell me or other non Americans what to do! Your insufferable arrogance, and that goes for most MAGAlomanics, has the potential to destroy the world order as we know it. Please do not respond! If you insist in so doing then please refrain from using any of the following as they do NOT apply to the majority of NON MAGAlomaniacs; Democrat Leftist Socialist Yap yap yap Yap yap yap. You will jump to our tune. Sit. Stay. Now go away 2 1
Popular Post scottiejohn Posted 11 hours ago Popular Post Posted 11 hours ago 1 minute ago, Yagoda said: Yap yap yap. You will jump to our tune. Sit. Stay. Now go away You are the one that needs to go away. Please change your Yap yap Record! It is so boring and shows what a total lack of communication skills, if any, that you could possibly have. Please post, if possible, an erudite response without any of the following words; Yap Socialist Left/left wing 2 1
pegman Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 9 hours ago, bkk6060 said: Ok Olaf, tell Zelensky you will support the war and send 100s of billions of dollars to him and weapons to keep the fight going. Good luck. All in the nine days he has left as Germany leader???
NoDisplayName Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, pegman said: All in the nine days he has left as Germany leader??? ........as offended liverwurst.
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