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To be a leftist, is it a prerequisite to hate the west?

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25 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Given the recent events vis-a-vis Putin and Trump, and Trump's attitude towards economicallyl advanced nations, the question ought to be "To be a Maga supporter, is it a prerequisite to hate democracies?"

You mean democracies that arrest people that post memes on the internet? 

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1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

You mean democracies that arrest people that post memes on the internet? 

Yes. Their conduct is disgraceful compared to the open society that is Russia.

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

Yes. Their conduct is disgraceful compared to the open society that is Russia.

You must be a MAGA Putin puppet

On 2/24/2025 at 9:50 PM, hotsun said:

It seems the leftists would rather click sad and confused emojis rather than post. Cowards

 

All they ever do is cry and chirp. 

On 2/25/2025 at 11:30 AM, hotsun said:

I think of myself as progressive, id rather things progress rather than stay the same or go back to the way things used to be. But todays progressive seems to want the west to “progress” into third world countries. Do any of you know any sane leftists? I think if they loved their countries they wouldnt be leftist

 

It occurs to me that US citizens have a rather twisted understanding of the "left". One assumes you do understand that human rights, social services for the less well off and so on, at least from a European POV were legislated by the "left". Is this not the case in the US?. At this particular point in time the current US Administration is disliked by a number of democratic countries due to it's drift to authoritarianism and political bullying, one could say "cruelty". I believe it's fair to say the USA was once considered a great country to be admired i.e. in the era of the Marshall Plan and JFK - for the moment, no longer.

6 minutes ago, simple1 said:

 

It occurs to me that US citizens have a rather twisted understanding of the "left". One assumes you do understand that human rights, social services for the less well off and so on, at least from a European POV were legislated by the "left". Is this not the case in the US?. At this particular point in time the current US Administration is disliked by a number of democratic countries due to it's drift to authoritarianism and political bullying, one could say "cruelty". I believe it's fair to say the USA was once considered a great country to be admired i.e. in the era of the Marshall Plan and JFK - for the moment, no longer.

Yeah, in the US we want more for the poor than that crumbs the left throws at them to keep them in line. 

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6 hours ago, simple1 said:

 

It occurs to me that US citizens have a rather twisted understanding of the "left". One assumes you do understand that human rights, social services for the less well off and so on, at least from a European POV were legislated by the "left". Is this not the case in the US?. At this particular point in time the current US Administration is disliked by a number of democratic countries due to it's drift to authoritarianism and political bullying, one could say "cruelty". I believe it's fair to say the USA was once considered a great country to be admired i.e. in the era of the Marshall Plan and JFK - for the moment, no longer.

JFK liked israel and jews. The left now hates them

On 2/26/2025 at 8:22 PM, Cryingdick said:

 

All they ever do is cry and chirp. 

No sometimes they/them  fund raise anti doge agitation with the help of SOROS organizations.The Cultural Marxist are deeply entrenched in 

the USA

 

 

On 2/25/2025 at 5:27 AM, Jingthing said:

I would say to be a maga cult member means you must hate democracy.

 

Same goes for the extreme left cult members who definitely hate democracy.

11 minutes ago, hotsun said:

JFK liked israel and jews. The left now hates them

That depends, on if  some rich jews are funding their progressive agendas!

 

 

Those two above in a previous post are social engineering experts / activists ,

hell bent in social justice resistance!

I betcha my tax dollars went their way , in some manner of malignant alignment .

“How to organize our way out of the Trump -Musk Putsch”
 

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/how-to-organize-our-way-out-of-the-trump-musk-putsch/

 

 

6 hours ago, hotsun said:

JFK liked israel and jews. The left now hates them

 

I assume yo're referring to Democrats disliking Jews  & Israel - you're having a laugh

2 hours ago, simple1 said:

 

I assume yo're referring to Democrats disliking Jews  & Israel - you're having a laugh

Democrats are not all leftists. 

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The Marxist movement in that agency had a field day , a hand in the cookie jar every day , it seems.

 USAID leftist assisted terror!

$40 million per week went to the Taliban! 

 

 

On 2/28/2025 at 1:22 AM, simple1 said:

I believe it's fair to say the USA was once considered a great country to be admired i.e. in the era of the Marshall Plan and JFK - for the moment, no longer.

That was a different world, and JFK would likely have lost to Nixon today, IMO.

 

Since then the Euros have been exploiting the US, and China is the great threat ( not Russia ), thanks to Nixon. It's pointless to compare now with then. IMO people now would laugh at JFK for his "ask not what your country" speech. Seems like everyone has their hand out these sad days.

9 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That was a different world, and JFK would likely have lost to Nixon today, IMO.

 

Since then the Euros have been exploiting the US, and China is the great threat ( not Russia ), thanks to Nixon. It's pointless to compare now with then. IMO people now would laugh at JFK for his "ask not what your country" speech. Seems like everyone has their hand out these sad days.

 

Wasn't comparing, just posting my opinion USA was once "Great" and recognised as such. During the Vietnam War ramp up and after. no longer.

 

Please factually explain why the EU has been exploiting the US. Remember defence GDP percentile goals were agreed by Obama and overridden by trump in unilateral breach of the Agreement  IMO again trump demonstrates trump undermining the "word" of the USA, thus creating lack of trust. Trade as also been subject to mutual agreements which trump, again, is unilaterally trying to override. I don't believe JFK's speech you reference was talking to welfare but a vision for the USA e.g. the Space Race which was achieved.

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