Lopburi Quad Bike Crash: Scottish Expat's Death Highlights Road Dangers

[Ralf001]

4 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

So you don't figure he may have stroked out or had a heart attack, leading to the crash?  That's why they do autopsies.

 

I'm open to the possibility he may have been otherwise impaired, but I suspect his family would want an investigation.

 

 

Could been pissed up too... or on drugs.

[kwilco]

9 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

No crash report needed.

Probably the most facile comment on the thread! Clearly shows why expats have no idea of road safety yet feel they can make subjective comments on the topic.

[KhunLA]

Agree with others, and this has anything to do with road safety.  More like drive legally & responsibly IMHO

 

R I P

[kwilco]

2 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Agree with others, and this has anything to do with road safety.  More like drive legally & responsibly IMHO

 

R I P

and why is that not road safety?

[Ralf001]

4 hours ago, kwilco said:

Probably the most facile comment on the thread! Clearly shows why expats have no idea of road safety yet feel they can make subjective comments on the topic.

 

Been driving here daily for 20 years, Dont preach road safety to me.

 

This lad was on the road illegally and as a result he dead.

[kwilco]

2 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

 

Been driving here daily for 20 years, Dont preach road safety to me.

 

This lad was on the road illegally and as a result he dead.

It is a common mistake for "drivers" to assume they know about road safety 

As I said earlier, just because you went to school doesn't make you an educationalist, and just because you went to a hospital, doesn't make you a doctor., just because you can drive a car doesn’t make you an expert” on road safety.

 

Many of the posts on this thread seem to concentrate on the messenger rather than the message……e.g. how long you’ve lived in Thailand, how far you’ve driven….

It is a constant source of amazement o me how little people know of the place even after living here for years… people think they have experience but in fact all they have done is accumulate bad habits.

 

The real question isn’t ‘who has driven the most?’ but ‘who has learned the most from their experience in a structured, analytical way?’

 

If you want to talk about experience, here is my road safety experience

Many discussions about road safety focus on the messenger rather than the message—how long someone has lived in Thailand or how far they’ve driven. But experience is only valuable when it leads to real understanding, not just reinforcing bad habits. The real question isn’t who has driven the most, but who has learned the most in a structured, analytical way.

 

·      Driving Experience

·      Driving in Thailand, Laos, and Malaysia since 1998—averaging about 30,000 km per year.

·      Driven in Canada, the U.S., North Africa (Morocco), and Australia, where I covered extensive distances from Northern Queensland, Sydney to Melbourne over five years, including university research in Queensland.

·      Experience driving across Europe: UK, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Switzerland, Belgium, and the Netherlands—both private and commercial vehicles, including transporting art and antiques. Not regular routes but widely varying destinations.

·      Commercial driving in the UK, logging up to 90,000 miles in a single year, with an average of 50,000 miles per year over 20 years.

·      Riding motorbikes since age 7, with ownership of British and Japanese models. Worked for a major motorbike dealer and international racer in the UK and was employed by an important racing car company in the 1970s.

 

Thailand-Specific Experience

I have driven several hundreds of thousands of kilometres driven across Thailand and Laos. Two pickups, each sold after 295,000 km, plus additional mileage in hire vehicles.

 

I worked in Thailand’s motor industry for 20 years, setting up training courses in motor factories as well as engineering, electronics and supply industries. Unlike many expats, I have worked almost exclusively with Thai professionals in engineering, government, factories and universities, earning a deep appreciation of Thai culture in business, social and transport settings...

Speak conversational to intermediate level Thai (though still improving basic reading and writing skills).

 

Road Safety Expertise

BUT what you don’t have, I cut my teeth on road safety during my first degree which included a placement and my first report in a traffic engineers’ office in a major UK city, where I gained a foundation in road safety science.This experience gave me the ability to analyse, rationalize, and think critically about road safety beyond just personal driving history.

 

The Bottom Line

I’ve driven extensively—hundreds of thousands of kilometres in Thailand alone, and have a deep understanding of how the system works—far beyond what most expats (including yourself as a classic example) or tourists ever grasp.

 

But mileage alone doesn’t make anyone an expert on road safety. Understanding why crashes happen and how to prevent them does.

  

[kwilco]

1 hour ago, Ralf001 said:

This lad was on the road illegally and as a result he dead.

So in your book,  all people driving illegally end up dead?

[Ralf001]

6 hours ago, kwilco said:

So in your book,  all people driving illegally end up dead?

 

I dont have a book.

[kwilco]

23 hours ago, impulse said:

 

So you don't figure he may have stroked out or had a heart attack, leading to the crash?  That's why they do autopsies.

 

I'm open to the possibility he may have been otherwise impaired, but I suspect his family would want an investigation.

 

Ralf is psychic, he doesn't need a crash report!

[kwilco]

55 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

 

I dont have a book.

That I can believe!