Any Jewish people in Thailand noticing local hostilities?

[wasabi]

I was born Jewish but haven't practiced any religion my entire adult life. Up until recent years it wasn't something I frequently thought about. That said I do look Jewish enough that someone could pick me out of a crowd as "Jewish-Looking" I occasionally eat at Halal food places around Bangkok. I've always enjoyed Mediterranean types of food that are common to Muslim eateries. While I am not ignorant of hostilities between Jews and Muslims, I have friends from all walks of life and give everyone a fair shot if they're friendly to me.

 

Right after the Hamas attack on Israel Oct 7th in 2003. I noticed poorer service in the Halal food restaurants I visit. These are not just in the Nana area, but in places like Terminal 21 Asoke as well. For example, for some strange reason everyone was given a plate but my food was served in a Styrofoam container. I know this is minor and I didn't think much about it. But other small things like delayed service, getting my order wrong, and people staring at me both in these restaurants and on the street by people who are Arabic has increased. My wife and friends have noticed this (happening to me) as well so it is not just paranoia.

 

I was only verbally harassed by an Arab person once in my entire 24 years in Thailand, and that was about 4 years ago, unrelated to recent events. In spite of this I have no hard feelings and this post is not meant to stir up resentment or point fingers. But with distrust and anger at Jewish people on the rise in various parts of the world I wonder how much I should be concerned. I was recently in California and didn't notice any issues there, nor in my recent trip to Vietnam. I have no interest in leaving Thailand but was just curious if any other members of this site have noticed anything like this? 

[hotsun]

Strictly speaking, with arab muslims if you have white skin, jewish or not, its irrational to be relaxed in that situation. The issue will not improve

[fredwiggy]

9 minutes ago, wasabi said:

I was born Jewish but haven't practiced any religion my entire adult life. Up until recent years it wasn't something I frequently thought about. That said I do look Jewish enough that someone could pick me out of a crowd as "Jewish-Looking" I occasionally eat at Halal food places around Bangkok. I've always enjoyed Mediterranean types of food that are common to Muslim eateries. While I am not ignorant of hostilities between Jews and Muslims, I have friends from all walks of life and give everyone a fair shot if they're friendly to me.

 

Right after the Hamas attack on Israel Oct 7th in 2003. I noticed poorer service in the Halal food restaurants I visit. These are not just in the Nana area, but in places like Terminal 21 Asoke as well. For example, for some strange reason everyone was given a plate but my food was served in a Styrofoam container. I know this is minor and I didn't think much about it. But other small things like delayed service, getting my order wrong, and people staring at me both in these restaurants and on the street by people who are Arabic has increased. My wife and friends have noticed this (happening to me) as well so it is not just paranoia.

 

I was only verbally harassed by an Arab person once in my entire 24 years in Thailand, and that was about 4 years ago, unrelated to recent events. In spite of this I have no hard feelings and this post is not meant to stir up resentment or point fingers. But with distrust and anger at Jewish people on the rise in various parts of the world I wonder how much I should be concerned. I was recently in California and didn't notice any issues there, nor in my recent trip to Vietnam. I have no interest in leaving Thailand but was just curious if any other members of this site have noticed anything like this? 

There will always be ignorance and prejudice thinking. This is because people weren't taught respect for others in childhood. You'll always have people behind you who know better. Let them be the way they are, and avoid toxic people. They aren't worth your time or worry. Hitler died but there are still those who thought his thinking was good. They're wrong.

[BritManToo]

How could anyone possibly know you were Jewish, unless you announce it to the world?

[Sandboxer]

Stop waffling like a coward Gen Z'er and decide if you want to be on the side of civilized behavior or with the savages.

[ChaiyaTH]

33 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

How could anyone possibly know you were Jewish, unless you announce it to the world?

To be honest, I spot them from a mile away. No joke. Same for most nationalities, i am usually right with my guess too.

 

So it is very possible what the OP experiences, I usually also get defensive already when seeing a jew here since they messed around trying to buy everything up on a island in the south I lived + their wars. OP must look very obviously jewish then or just is a weirdo in general that arabs not like.

 

If talking about the law of attraction, if one is aware of such things and then vibrates like that, you would also attract it.

[wasabi]

32 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

How could anyone possibly know you were Jewish, unless you announce it to the world?

 

I look like a short version of Jerry Seinfeld if that helps. I certainly don't announce it.

[ChaiyaTH]

1 minute ago, wasabi said:

 

I look like a short version of Jerry Seinfeld if that helps. I certainly don't announce it.

So they think you are mossad lol.

[wasabi]

14 minutes ago, ChaiyaTH said:

So they think you are mossad lol.

 

Possible but unlikely. This is not happening every time I go out. Maybe once or twice a month. FYI I am not a political person and not involved with nor support whatever is happening in the South of Thailand. The closest thing to religion I have is Taoism. It's unfortunate when people get swept up into hostilities they didn't create and don't promote.

[ChaiyaTH]

4 minutes ago, wasabi said:

 

Possible but unlikely. This is not happening every time I go out. Maybe once or twice a month. FYI I am not a political person and don't support any wars or whatever is happening in the South of Thailand. The closest thing to religion I have is Taoism. It's unfortunate when people get swept up into hostilities they didn't create and don't promote.

Not sure what you even mean then, anyone who is not a 'real arab' in arab places usually gets <deleted>ty service and a lot of looks, I do too. You speak about a change of 2 years after 9/11, what did you expect? No change? Arabs have had nothing but war from us outsiders lol.

 

Suspicion is logical, just as much as we have to proof ourselves each time with Thais, to let them be aware we are not 'idiot backpacker tourists in their first week' to get entirely different experiences.

[Yagoda]

29 minutes ago, Sandboxer said:

Stop waffling like a coward Gen Z'er and decide if you want to be on the side of civilized behavior or with the savages.

Im for civilization so I wear an IDF shirt.

[Sandboxer]

2 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Im for civilization so I wear an IDF shirt.

The you have chosen wisely.

[Ben Zioner]

Can happen, but Thai people won't make a difference between a Farang and a Jewish farang. Was I wearing the Kippa I may get some interested, amused, looks.

 

While on AN....

[BritManToo]

21 minutes ago, wasabi said:

I look like a short version of Jerry Seinfeld if that helps. I certainly don't announce it.

You could be an Arab, Italian or Persian (depending on skin tone).

[blaze master]

Thai people don't notice. You're making something out of nothing. 

[Yagoda]

11 minutes ago, ChaiyaTH said:

To be honest, I spot them from a mile away. No joke. Same for most nationalities, i am usually right with my guess too.

 

So it is very possible what the OP experiences, I usually also get defensive already when seeing a jew here since they messed around trying to buy everything up on a island in the south I lived + their wars. OP must look very obviously jewish then or just is a weirdo in general that arabs not like.

 

If talking about the law of attraction, if one is aware of such things and then vibrates like that, you would also attract it.

Julius Streicher claimed that he could smell them.  I see you are a bud.

 

Wasabi: Remember that as a Jew, and even better as an American Jew., you are at the top of the evolutionary scale in terms of life compared to your grubby barbaric enemies. Remember too that most antisemites are conspiratorial cowardly loons of no import whatsoever.

[wasabi]

8 minutes ago, Ben Zioner said:

Can happen, but Thai people won't make a difference between a Farang and a Jewish farang. Was I wearing the Kippa I may get some interested, amused, looks.

 

While on AN....

 

I've never had the aforementioned problems occur with a Thai person, including Thai Muslims.

[Yagoda]

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

You could be an Arab, Italian or Persian (depending on skin tone).

In America sometimes you cant tell the jews for the Italians. Even the accents now are the same. They all married each other too. Ive been to wedding with Kosher Italian food.

[Yagoda]

2 minutes ago, wasabi said:

 

I've never had the aforementioned problems occur with a Thai person nor a Thai Muslim.

Most Thai Muslims havent learned how to hate. Antisemites usually learn to hate from barbaric adults when children, or in prison or when their mental illnesses take over. 

[ChaiyaTH]

3 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

In America sometimes you cant tell the jews for the Italians. Even the accents now are the same. They all married each other too. Ive been to wedding with Kosher Italian food.

That has more to do with Americans than it has to do with Italians and Jews in America. Just saying. They are not exactly the brightest...

[ChaiyaTH]

7 minutes ago, blaze master said:

Thai people don't notice. You're making something out of nothing. 

He is, he would have the same issue if he would not been jewish too, even he looked different. It's always about how people act, and how they act has a lot to do with what they think and feel. This is why some people with their face full of tattoo's come across as a threat and other as teddy bear.

[Yagoda]

1 minute ago, ChaiyaTH said:

That has more to do with Americans than it has to do with Italians and Jews in America. Just saying. They are not exactly the brightest...

So whats wrong with marrying Italians?

 

Who isnt the brightest?

[ChaiyaTH]

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

So whats wrong with marrying Italians?

 

Who isnt the brightest?

You could have an italian that is jew in the first place, what is the point you are trying to make here. Americans are usually clueless about any nationalities, cultures or languages, this is not an attack but just a fact. What is it with these endless jewish attention grabs.

[Yagoda]

17 minutes ago, ChaiyaTH said:

You could have an italian that is jew in the first place, what is the point you are trying to make here. Americans are usually clueless about any nationalities, cultures or languages, this is not an attack but just a fact.

LOL, dude when I was in high school I had 10 languages in my suburban neighborhood, and all sorts of great food from folks grandmas, abuelas, nonnas and babushkas. I bet you you never ate czernina or pasta fazool as a child.

 

Italian Jews usually marry their own. They dont cross themselves or have Priests officiating with Rabbis

 

You, like most non Americans, are clueless about the USA

[wasabi]

Just now, Yagoda said:

Most Thai Muslims havent learned how to hate. Antisemites usually learn to hate from barbaric adults when children, or in prison or when their mental illnesses take over. 

 

I understand the suspicions, due to centuries of diaspora and Jewish people historically having outsized representations in finance and the film, but recent antisemitic propaganda I see on social media is full of myths and selective outrage that are full of fallacies. What's happening in the Middle East is woven with such deep anger and grievances that existed long before I was born I don't pretend to know how it started or how they can be resolved. I encourage tolerance and humility but I'm not naive and know that some divides are too wide to be bridged.

 

 

 

 

 

[hotsun]

17 minutes ago, wasabi said:

 

I understand the suspicions, due to centuries of diaspora and Jewish people historically having outsized representations in finance and the film, but recent antisemitic propaganda I see on social media is full of myths and selective outrage that are full of fallacies. What's happening in the Middle East is woven with such deep anger and grievances that existed long before I was born I don't pretend to know how it started or how they can be resolved. I encourage tolerance and humility but I'm not naive and know that some divides are too wide to be bridged.

 

 

 

 

 

Not just jews will be the ones dealing with it. Europe now is a ticking time bomb quite literally

[Yagoda]

12 minutes ago, wasabi said:

 

I understand the suspicions, due to centuries of diaspora and Jewish people historically having outsized representations in finance and the film, but recent antisemitic propaganda I see on social media is full of myths and selective outrage that are full of fallacies. What's happening in the Middle East is woven with such deep anger and grievances that existed long before I was born I don't pretend to know how it started or how they can be resolved. I encourage tolerance and humility but I'm not naive and know that some divides are too wide to be bridged.

 

 

 

 

 

Jews get outsized representations because they work for it. Where would the Nobel prizes be without them.

[Felton Jarvis]

Jews and Americans are hated worldwide. Nothing unusual. Hate is a cancer. I am not going to take the bait when I am treated with contempt, I just make myself scarce.

[BangkokReady]

1 hour ago, wasabi said:

Right after the Hamas attack on Israel Oct 7th in 2003

 

Was it after the attack by Hamas or after the "counter-attack" by Israel on civilians in Gaza?

[Yagoda]

3 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

Was it after the attack by Hamas or after the "counter-attack" by Israel on civilians in Gaza?

There are no civilians in Gaza. Release my fellow AMERICAN