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U.S. State Dept to Use AI to Revoke Visas of Foreign Students with Alleged Ties to Hamas


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8 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

You don't have to be an American citizen to have rights in the US.

If they reside legally in the US they have Constitutional Rights to Due Process of Law as well as ALL the Constitutional Amendments. "We the People" is not limited by creed, race, nationality, gender, etc.

There is no clause in the Constitution denying rights on the basis of legality or otherwise of residence. 
 

 

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3 hours ago, WDSmart said:

Although non-citizens are not guaranteed all the rights citizens are, isn't this discrimination based on their political choices? In other words, wouldn't this violate their freedom of speech if they were citizens?

It seems different to be showing support to a terrorist organisation versus a political party?  I can't see the US wanting to throw someone out for supporting the British Conservative or Labour Party.

 

Might be some value in that though.... 😂

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First one down. :clap2:

 

State Department revokes first visa of foreign student linked to 'Hamas-supporting disruptions'

"Yesterday evening, we revoked the first visa of an alien who was previously cited for criminal behavior in connection with Hamas-supporting disruptions," the State Department said. "This individual was a university student. ICE will proceed with removing this person from the country."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/state-department-revokes-first-visa-011428166.html

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Do they have any chances of "Appeal" where the innocent one was wrongly caught up in the automated search net, to prove he/she isn't anything dangerous?

 

At this time, AI is far from perfect.

They often mistake harmless comments on YouTube contents, for "Hate Speech".

 

Not every Arab won't be a terrorist/or their sympathizer.

Some (westernized one)  genuinely escapes from own oppressive home, to the free country.

 

Just a question from my curiosity...

 

 

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I suspect if a person is in country on a student visa and they engage in protests that promote terrorist groups and violence or threats to other groups that is reasonable grounds to terminate their visa and expel them.  Not sure of any nation on earth where this wouldn't be grounds for expulsion.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

 

Excellent, and completely logical; why would America want any foreign nationals in their country that support designated terrorist organisations. No doubt the usual left wing suspects on this forum will be crying about it, in fact, they are already.

 

 

Indeed...........🤔

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59 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

All actions by Government age vies are subject to the Constitution, the law and may be challenged in court.

 

The U.S. is not yet a dictatorship. 

 

Hi, thank you for your insightful comment.

Have a good day.

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A post making an off topic attempt at diversion has been removed along with replies.

 

The topic here is:

 

U.S. State Dept to Use AI to Revoke Visas of Foreign Students with Alleged Ties to Hamas

 

 

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Posted
6 hours ago, JimGant said:

Good. No reason why Americans have to tolerate no-value-added trash in our country. Maybe the Air Force will loan one of their C-17s, now being used to cart undesirables back to South America, to reunite these Hamas bums with their camels.

Another waste of taxpayers' money.

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1 hour ago, placnx said:

Another waste of taxpayers' money.

 

How is it a waste of taxpayers money to deport foreign nationals that support terrorist organisations from America … please explain, if you can ¯\_()_/¯

 

 

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28 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

How is it a waste of taxpayers money to deport foreign nationals that support terrorist organisations from America … please explain, if you can ¯\_()_/¯

 

 

He can't, a weak deflection. He'd obviously rather keep them in the US to carry on there scum activities.

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9 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:


The Constitution only withholds two rights from non citizens, the right to vote and the right to hold Federal Government Office, all other rights under the constitution are held by all person within the U.S. and its jurisdiction.

 

 

How about the 2nd Amendment? Do you think illegal immigrants have the right to buy and carry firearms?

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9 hours ago, Srikcir said:

You don't have to be an American citizen to have rights in the US.

If they reside legally in the US they have Constitutional Rights to Due Process of Law as well as ALL the Constitutional Amendments. "We the People" is not limited by creed, race, nationality, gender, etc.

 

ALL the Constitutional Amendments? are you sure about that. Personally I think the 2nd Amendment does not allow illegal aliens to possess firearms.

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9 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:


The Constitution only withholds two rights from non citizens, the right to vote and the right to hold Federal Government Office, all other rights under the constitution are held by all person within the U.S. and its jurisdiction.

 

There are historical examples of these rights being withheld from certain groups, usually on the basis of race. Those being some of the most shameful episodes in the abuse of Government power 

 

So yes, foreign students do have the rights of freedom of speech and freedom of association under the Constitution, but also infringement of constitutional rights is and always has been part of the abuse of Government power.

 

Court cases will undoubtedly follow.

 

 

Court cases will undoubtedly follow.

 

Predictions predictions, who cares if there are court cases anyway? It seems you are looking forward to any that may occur.  Meanwhile its a basic application of immigration law, those here on a visa found to be ineligible for that visa, can have their visa revoked. Its really that simple.

 

‘any alien who . . . endorses or espouses terrorist activity or persuades others to endorse or espouse terrorist activity or support a terrorist organization.’”

 

https://ago.mo.gov/attorney-general-bailey-calls-for-removal-of-student-visa-holders-who-support-terrorist-groups/

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