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3 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Here is what Trump has done for America!:

Only 13 Presidents failed to get re-elected. Only 5 Presidents failed to win the popular vote. Only 4 Presidents have been impeached or resigned. Only 1 President has ever been criminally indicted. And only ONE President has done ALL FOUR. -

 

DJT didn't lower taxes (He deferred them) -

He didn't get Americans that healthcare coverage -

He did not unite the USA, he divided it -

He didn't lower prescription drug prices -

He didn't get roads or bridges built He didn't decrease the deficit -

He didn't end the opioid crisis -

He made over 250 visits to his golf clubs costing us taxpayers $150 million -

He didn't revive the coal industry -

He didn't make covid-19 'disappear' He didn't make Mexico pay for the wall 

He is ranked the worst President in history 

He added $2 Billion a month in tariff costs to the American consumer

He has a net-negative jobs creations for his administration 

He decreased corporate taxes, passing the tax burden to the workers 

He added $ 7.8 Trillion to the deficit - a full 25% of the total deficit 

He incited an insurrection against our government 

He is the only president to never achieve 50% approval. 

He didn't put "America first" and he sure didn't "Drain the Swamp... 

He left office with the worst job numbers of any President since the Great Depression with a net job loss over his term 

He is the first former president to be a CONVICTED FELON (34 times). 

The presidency is very much about character. Trump is a lowlife convicted felon.

 

If he knocks sense into Ukraine and gets them to end the war it's good enough for me.

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On 3/9/2025 at 6:53 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

 

 

Eventually, humans will join the dinosaurs in the garbage bin of failed species, and hopefully the next version will be kinder to each other and care for the environment more than the present barbarians running the human world.

We are doomed !

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On 3/9/2025 at 3:19 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

Yes, and all that covid nonsense and claiming that driving a car was destroying the planet.

If only you could get yourself to study the nonsense called "physics" eliminating all ather facebook nonsense that is your source of information you would automatically stop posting your habitual nonsense here. Try it!

 

To understand the world it doesn't take facebook, it takes physics,

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9 minutes ago, swissie said:

If only you could get yourself to study the nonsense called "physics" eliminating all ather facebook nonsense that is your source of information you would automatically stop posting your habitual nonsense here. Try it!

 

To understand the world it doesn't take facebook, it takes physics,

Given you think I use facethingy I can discount the rest of your post as nonsense.

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4 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Given you think I use facethingy I can discount the rest of your post as nonsense.

Uoii! So where does your information come from? Certainly not by studiying basic physics. Try it, it's the pathway to your enlightenment in todays world.

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24 minutes ago, swissie said:

Uoii! So where does your information come from? Certainly not by studiying basic physics. Try it, it's the pathway to your enlightenment in todays world.

I prefer to study human behaviour, which, unlike physics, makes very little sense. What sort of intelligent species kills for no reason?

 

I'm not foolish enough to use social media and such like garbage to gain information.

 

BTW I use physics every day to live better.

Posted
29 minutes ago, bannork said:

Donald's handling of the economy gets short shrift from the markets.

 

I scorn "the markets". Gambling where only the rich win in the long term.

Up to the "markets" we'd still be living in the 18th century where the nobility lived lives of decadence and the rest of us, like my ancestors, lived in hovels and died at 40 from overwork and bad food.

Posted
16 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Obviously Trump can't implement a "5 Year Plan" to "force" Aemrican companies to relocate. He's not Stalin and the US is not Soviet Russia.

 

However, he is deftly forcing FOREIGN companies to pay more to sell in the US and making THEIR products more expensive. Obviously this will make US made products cheaper by comparison and secure and create US jobs.

 

Not to mention the additional money hat will flow into the US as additional revenue from the tariffs themselves.

 

Rather than "decimate" the US economy Trump is protecting the US economy from cheapear and better competition. Very sensible.

 

 


Deftly forcing Americans to pay more for rubbish. Deftly forcing them to buy inferior products.  USA! USA! USA!

Why not deftly raise manufacturing standards in the US? Why not deftly compete with - as you said it - better and cheaper products to become more competitive in the world market?

Tariffs and protectionism only take you backwards. But it's fun to watch the US self destruct, carry on!

Posted
On 3/9/2025 at 7:03 AM, JAG said:

I for one think it's rather simpler;

 

Trump is a narcissist. He thrives on being the center of attention - the poses with a resolute jaw, ( reminds me irresistibly of newsreel footage of Mussolini), the cameras, the staged events, the charades of signing the executive orders. His view and understanding of the political process is simplified to himself versus the rest,their opposition to him is seen as victimisation. It is all about Donald Trump.

 

He is amoral and feels no empathy.The.impact of his actions and their consequences are of no interest to him. It is all about Donald Trump.

 

He is backed and manipulated by an oligarchy which don't really care what he wants, what he does, what happens, as long as they have the power to enrich themselves even more. They have a plan,  to cement themselves in power and make themselves richer. Trump? I don't think he has a plan beyond being the center of attention. For him, it is all about Donald Trump.

 

 

 

Narcissist?  Yes I agree.  Pretty much goes with the job for anyone that has run the last 30 years.  And he is absolutely in love with the camera.  But amoral?  No I think he believes he is saving the USA.  And in some ways he is doing many things that have needed doing for a long time.

 

This DOGE thing so hated by the left is exactly what needed to happen.  It should have happened back in the Clinton/Bush/Obama eras before the debt got this large.  it will hurt now but has to be done to save the USA from a major recession which in turn would cause a worldwide recession. 

 

Regarding these tariff wars there are other reasons than saving jobs.  In the case of China force equal competition.  If they want to sell their stuff in the US with no tariff then don't impose one on US products there.  I approve.  In the case of Canada and Mexico I am unsure where we stood on equal trade.  I do know part of Trumps comments have been demanding a better effort to control fentanyl smuggling through them into the USA which causes over 70,000 deaths in the US annually.  Mind you we could also do a better job of lowering demand via enforcement of users.

 

I don't approve of every action Trump takes.  I do not understand his stance on Ukraine.  Or some of the tariffs.  But I don't pretend I know enough to judge.  I'll wait and see the results.  All I can do.

 

Posted
17 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Here is what Trump has done for America!:

Only 13 Presidents failed to get re-elected. Only 5 Presidents failed to win the popular vote. Only 4 Presidents have been impeached or resigned. Only 1 President has ever been criminally indicted. And only ONE President has done ALL FOUR. -

 

DJT didn't lower taxes (He deferred them) -

He didn't get Americans that healthcare coverage -

He did not unite the USA, he divided it -

He didn't lower prescription drug prices -

He didn't get roads or bridges built He didn't decrease the deficit -

He didn't end the opioid crisis -

He made over 250 visits to his golf clubs costing us taxpayers $150 million -

He didn't revive the coal industry -

He didn't make covid-19 'disappear' He didn't make Mexico pay for the wall 

He is ranked the worst President in history 

He added $2 Billion a month in tariff costs to the American consumer

He has a net-negative jobs creations for his administration 

He decreased corporate taxes, passing the tax burden to the workers 

He added $ 7.8 Trillion to the deficit - a full 25% of the total deficit 

He incited an insurrection against our government 

He is the only president to never achieve 50% approval. 

He didn't put "America first" and he sure didn't "Drain the Swamp... 

He left office with the worst job numbers of any President since the Great Depression with a net job loss over his term 

He is the first former president to be a CONVICTED FELON (34 times). 

The presidency is very much about character. Trump is a lowlife convicted felon.

You screamed that to the heavens, and more;

You lost. We elected him, the majority of the country, the swing states.

We read your list and laughed at you.

Real Americans want their nation to thrive.

You dont. You lost. Lost. Loser. And now you hate us all, your fellow citizens.

Hate hate hate

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