British Couple's Thailand Dream Becomes Legal Nightmare

[CCesar]

9 hours ago, CLUBBER said:

Why do people still invest money in this country ? Own a property or properties back in your own "farangland" where there is transparency and rule of law . Then just rent here in Thailand this way if you have bad neighbors or the country/government begins to go to 💩 you can just pack up and move 👍🏼

I totally agree, because once you have investments, it is not all that easy to pack up and go, considering a loss in exchange rates selling, plus starting all over again, especially at retirement age and up. 

[neverere]

On 3/10/2025 at 10:57 AM, daveAustin said:

2023

 

At times, Thailand's regression into third world mentality is deeply worrying. Anyone, esp foreigners, can find themselves in trouble real quick. Best not to argue with the natives, even when in the right, though of course if you're getting shafted, what do you do...

Hope these guys find justice and can move on.

Regression?

 

[advancebooking]

On 3/10/2025 at 11:27 AM, IvorBiggun2 said:

 

They could be leasing the land. Doh

correct. they had a 30 yr lease

[advancebooking]

On 3/10/2025 at 12:46 PM, GroveHillWanderer said:

Try watching the CCTV footage. I think it's fairly apparent who were the most serious and violent aggressors here. 

 

Incidentally, according to an article in the Middlesbrough Evening Gazette, the other couple involved were a British man with a Thai wife, not a Thai couple. 

 

https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/des-mary-byrne-thailand-attack-31161162

do you have a link that has the video on this attack

[advancebooking]

On 3/10/2025 at 2:02 PM, renaissanc said:

Des and Mary ... you're doing this all wrong. 

Hire a lawyer and ask him to contact Khun Noom on Channel 33. 
https://www.youtube.com/@honekrasaeofficial

Have the lawyer write to the accusers to say that he will be contacting the programme. If this doesn't scare them off, then have the lawyer write to Noom.

Noom will invite the three of you to the programme (12:35 p.m.) together with the attackers. The whole country will hear about the attack. 

I don't believe the attackers will dare to pursue the court case when they know what is going to happen.

They may say: "I have connections!" No "connections" will dare to get involved in the case because they know about Hone Krasae.

This is the solution to your problem. How do I know? I've watched the programme over many years.

it is a smart strategy 'power of the press'. Ive never heard of this guy before. But some of his videos have millions of views. 

[GroveHillWanderer]

10 hours ago, advancebooking said:

do you have a link that has the video on this attack

Yes, it was already posted on this thread, on the first page.

 

 

 

[Spock]

On 3/10/2025 at 3:07 PM, MalcolmB said:

Brit probably got a bit lippy with the Thais.

And got a fat lip. 
It amazes me how some farangs, and especially us Brits, think they can talk down and yell at the locals without any consequences.

You have no idea of the facts and are just taking a wild stab at them despite CCTV evidence of aggression and the advanced years of the couple. If you are going to speculate, make it about how the couple managed to buy land rather than how their behaviour brought all this upon themselves.

[Spock]

On 3/10/2025 at 10:05 PM, Shocked farang said:

Well, we don't know what happened exactly. But if there was a loss of face, it could have been what triggered the violent "Muay Thai" reaction from the couple. Many foreigners will never fully understand that Thai social system operates under a "face saving" framework. You just cannot go against that in Thailand. 

Did you ever catch up with the actual facts - that the young guy is British, not Thai?

[Jim Blue]

On 3/12/2025 at 2:03 PM, CCesar said:

I totally agree, because once you have investments, it is not all that easy to pack up and go, considering a loss in exchange rates selling, plus starting all over again, especially at retirement age and up. 

One Thai case  in hundreds of  thousands goes  wrong ? .. ....of course in the West no one ever had a bad tenant  .haha 

[Shocked farang]

12 minutes ago, Spock said:

Did you ever catch up with the actual facts - that the young guy is British, not Thai?

OK, thank you for telling me. This of course changes everything. 

[1happykamper]

On 3/10/2025 at 10:26 AM, webfact said:

"superficial injuries and mental anguish" to their attackers.

Seriously? I think eventually they got a fine. But they sold their home to cover legal expenses? What? How did they own the house? It's a stupid lawsuit. Why worry. Get in a plane and leave. 

 

Things don't add up. 

 

However if the counter lawsuit is true... then that's about as mucked up ad I've heard in the LOS 

[1happykamper]

On 3/10/2025 at 11:46 AM, GroveHillWanderer said:

This is a link to the Sun article about this. It contains more details and has CCTV video of the altercation. 

 

 

Brit couple's legal nightmare

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/33737639/brit-couple-retired-thailand-beaten-neighbours-prison

Yikes. Really nasty neighbors. However both The husband and wife got beaten because they just wouldn't walk away. Never be "right" sitting in a hospital bed. Not worth it. 

[NoshowJones]

On 3/10/2025 at 12:50 PM, FritsSikkink said:

Nonsense, done it multiple times and am still here.

Many times in the last 20 years I have stopped Thai's from queue jumping although not being rude about it, and never once have any of them complained.

[advancebooking]

15 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

Yes, it was already posted on this thread, on the first page.

 

 

 

I watched the video. I cannot believe what I saw there. 2 complete ferals taking it out on a nice old English couple. Unbelievable. 

[advancebooking]

5 hours ago, Spock said:

You have no idea of the facts and are just taking a wild stab at them despite CCTV evidence of aggression and the advanced years of the couple. If you are going to speculate, make it about how the couple managed to buy land rather than how their behaviour brought all this upon themselves.

They had a 30 yr lease and did not buy the land as you say

[Peterphuket]

On 3/11/2025 at 6:32 AM, SongSomSoda said:

they choosed thailand as retirement desitination. why? because of the warm weather and temples or what?  

 

no rocket science that this will end badly. 

 

thailand is okay for some weeks holiday but living there ? geez!  especially as eldery you dont want 30+ degrees every day.

What nonsense, I moved here when I was 50, now I'm 77, can you do the maths?
Never regretted it, from that country in the EU, from which I come from I wouldn't even want to be found dead.
But everyone has different experiences, that's true.

[Peterphuket]

On 3/12/2025 at 4:42 AM, CLUBBER said:

Why do people still invest money in this country ? Own a property or properties back in your own "farangland" where there is transparency and rule of law . Then just rent here in Thailand this way if you have bad neighbors or the country/government begins to go to 💩 you can just pack up and move 👍🏼

In the Netherlands where small investors own and rent out a house try to sell it again as soon as possible.
The big culprit there is tax.
Then I'd rather own a condo in Thailand anyway.

[Webfoot]

I’ve never lived in Thailand but I have been vacationing here for the past 27 years or so on a yearly basis.  The number of altercations I’ve had I can count on one hand and all of them have been with other foreigners.

[advancebooking]

1 hour ago, Peterphuket said:

In the Netherlands where small investors own and rent out a house try to sell it again as soon as possible.
The big culprit there is tax.
Then I'd rather own a condo in Thailand anyway.

Id rather own Bitcoin

[Destiny1990]

These attackers should be thrown in jail and pay millions compensation but that will never happen 

[geisha]

On 3/11/2025 at 2:20 PM, Gaccha said:

A British newspaper claims "The pair have spent every penny they own trying to clear their names". 

 

Just how much is a lawyer for a simple criminal case costing them. What on earth are they doing? 

 

I'd think it would have cost so far no more than 20,000 baht, and the trial itself would be no more than 30,000. Am I disconnected from reality?

Yes. 

[FritsSikkink]

22 hours ago, advancebooking said:

I watched the video. I cannot believe what I saw there. 2 complete ferals taking it out on a nice old English couple. Unbelievable. 

Nonsense, the older guy started with the first kick after they try to take his camera. 

[FritsSikkink]

14 hours ago, Destiny1990 said:

These attackers should be thrown in jail and pay millions compensation but that will never happen 

The old guy kicked first. "Their garden" seems to be just a couple of plants placed on a common road.

[Felton Jarvis]

Thais love to beat up the elderly and the disabled. No chance of losing especially when it's 20 Thais against two elderly farang.

[Ralf001]

Just now, Felton Jarvis said:

Thais love to beat up the elderly and the disabled. No chance of losing especially when it's 20 Thais against two elderly farang.

 

In this instance it was old brittle throwing hands at younger brittle.. and came of second best !

[Hi kwai fun]

27 minutes ago, Felton Jarvis said:

Thais love to beat up the elderly and the disabled. No chance of losing especially when it's 20 Thais against two elderly farang.

 

 Watch the video . 

Or don`t but sprout cliches none the less .... 

 

  Old bloke kicked the young man 1st . 

Then when the wives got into a scuffle . The old fella tried to intervene . That`s when he got punched . 

[BritManToo]

2 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

Nonsense, the older guy started with the first kick after they try to take his camera. 

And it was the old guy starting trouble at the young peeps front door.

Which was probably why the olds got charged, in Asia they are very protective of residents on/near their property.

 

Elderly foreigner starts trouble and gets an excessive beating.

Best to avoid all confrontation.

[Felton Jarvis]

2 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

Nonsense, the older guy started with the first kick after they try to take his camera. 

They tried to steal his camera.  How dense do you have to be to understand that it was the Thais who started it. You can't attempt to ROB someone and expect them to comply.

[FritsSikkink]

2 minutes ago, Felton Jarvis said:

They tried to steal his camera.  How dense do you have to be to understand that it was the Thais who started it. You can't attempt to ROB someone and expect them to comply.

You are dense, it was 2 Brits fighting. It is illegal in Thailand to film someone without consent, PDPA regulation.

[GroveHillWanderer]

7 hours ago, BritManToo said:

And it was the old guy starting trouble at the young peeps front door.

Which was probably why the olds got charged, in Asia they are very protective of residents on/near their property.

 

Elderly foreigner starts trouble and gets an excessive beating.

Best to avoid all confrontation.

Not sure where you're getting this from. The video starts with the young man coming onto the older couple's (leased) property, picking up their plant pots and dumping them at their front door, then waving at their camera and yelling to gain their attention. All the footage comes from the same viewing angle, so it's clear that the entire video is from a CCTV camera at or above the older couple's front door and everything we see takes place in front of their house.

 

This is also made clear by the narrative of the events in the interview they gave to The Sun newspaper. And although the older guy did aim a slight kick at the younger guy, even if he made slight contact (which it's not clear that he did) that is absolutely no justification whatsoever for prolonged frenzy of violence he was then subjected to. 

 

The older guy was punched twenty-two times in the head, after he was already lying unconscious on the ground. And these were not light taps, these were full swings of each arm, against a motionless, unconscious and therefore defenceless older opponent. In what universe is that justified by an attempted kick out that as far as I can tell, might not even have landed?