Ukraine must cede territory in peace talks, says US

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, transam said:

Sunbeam, you have been reading to many of your leaders KGB paperbacks, you now cannot tell the wood from the trees, in fact you are like Trump, embarrassing...........😒

 

You waffle on about the USA, the war has sod all to do with the USA, it is solely your hero's agenda to reinstate the Communist borders, land grab, but you fall for your leader's BS, every time.

Your hero has killed thousands just for his dream, and you, and others, fall for it....🤨

 

 

P.S. Stop guessing at what I do or not do, makes you look stupid.....

The irony of you calling someone else stupid goes way over your head. 

 

The war has sod all to do with the USA? Were you being serious when you typed that

Putin has been in power 20 yrs, he's not doing too well reinstating those old borders is he. 

 

P.s I couldn't care what you do, you're an OAP, nothing you do is of any interest to me.

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, gargamon said:

The captured Russian orcs admitted it.

Yeah right, of course they did, and I guess CNN were there when they got captured and live streamed the event.

[transam]

1 minute ago, frank83628 said:

The irony of you calling someone else stupid goes way over your head. 

 

The war has sod all to do with the USA? Were you being serious when you typed that

Putin has been in power 20 yrs, he's not doing too well reinstating those old borders is he. 

 

P.s I couldn't care what you do, you're an OAP, nothing you do is of any interest to me.

It wouldn't be of any interest to you because you get buried daily, comrade...

 

The only thing you depend on is "You're an OAP", when in fact, both your heros are OAP's.....🤣

 

Classic, just classic..............

[transam]

2 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Yeah right, of course they did, and I guess CNN were there when they got captured and live streamed the event.

Denial, denial..................

[frank83628]

12 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

The probably logical explanation is that Trump has been compromised to betrayed the values that you cherished that resulted in this tragic spectacle. Speculation that he is allegedly recruited as a Russia spy in 1987 has surfaced by a former KGB official and that his personal KGB file is in the hands of Putin. 

Yeah right..... haha, that's the best one on the thread so far. Off with the fairies.

And you guys mock Alex Jones for conspiracies 

[frank83628]

6 minutes ago, transam said:

It wouldn't be of any interest to you because you get buried daily, comrade...

 

The only thing you depend on is "You're an OAP", when in fact, both your heros are OAP's.....🤣

 

Classic, just classic..............

But they're both world leaders running countries, you're just typing crap on ASEAN now.

 

P.s there is a lot more to say that just OAP, however I wouldnt want to break forum rules

[Eric Loh]

3 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Yeah right..... haha, that's the best one on the thread so far. Off with the fairies.

And you guys mock Alex Jones for conspiracies 

I did qualified that as speculation. Why so jumpy? Almost to tears. 

[Harrisfan]

8 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

But but but Obama …. Biden.

12 years vs 4. Nuff said.

[transam]

4 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

But they're both world leaders running countries, you're just typing crap on ASEAN now.

 

P.s there is a lot more to say that just OAP, however I wouldnt want to break forum rules

That is all you've got, you are brainwashed...................🤕

 

Plus, you do not realise that YOU are doing what you have just posted..😂

 

You can't make this sh_t up........

[Harrisfan]

10 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

But they're both world leaders running countries, you're just typing crap on ASEAN now.

 

P.s there is a lot more to say that just OAP, however I wouldnt want to break forum rules

But his messages are important to him. 

[xylophone]

10 hours ago, Social Media said:

Ukraine must give up land to Russia as part of any agreement to end the war, US secretary of state Marco Rubio has suggested.

Is this the same Marco Rubio who promised the US would protect Ukraine if they gave up their nuclear weapons??

Two-faced SOB and that goes for his orange leader as well and neither of them can be trusted, so why should this deal be any different without some guarantees in place.

[steven100]

Trash Trump has turned on the world and US allies.   NO ONE WILL TRUST THE US's WORD EVER AGAIN and rightly so.  

 

why should Ukraine give up land to an invading neighbor?      that's just bs. 

just keep bombing Moscow.   It's a shame Ukraine didn't keep a few nukes locked away,   and it's a shame that shooter who blew Trash trumps ear off didn't have his glasses on.   

[transam]

4 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Is this the same Marco Rubio who promised the US would protect Ukraine if they gave up their nuclear weapons??

Two-faced SOB and that goes for his orange leader as well and neither of them can be trusted, so why should this deal be any different without some guarantees in place.

Trump would have held his hands up to Hitler, the orange two faced cretin..........😒 

[steven100]

9 hours ago, billd766 said:

WTF has it got to do with the USA.

 

The Ukraine is NOT a US territory, and the USA is no longer trusted in the real world.

 

IMHO the USA is, or was, simply a supplier.

 

They have NO right or authority to speak on behalf of the Ukraine. legally and certainly not morally.

absolutely correct Bill,     the US doesn't own Ukraine but the way they talk you'd think they did.  idiots !!

[WorriedNoodle]

6 hours ago, frank83628 said:

Would you accept the referendum results if Putin won?

Putains is a dictator. Dictators don't do referendums - remember?

[rough diamond]

13 minutes ago, WorriedNoodle said:

Putains is a dictator. Dictators don't do referendums - remember?

They do but only in a country/region that they control the vote count, if any.

They normally just announce the result in their 99.999% favour.

[frank83628]

59 minutes ago, WorriedNoodle said:

Putains is a dictator. Dictators don't do referendums - remember?

You might have been told that by your media, but in reality he is a well respected leader and has massive support by his people.

How many western leaders are respected on the same level..

[TedG]

1 hour ago, xylophone said:

Is this the same Marco Rubio who promised the US would protect Ukraine if they gave up their nuclear weapons??

Two-faced SOB and that goes for his orange leader as well and neither of them can be trusted, so why should this deal be any different without some guarantees in place.

 

When did Rubio make this promise?   The deal you are talking about happen in 1994.

 

In 1994, Ukraine agreed to transfer these weapons to Russia for dismantlement and became a party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, in exchange for economic compensation and assurances from Russia, the United States and United Kingdom to respect the Ukrainian independence and sovereignty

 

Marco Rubio was not even a government official until 2000. 

[TedG]

6 hours ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

Putin didn't want any of Ukraine.

 

He wanted the Minsk accords to be implemented and an end to ethnic cleansing.

Huh?

[Cameroni]

1 hour ago, steven100 said:

 

 

why should Ukraine give up land to an invading neighbor?      that's just bs. 

j

Because the Ukrainians, much like their armchair supporters, are losers, it is just common sense. Ukraine is being decimated on the battlefield as we speak. Since their economy is a fraction of the size of Russia it is plain to see that in a long conflict Russia will prevail. Ukraine has to give up territory. No other sensible alternative.

[nauseus]

11 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

But but but Obama …. Biden.

But but you didn't answer the question.

[daveAustin]

9 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

FFS Why?

Exactly. Easy for them to say. Imagine US government willingly giving up the eastern seaboard to Putin, for example, or he will turn the entire country to ash? Alright Ukraine is in a bind, but the Yanks have no real empathy since they have never been invaded (revolutionary wars don't count, where the Brits 'beat' themselves). Getting into bed with Russia on this is sickening. America, you have sold your soul.

[xylophone]

1 hour ago, TedG said:

 

When did Rubio make this promise?   The deal you are talking about happen in 1994.

 

In 1994, Ukraine agreed to transfer these weapons to Russia for dismantlement and became a party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, in exchange for economic compensation and assurances from Russia, the United States and United Kingdom to respect the Ukrainian independence and sovereignty

 

Marco Rubio was not even a government official until 2000. 

 I have posted it before so here it is again........what value is the word of the US??

[TedG]

5 minutes ago, xylophone said:

 I have posted it before so here it is again........what value is the word of the US??

1) Rubio was had nothing to do with this agreement.

2) Rubio was in the Senate.

3) Who was POTUS in 2014 when Russia stole Crimean?

4) Who was PUTUS when Putin invaded Ukraine. 

5) Putin is not leaving Ukraine, what is your solution? 

[frank83628]

7 minutes ago, xylophone said:

 I have posted it before so here it is again........what value is the word of the US??

Trump is whole new ball game, not a corrupted politician, cry every night you weak half man. Your Lefty BS is done,  so many weak men on this site. 

[TedG]

51 minutes ago, daveAustin said:

Exactly. Easy for them to say. Imagine US government willingly giving up the eastern seaboard to Putin, for example, or he will turn the entire country to ash? Alright Ukraine is in a bind, but the Yanks have no real empathy since they have never been invaded (revolutionary wars don't count, where the Brits 'beat' themselves). Getting into bed with Russia on this is sickening. America, you have sold your soul.

Putin is not leaving unless he is forced to leave.  What is your solution? 

[rough diamond]

25 minutes ago, xylophone said:

 I have posted it before so here it is again........what value is the word of the US??

The square root of naff all.

 

PS; Naff is a polite way of not using the "F" word!

 

 

[dinsdale]

The Kursk incursion is in imminent danger of collapse. This is massive for Ukraine. They'll lose their only card on the negotiation table along with massive amounts of top tier troops and equipment. Russia is on the move even faster now as winter draws to an end an it's time for Zelenskyy to see the writing on the wall. This is a non emotive assessment based on what's actually happening. Not taking sides just being rational. I wonder how many rational responses I'll get. Probably lots of negative emojis from those on here that lack any ability to rationally argue against this.

[dinsdale]

8 hours ago, gargamon said:

Really? It was supposed to take 3 days to get Kyiv. It's been over 3 years.

It's a fair point so why weren't the Russians pushed straight back into Russia at this time. Could've been just needed the support from the West. It didn't come. The West wanted the war to continue. 

[kwonitoy]

14 hours ago, hotsun said:

A world without war, i thought thats what the majority of folks wanted. Turns out not, as long as the keyboard warriors here arent the ones fighting

 

And a keyboard appeaser wants to settle by surrendering ill gotten territory

 

russia leaves ukraine, war over.

See how easy that was.