Previously when it posted new claims, DOGE, Mr. Musk’s government-restructuring effort, had included identifying details about the cuts it took credit for. That allowed the public to fact-check its work by comparing its figures with federal spending databases and talking to the groups whose funding had been cut.

This time, it did not include those details.

https://archive.ph/FDNDI#selection-693.0-693.43

 

The one thing transparent about Doge is its massive commitment to hiding its incompetence.

Anyway, its latest effort failed at first thanks to the release of some embedded source code that the Times was able to use to fact check.

Subsequently, Musk has removed even that code so fact-checking is now, apparently, impossible.

So DOGE has figured out how to make it more difficult for the Times and other Trump hating media outlets to sabotage the Administration’s efforts to cut waste and fraud. 

 

Kudos to Musk and the merry Muskrats!

Just now, mogandave said:

So DOGE has figured out how to make it more difficult for the Times and other Trump hating media outlets to sabotage the Administration’s efforts to cut waste and fraud. 

 

Kudos to Musk and the merry Muskrats!

You mean they've made it impossible to fact check their claims. Are you actually unaware of how error-ridden Doge's claims are? Exposing falsehoods is sabotage? If Doge has to repeatedly make massive fraudulent claims to justify its activity, maybe that should be a cause for concern? 

Why would I trust the NYT to fact-check anything? 

 

I do not care if they said $50M for condoms and it turned out to be $50M for condoms, abortions, and gender affirming care. 

 

https://doge.gov

7 hours ago, mogandave said:

Why would I trust the NYT to fact-check anything? 

 

I do not care if they said $50M for condoms and it turned out to be $50M for condoms, abortions, and gender affirming care. 

 

https://doge.gov

There's another topic running in this  forum about CNN falsely correcting an assertion by Trump. Conservative media was all over them about their mistake. What that should tell you, and apparently doesn't, is that right wing media is watching media they consider to be libera,l progressive, or Marxist like hawks or maybe like what big cats waiting to pounce.

Now the New York Times has released a vast amount of detailed reports about the falsehoods promulgated by Doge. So far, the right wing media has offered virtually no fact checking challenging these reports. In other words, it's only if you don't live in the real world that you can believe the New York Times could get away with lying about what Musk and Doge are up to without fact-checking pushback from various right-wing media sources. 

 

7 hours ago, placeholder said:

There's another topic running in this  forum about CNN falsely correcting an assertion by Trump. Conservative media was all over them about their mistake. What that should tell you, and apparently doesn't, is that right wing media is watching media they consider to be libera,l progressive, or Marxist like hawks or maybe like what big cats waiting to pounce.

Now the New York Times has released a vast amount of detailed reports about the falsehoods promulgated by Doge. So far, the right wing media has offered virtually no fact checking challenging these reports. In other words, it's only if you don't live in the real world that you can believe the New York Times could get away with lying about what Musk and Doge are up to without fact-checking pushback from various right-wing media sources. 

 

So?

15 hours ago, mogandave said:

Why would I trust the NYT to fact-check anything? 

 

I do not care if they said $50M for condoms and it turned out to be $50M for condoms, abortions, and gender affirming care. 

 

https://doge.gov

Folks that support secretly stealing from the American taxpayer via cut outs and NGOs and machine politics complaining about transparency

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Folks that support secretly stealing from the American taxpayer via cut outs and NGOs and machine politics complaining about transparency

Typical vague charges and characterizing activities as stealing. You mean stealing as in criminal theft?

13 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Typical vague charges and characterizing activities as stealing. You mean stealing as in criminal theft?

No, diverting funds to NGOs, left and right. 

 

23 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Typical vague charges and characterizing activities as stealing. You mean stealing as in criminal theft?

Here comes the LG washing machine.

 

Stealing is also civil under American law, but you wouldnt know that.

 

Tell us about the money directed to Stacy Abrams NGO?

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

Here comes the LG washing machine.

 

Stealing is also civil under American law, but you wouldnt know that.

 

Tell us about the money directed to Stacy Abrams NGO?

Deflecting much? The fact is that Elon Musk has now made it impossible for his claims to be fact-checked.  Why would an honest person do that? Of course, it is not surprising from someone whose massive falsehoods have repeatedly been exposed.

37 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Deflecting much? The fact is that Elon Musk has now made it impossible for his claims to be fact-checked.  Why would an honest person do that? Of course, it is not surprising from someone whose massive falsehoods have repeatedly been exposed.

Why is it important that the "public" be able to fact-check his claims? 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

Deflecting much? The fact is that Elon Musk has now made it impossible for his claims to be fact-checked.  Why would an honest person do that? Of course, it is not surprising from someone whose massive falsehoods have repeatedly been exposed.

Name the "massive falsehoods".

Did you ever want to check anything before in your government, or is it just now, when you join the screeching Trump phobics?? 

8 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Name the "massive falsehoods".

Did you ever want to check anything before in your government, or is it just now, when you join the screeching Trump phobics?? 

Here comes Sir Linksalot....

 

 

17 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Name the "massive falsehoods".

Did you ever want to check anything before in your government, or is it just now, when you join the screeching Trump phobics?? 

How about claiming an 8 billion dollar saving when it was actually 8 million?

That's just one of many.

4 minutes ago, placeholder said:

How about claiming an 8 billion dollar saving when it was actually 8 million?

That's just one of many.

So? 8 million's better than nothing. 

 

 

23 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Name the "massive falsehoods".

Did you ever want to check anything before in your government, or is it just now, when you join the screeching Trump phobics?? 

Here you go, some reading material for you. And this doesn't include the latest 

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/conormurray/2025/02/19/here-are-the-biggest-doge-hoaxes-and-inaccuracies-as-8-million-canceled-ice-contract-listed-at-8-billion/

Just now, Dan O said:

Here you go, some reading material for you. And this doesn't include the latest 

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/conormurray/2025/02/19/here-are-the-biggest-doge-hoaxes-and-inaccuracies-as-8-million-canceled-ice-contract-listed-at-8-billion/

Almost all of those have been debunked 

 

Workforce | DOGE: Department of Government Efficiency

9 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

So? 8 million's better than nothing. 

 

 

You horrible people! How dare you accuse of us of stealing 8 billion? It was only $8 million! Liars! Scum!

Just now, Yagoda said:

You horrible people! How dare you accuse of us of stealing 8 billion? It was only $8 million! Liars! Scum!

Exactly. 

7 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

So? 8 million's better than nothing. 

 

 

Another example of truthiness. A claim can be exaggerated a thousand times but that's somehow legit.

6 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

 

Workforce | DOGE: Department of Government Efficiency

Wow. Never been anything that transparent before about Government waste and spending.

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

You horrible people! How dare you accuse of us of stealing 8 billion? It was only $8 million! Liars! Scum!

Except it wasn't theft. It was a canceled contract. Stop making things up.

Just now, placeholder said:

Except it wasn't theft. It was a canceled contract. Stop making things up.

Contract to who and for what? 

Just now, placeholder said:

Another example of truthiness. A claim can be exaggerated a thousand times but that's somehow legit.

If you were a taxpaying American, you would be pissed off and jumping for joy.

9 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Almost all of those have been debunked 

Debunked in that musk mislead with his original information and got caught and had to go back and correct his data. 

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

Except it wasn't theft. It was a canceled contract. Stop making things up.

Thats correct. He had quite a few completed or previously canceled or amended contracts that he was listing as found monies. 

 

 

 

What about that is transparent? Do you know what transparent means? It doesn't seem like it.

 

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Wow. Never been anything that transparent before about Government waste and spending.

 

 

Just now, Dan O said:

Debunked in that musk mislead with his original information and got caught and had to go back and correct his data. 

Musk only had to correct a few of them, the media lied about most of them. 

 

Any Obama, Biden and Harris are still lying and have refused to go back and correct anything.