The new enemy: The rest of the world.

[swissie]

The US has found a new enemy. The communists are gone, but now the US has basically declared economical war to the rest of the world. OR: Every country that sells more in the US than it buys from the US is considered a economical adversary.

 

A trade deficit means nothing else that the products of a certain country can not compete in a globalised market. To compensate this by imposing protective tariffs is the last resort of any country to protect a domestic industry that can no more compete in a globalised market. (Outside of Silicon Valley nothing much has happened in the US in recent times).

 

Note: The US was much in favor of "globalisation", starting with Ronald Reagan.

 

Fast foreward to 2030: By then, the US will be confronted with some "Military Conflict" concerning Taiwan / South China Sea.

 

Facing the new superpower alone. Sadly, as the US will have no friends left, especially if the US should pull out of NATO. 

[Jingthing]

Yes, self destructive idiocy of the highest order.

Americans will pay dearly for this mistake for generations.

 

[NickyLouie]

  On 3/15/2025 at 4:59 PM, Jingthing said:

Yes, self destructive idiocy of the highest order.

Americans will pay dearly for this mistake for generations.

 

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[LiamB80]

Another thread started by a European to whine and moan about President Trump and America. Oh no we’re not gonna have any friends left. 

[bannork]

  On 3/15/2025 at 5:10 PM, LiamB80 said:

Another thread started by a European to whine and moan about President Trump and America. Oh no we’re not gonna have any friends left. 

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[Jingthing]

  On 3/15/2025 at 5:10 PM, LiamB80 said:

Another thread started by a European to whine and moan about President Trump and America. Oh no we’re not gonna have any friends left. 

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So you think that's OK and a good thing?

 

[SunnyinBangrak]

  On 3/15/2025 at 5:10 PM, LiamB80 said:

Another thread started by a European to whine and moan about President Trump and America. Oh no we’re not gonna have any friends left. 

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And worse, they just dont understand foreign nations impose tariffs of over 200% on certain US products. Trump tries levelling the playing field a bit and they spit the dummy. Just no point debating with such illinformed people.

[Nick Carter icp]

The USA is 37 000 000 000 $ in debt 

37 Trillion $

Other Countries will need to pay their way .

Swissies and others will need to contribute more 

[liddelljohn]

This is Gonna seem so funny in 2028  when  USA is a failed , bankrupt , chaotic failed state and the electorate is pleading for  sane , sober, logical, law abiding statesmen to run the government ,, The midterms will be excrutiating LOL

[Nick Carter icp]

  On 3/15/2025 at 5:45 PM, liddelljohn said:

This is Gonna seem so funny in 2028  when  USA is a failed , bankrupt , chaotic failed state and the electorate is pleading for  sane , sober, logical, law abiding statesmen to run the government ,, The midterms will be excrutiating LOL

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Trump is addressing those issues 

[swissie]

  On 3/15/2025 at 5:42 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

The USA is 37 000 000 000 $ in debt 

37 Trillion $

Other Countries will need to pay their way .

Swissies and others will need to contribute more 

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A good part of this dept is financed by foreigh investors by buying US T-Bills and US T-Bonds.

[Nick Carter icp]

  On 3/15/2025 at 5:56 PM, swissie said:

A good part of this dept is financed by foreigh investors by buying US T-Bills and US T-Bonds.

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  You guys need to start to help in  paying off the debt , rather than buying the debt and making a  profit 

[swissie]

  On 3/15/2025 at 6:01 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  You guys need to start to help in  paying off the debt , rather than buying the debt and making a  profit 

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Great idea! Let all the "foreighn-money" be withdrawn from the US treasury to be raplaced by "American Investors". Incresing taxes by 20% for the working class to fill the gap. Brilliant idea, this is how to make "America Great Again".

[swissie]

  On 3/15/2025 at 4:59 PM, Jingthing said:

Yes, self destructive idiocy of the highest order.

Americans will pay dearly for this mistake for generations.

 

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Remarkably, an increasing number of voters favor "strong man" to take the future of their countries into their "strong hands". Especially in "Eastern Europe".

 

No Mexican revolutionary pistoleros throwing over a gouvernment, no, they are voted into office !!!

 

Maybe (on a global scale), the "Little people" of this world realise, that in spite of constant "economic-growth", very Little of this "growth" finds is's way into their pockets, while the rich are getting richer year after year.

 

So, maybe the "little people" of this world have come to the conclusion that something must fundamentally change  concerning the current "world-order", under the motto: "It cant't get any worse for us". Let's try something new, no matter what it is.

 

A highly dangerous conclusion I find, if the electorate can't diffentiate between "Mexican Pistoleros" and well dressed "pied pipers", both persuing the same goals.

 

[blaze master]

  On 3/15/2025 at 5:28 PM, bannork said:

 

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Eh.

[Jim Blue]

  On 3/15/2025 at 6:01 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  You guys need to start to help in  paying off the debt , rather than buying the debt and making a  profit 

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Sorry but I thought that was the American way ? 

[Nick Carter icp]

  23 hours ago, Jim Blue said:

Sorry but I thought that was the American way ? 

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Apology accepted 

[JAG]

  On 3/15/2025 at 5:10 PM, LiamB80 said:

Another thread started by a European to whine and moan about President Trump and America. Oh no we’re not gonna have any friends left. 

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  On 3/15/2025 at 5:35 PM, Jingthing said:

So you think that's OK and a good thing?

 

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It will certainly help Mr Trump to maintain the fiction that the USA (and by definition him, after all, it is all about him) is being victimised!

[JAG]

  On 3/15/2025 at 6:01 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  You guys need to start to help in  paying off the debt , rather than buying the debt and making a  profit 

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Why should the Swiss, for example, pay off the USA's debt?

[Nick Carter icp]

  23 hours ago, JAG said:

Why should the Swiss, for example, pay off the USA's debt?

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   They need to pay their way and stop expecting the USA to pay for them 

[Mark1066]

  23 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   They need to pay their way and stop expecting the USA to pay for them 

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You ran up the debt by abusing the reserve currency status of the dollar. You spent the money gorging yourselves on fast food and too many toys and now you want the rest of the world to foot the bill for your wild excesses? I thought you were joking at first but perhaps you're just American.

[Nick Carter icp]

  23 hours ago, Mark1066 said:

You ran up the debt by abusing the reserve currency status of the dollar. You spent the money gorging yourselves on fast food and too many toys and now you want the rest of the world to foot the bill for your wild excesses? I thought you were joking at first but perhaps you're just American.

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  I didn't run up any debt .

You need to write "The USA" , rather than "You" 

[Nick Carter icp]

  23 hours ago, Mark1066 said:

You ran up the debt by abusing the reserve currency status of the dollar. You spent the money gorging yourselves on fast food and too many toys and now you want the rest of the world to foot the bill for your wild excesses? I thought you were joking at first but perhaps you're just American.

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   The USA needs to reduce its own debt and it can reduce its own debt by stop giving money away to other Countries and by making other Countries pay their fare share 

[Jeff the Chef]

If the USA can't handle their debt stop funding conflicts all over the globe, after all it's not winning them many friends but giving them plenty of enemies.

[gargamon]

  On 3/15/2025 at 5:49 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

Trump is addressing those issues 

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By getting rid of elections?

[Nick Carter icp]

  22 hours ago, gargamon said:

By getting rid of elections?

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   No, Trump isn't getting rid of elections , that's just the Dems pretending that they are living under a fascist state , its usually better to just go along with it 

[gargamon]

  On 3/15/2025 at 6:01 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  You guys need to start to help in  paying off the debt , rather than buying the debt and making a  profit 

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Not very bright, are you? The US has around 3% of the world's population and is the major consumer of pretty much everything.  You can't expect the rest if the world to consume at the rate the US does, and purchase goods produced by overpaid Americans which cost significantly more than those produced in countries where labor is cheap.

 

This tarrif stuff is Trump's attempt to get rid of income tax and get the billionaire tax cuts renewed.

[Nick Carter icp]

  22 hours ago, gargamon said:

Not very bright, are you?

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   OK, Let's end this discussion , otherwise it will turn into abusive exchanges .

Try to converse without the abuse in future , thanks 

[hotsun]

  22 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   OK, Let's end this discussing , otherwise it will turn into abusive exchanges .

Try to converse without the abuse in future , thanks 

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Abusive and, hes never right about anything

[Purdey]

Capitalism is about competing efficiently. American products  can't compete with countries with lower labor costs.