Hungary to Restrict LGBTQ Rights and Dual Citizenship in Proposed Constitutional Amendments

[Baht Simpson]

14 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Because those are the majority values, you can't expect to worship a three-eared bunny rabbit and ask everyone celebrate it, it's not their God.

It's not about values, it's about equality and the right to free assembly. Those shouldn't be taken away because people are in the minority as you put it. 

[Cameroni]

23 minutes ago, Baht Simpson said:

It's not about values, it's about equality and the right to free assembly. Those shouldn't be taken away because people are in the minority as you put it. 

 

The rights of the minority only exist as long as they don't offend the rights of the majoirty. Try yellinlg "fire" in a crowded theatre, your free speech will be punished severely because it interefered with the rights of the majority.

 

Absolute freedoms are an illusion and never existed.

[Baht Simpson]

17 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

The rights of the minority only exist as long as they don't offend the rights of the majoirty. Try yellinlg "fire" in a crowded theatre, your free speech will be punished severely because it interefered with the rights of the majority.

 

Absolute freedoms are an illusion and never existed.

By this measure you must agree then that Budapest Pride should go ahead, as I detailed in a previous post that 73% of Budapest residents are against banning it. It clearly doesn't offend them as it's a huge majority. 

 

Moreover, majorities aren't always morally right. Most Germans supported Naziism. 

 

Your "fire" analogy is a false equivalence as that's civil disorder and possibly a crime which free assembly isn't.

 

Minority rights are moral and equality issues and shouldn't be beholden to the misguided.  There are plenty of issues that received popular support in the past that we now see as morally reprehensible.

 

And it's not about getting absolute freedoms but retaining equality of freedoms.

[ElwoodP]

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@RayC please don't cast aspersions on other forum members.