Application for NON-O retirement (Chiang Mai)

[pub2022]

Dear all,

I'm going to apply for a visa change from exempt entry to NON O retirement at Chiang Mai Immigration Office, with money in the bank.

They're asking for Bank Saving Certificate  - seven day validity - see attachment:

What is this? What does it mean? Letter from the bank stating that...?

Thanks.

[Upnotover]

Banks have a standard letter that confirms you as the account holder and the balance on the day of the letter.  I am guessing this is what they want, issued not more than 7 days prior.

[DrJack54]

OP, that's referring to "bank letter" confirms you are owner of account and balance on day of issue of letter.

I note CM saying they want that on day of application (typical CM)

 

Here is thread to check your package of docs.

https://aseannow.com/topic/1321855-visa-exempt-to-non-o-in-chiang-mai/

 

In that thread I posted link to another thread that has good post from Red Phoenix and also from OP.

https://aseannow.com/topic/1297092-non-o-visa-retirement-purpose/

 

 

Don't forget the TM87 form.

 

[CMBob]

5 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

 I note CM saying they want that on day of application (typical CM) 

Unless this is a new requirement, it wasn't the case when I converted from exempt to Non-O three years ago.  I obtained the bank letter the day before application.  I also had the funds in the bank for a long time (as in years) so there was no need to show the funds came from abroad. 

Edit: My experience was with Chiangmai Immigration.

[DrJack54]

27 minutes ago, CMBob said:

Unless this is a new requirement, it wasn't the case when I converted from exempt to Non-O three years ago

The bank letter should be acceptable up to 7 days prior. 

Some offices want a bank book update on day of application.

I also do a deposit to show "activity" 

29 minutes ago, CMBob said:

I also had the funds in the bank for a long time (as in years) so there was no need to show the funds came from abroad

If funds have been in bank "for some time" then correct the funds do not need to be shown as international transfers.

No definition of "some time" however seen reports of eg 4 months being sufficient. 

4 weeks = Nup.

[TaoNow]

Just a side note:

 

It is a problem for me to do a same-day transaction that appears in my fixed savings account book, since that has to be done over-the-counter -- can't be done through an ATM.

 

Thus, on the day of my appointment with IMMO/CW for an annual extension of retirement (money in the bank) I need to go to the SCB bank in the morning and update my bank book, even thiough the letter authorizing the bank account can be done several days before hand (as Dr. Jack noted).

 

Ever since SCB closed their branch at the Government Complex, I have to go to the next-nearest branch to do the pass book update on the day of my extension appointment.

 

Thus, I (and many others I suspect) would greatly appreciate it if IMMO would allow bank account statements and passbook up-dates to be dated one or two days before submitting the application to extend.

 

I think that is a reasonable proposition.   But, a la Bernard the Trink, TIT.

[DrJack54]

25 minutes ago, TaoNow said:

I think that is a reasonable proposition. 

On one hand agree with you, especially given fact that SCB previously had branch at CW.

On the other hand if someone intends to deal ongoing with CW the best solution would be to change banks. 

Certainly bank letter and bank statements can be obtained up to 7 days prior (CW). 

Previously I attend Bank (Kasikorn) on day of application.

These days the banks can become more bust for the letter.

As for deposit into the account to update and show activity there is generally no que. 

I obtain the 12 month bank statement and bank letter day or two prior and 100b deposit on the day and ask teller to photocopy last page. 

[ronnie50]

I had more than enough THB in my Thai bank account, for at least a year or more, by the time I applied to change to O Visa for purposes of retirement. But I transfered more than 800k in foreign funds anyway into that account just so I could show a foreign transfer and not chance being turned away by IMM. You can try without it. Be good to know how you fare. My understanding was the first application needed to include a foreign wire transfer - then for subsequent renewals you just needed to show you had the minimum 800k in the account (for more than 3 months at renewal). Please let me know if that's not correct, but they (IMM1 at CW) certainly wanted to see the transfer (both from my home country bank and then the Thai bank incoming wire) for conformation, etc. 

[DrJack54]

51 minutes ago, ronnie50 said:

My understanding was the first application needed to include a foreign wire transfer - then for subsequent renewals you just needed to show you had the minimum 800k in the account (for more than 3 months at renewal).

Need clarify that.

Generally speaking..to apply for Non O retirement from visa exempt or tourist visa you would require 800k in Thai bank account in your name only on day of application.

The funds would need to be shown to have come from abroad. 

For some immigration offices if the funds have been in the account for "some time" then proof of international transfer not required. This sometimes comes up when eg folk with a Non O-A exit to kill off the Non O-A and start over.

 

Folk should check with their immigration office.

 

As for subsequent extensions..

You require to have maintained 800k for 3 months after application then not below 400k and back up to 800k prior to next extension.

 

Those ongoing extensions using money in bank method do NOT need to show funds from abroad

[judokrab]

17 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Need clarify that.

As for subsequent extensions..

You require to have maintained 800k for 3 months after application then not below 400k and back up to 800k prior to next extension.

 

Need to correct that.
(1) It's not "3 months after application" ... it's TWO months after APPROVAL.
(2) It's not "back up to 800k prior to next extension" ... its "back up to 800k THREE MONTHS prior to next APPLICATION.

[DrJack54]

1 hour ago, judokrab said:

Need to correct that.
(1) It's not "3 months after application" ... it's TWO months after APPROVAL.
(2) It's not "back up to 800k prior to next extension" ... its "back up to 800k THREE MONTHS prior to next APPLICATION.

Incorrect.

2 months prior to application for extension and maintained for 3 months after application. 

Not below 400k in other months

 

Edit: from AI ..

"To extend a retirement visa in Thailand, you need to maintain a bank balance of at least 800,000 baht in a Thai bank account for two months before applying, and then for three months after the extension is granted, and ensure the balance doesn't drop below 400,000 baht"