Trump’s Order Mandating Proof of Citizenship for Voter Registration Sparks Legal Concerns

[cjinchiangrai]

Just now, CallumWK said:

 

Any ID obtained before married will be tied to birth certificate, otherwise how would they be able to obtain that ID?

You are making up things much

No, Trump and Putin are making up deflections for their crimes.

[Yagoda]

4 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

No, Trump and Putin are making up deflections for their crimes.

Please set forth the "crimes" Trump and Putin are engaging in.

[Bday Prang]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I have, and that was at the time of the election, before Trump started his policies attacking farmers, attacking veterans, attacking social security, attacking Medicaid and now with more tariffs attacking all business and all consumers.

 

 

 

  Attacking farmers &welfare ?? !!    So trumps policies are no different in who they attack from the policies of starmer / reeves     I'm surprised you are not in favour of them

[sqwakvfr]

Why is this an issue?  In CA things are really goofy. I went to vote in 2008 and showed my drivers license and poll worker she said in a huff "put that away and we don't need that".  All I had to do was to say my name and my address.  Of course anyone could have said the same and could have voted in my place.  Also, for jury selection notices in Los Angeles County California DMV drivers license data information is used. One has to be an American citizen to serve on a jury but one does not have to be citizen to have a CA drivers license.   Trump has generated a lot of nonsense in the first few months but on this I agree with him. 

[BangkokReady]

3 hours ago, hotsun said:

anyone with a drivers license can vote. Why did it take so long for this to become a law

 

Presumably, someone thinks that people having to prove citizenship will impact the number of votes they will get.  🤷‍♂️

[frank83628]

42 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

No, Trump and Putin are making up deflections for their crimes.

how on earth did you come up with that in reply to the previuos comment??

That was a proper unhinged straw grasp

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

The GOP will win by an even bigger margin next time without all these illegal Dem voters.

 

The Dems are done. 

 

Go Woke, Go up in smoke (unburdened by what has been). 

 

 

And yet still no evidence of ‘Illegal Dem Voters’.

 

 

[JonnyF]

8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

And yet still no evidence of ‘Illegal Dem Voters’.

 

 

 

If you truly believed it wasn't happening, you would have no objection to Trump's order.

 

You will see the fruits of such an order at the next election when the GOP win by an even bigger landslide. 

[Chomper Higgot]

19 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

If you truly believed it wasn't happening, you would have no objection to Trump's order.

 

You will see the fruits of such an order at the next election when the GOP win by an even bigger landslide. 

Somebody else who missed the result from Pennsylvania.

[cjinchiangrai]

53 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

how on earth did you come up with that in reply to the previous comment??

That was a proper unhinged straw grasp

Says the strawman.

[HK MacPhooey]

6 hours ago, Tug said:

So now everyone has to present their birth certificate to vote?as usual it’s a ditcate not a law with little if any thought behind it.call it for what it is an attempt to disenfranchise the poor,just how many illegal voters did they find in 2020?

Why does having to prove US citizenship disenfranchise the poor? More like it will disenfranchise undocumented people ‘living under the radar’ who should have no right to vote. Even if they are US citizens they must have something to hide - maybe not paying tax or open arrest warrants etc

[RPCVguy]

6 hours ago, Skunkfarben said:

 

Not birth certificate. National I'd or passport can be ok. Why anybody confusing with this

I have no doubt that if he could, Trump would limit voting to only those he had vetted for loyalty to him. Some past RNC officials have stated such goals as they change voting laws. (They target the poor and students because their addresses are less stable, and hourly workers have financial disincentives to taking time to travel to register. Place those registration locations away from public transport and it is another barrier.) This latest Executive order is an affront to states rights over setting up elections, though at least if done by Congress (a voting rights act) it would have been negotiated in a more constitutional manner. This just seeks to authoritatively reduce eligible voters towards males with money - eliminating swaths of others.

This from the AP:
Millions of Americans don’t have appropriate documents readily available to prove their citizenship even though they are U.S. citizens. For example, in recent town elections in New Hampshire, which recently passed a proof of citizenship requirement, some women didn’t have proper documentation because they had changed their last name when they married. A current idea is to mandate that the name match, which indeed disenfranchises millions of women.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-executive-order-elections-voting-constitution-8908477167fd65dc9cd485e1fde5b804

Additionally, the EO require "all states to reject ballots not received by Election Day, directing the Justice Department to “take all necessary action to enforce” the requirement. The move seemed directly targeted at mail-in heavy states from California to Alaska."

 

In summary, these steps eliminate many women, and millions of other citizens lacking the current ID, and making mail in voting harder. BTW, it is already hard enough to receive my ballot as a US citizen residing in Thailand within the time frame allotted to mail it back.

[RPCVguy]

3 hours ago, CallumWK said:

 

Any ID obtained before married will be tied to birth certificate, otherwise how would they be able to obtain that ID?

You are making up things much

That is not the interpretation accepted in Texas, and it is meant to become a national concept.
It can be fixed by getting a passport, but that is a 10 year document hassle that most people don't have - because they don't travel. If only used so as to allow women to vote, it is essentially another form of poll tax. (A concept that is unconstitutional.)

 

[Paul Henry]

Does't matter how many hurdles Trump and the GOP put in the way of voters they will lose the midterms and the next Presidential election based soley on lack of performance,lies and all the countless stupid things he, Musk and his buddy buddy cabinet are doing and have done. Even MAGA are turning against him.

[Dan O]

8 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Sounds like a perfectly reasonable thing to require to vote. I don't get to vote in Thailand, so why should a Thai get to vote in the US?

 

As usual, the wokeistas are having a brain melt as it reduces their chances of winning a government of their want.

I don't think theres much chance of this standing as trump has no authority over mandating any changes to voter rights, registration requirements or responsibilities as it lies with the States and the Board of Elections.

 

He can write all the executive orders he wants but many are already being held up by the courts and overturned and he's losing appeals already. 

 

No one is melting down except you trumpettes trying to justify what the POS is doing and find some reason to support his delusional attack on everything and everyone he disagrees with. Sad and pathetic 

[Dan O]

3 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

If you truly believed it wasn't happening, you would have no objection to Trump's order.

 

You will see the fruits of such an order at the next election when the GOP win by an even bigger landslide. 

How many court cases did Trump lose with the claims of voter fraud when he lost last time. Hmmm let me think, ALL of them!

 

You trumpettes1 really need to let the pack of lies dies as you are getting now where and have no support or proof to stand on. 

[ignore it]

0MG

 

Thus could mean the death of an out of power political party.

[SLOWHAND225]

49 minutes ago, RPCVguy said:

I have no doubt that if he could, Trump would limit voting to only those he had vetted for loyalty to him. Some past RNC officials have stated such goals as they change voting laws. (They target the poor and students because their addresses are less stable, and hourly workers have financial disincentives to taking time to travel to register. Place those registration locations away from public transport and it is another barrier.) This latest Executive order is an affront to states rights over setting up elections, though at least if done by Congress (a voting rights act) it would have been negotiated in a more constitutional manner. This just seeks to authoritatively reduce eligible voters towards males with money - eliminating swaths of others.

This from the AP:
Millions of Americans don’t have appropriate documents readily available to prove their citizenship even though they are U.S. citizens. For example, in recent town elections in New Hampshire, which recently passed a proof of citizenship requirement, some women didn’t have proper documentation because they had changed their last name when they married. A current idea is to mandate that the name match, which indeed disenfranchises millions of women.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-executive-order-elections-voting-constitution-8908477167fd65dc9cd485e1fde5b804

Additionally, the EO require "all states to reject ballots not received by Election Day, directing the Justice Department to “take all necessary action to enforce” the requirement. The move seemed directly targeted at mail-in heavy states from California to Alaska."

 

In summary, these steps eliminate many women, and millions of other citizens lacking the current ID, and making mail in voting harder. BTW, it is already hard enough to receive my ballot as a US citizen residing in Thailand within the time frame allotted to mail it back.

No it doesn't.
What it does do is require you to be a responsible adult and get that taken care of if you want to vote.  Simple to do except for the lazy.

How in the world did that make mail in voting harder ? lol. They have to leave the house 5 days earlier to mail it ? wtf

[SunnyinBangrak]

How it started.

The left - ohh noooo, nobody is allowing illegals to vote its a conthpiratheeee theoreee, and no way did we throw open the border to welcome in more freeloaders to vote dem.

 

How its going - its illegal to stop the illegals we welcomed in to vote for dems from casting their illegal votes.

 

🤣so busted

[riclag]

7 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Good move by Trump.

 

Obviously the Dems want all the illegals they let in voting for them at the next election. Millions of votes appearing out of nowhere like in 2020. 

 

Not gonna happen. Those days are over. Much like The Dems in fact. 

Do you think the leftist activists pretending to be judges are gonna take aim at federal election voting?

 

 

[Srikcir]

So long as it doesn't violate state and US Constitutions, the states decide what is required for eligible voting. Not POTUS Trump.

[Photoguy21]

If you are not a citizen of the country why should you have a say in who is president or any body that rules?

[Hamus Yaigh]

9 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Sounds like a perfectly reasonable thing to require to vote. I don't get to vote in Thailand, so why should a Thai get to vote in the US?

 

As usual, the wokeistas are having a brain melt as it reduces their chances of winning a government of their want.

 

It's easy to deflect to a foreigner not being able to vote, but what about an American in America without ID, you want to take away the Americans voting rights, right?

[hotchilli]

10 hours ago, Social Media said:

President Donald Trump has signed an executive order that dramatically alters the U.S. election system by requiring individuals to provide proof of citizenship when registering to vote in federal elections. The order also includes broad changes to mail-in voting and election equipment, raising concerns about potential voter disenfranchisement and the legality of such sweeping reforms.

Sounds like common sense. If you're a citizen you have the right to vote, non-citizens don't

[Photoguy21]

4 minutes ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

 

It's easy to deflect to a foreigner not being able to vote, but what about an American in America without ID, you want to take away the Americans voting rights, right?

US citizens can get an ID card easily so what is the problem?

[jvs]

7 hours ago, proton said:

You have to have a passport to travel, a driving licence to drive, why not ID to vote? Even in Thailand you need to prove you are entitled to vote in elections. We all know it's the Democrats who have been cheating the system for years.

So how come donald won then?

Is he a better cheater?

[riclag]

10 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

US citizens can get an ID card easily so what is the problem?

The problem, rather than focusing  on rules & consequences , the left has made it a virtue signaling  narrative!

Listen to the victims ,time stamp 1:32

 

 

[Photoguy21]

2 minutes ago, riclag said:

The problem, rather than focusing  on rules & consequences , the left has made it a virtue signaling  narrative!

Listen to the victims ,time stamp 1:32

 

 

The victims, if that is the correct phrase will always complain. Could it be the "victims" are illegals?

[jvs]

8 hours ago, hotsun said:

anyone with a drivers license can vote. Why did it take so long for this to become a law

Really?,that is not true at all.

 

[riclag]

1 minute ago, Photoguy21 said:

The victims, if that is the correct phrase will always complain. Could it be the "victims" are illegals?

One could say that! That video was 6 years old!

The  left have been busy coddling the narrative for many years in anticipation of someone opening the floodgates for a mass migration of newcomers!

 

In the lefts hearts & minds they / them

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