8 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Please show us what's difficult to verify. What you have looked at yourself, not relying on some press agenda

Another ridiculous comment. How do you get your news? Via telepathy? Or are you tapping into the US government's phone lines?

7 hours ago, Yagoda said:

As I'm sure do many others here. I don't know why I even respond to the dude, he never answers a question. 

 

The Democrats, socialist, and America haters are becoming more and more frothingly irrational

 

 

Funny. Usually I get criticized by Trumpists for linking to information in reply to their assertions instead of composing a reply myself. Apparently, they need the texts dumbed down.

5 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Really? That's quite a bubble you live in:

 

Here Are The Biggest DOGE Hoaxes And Inaccuracies—As $8 Million Canceled ICE Contract Listed At $8 Billion

 As billionaire Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency scours federal agencies for cost savings, Musk and his team have repeatedly made baseless or false claims about government spending—or exaggerated the level of fraud and waste uncovered at some agencies.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/conormurray/2025/02/19/here-are-the-biggest-doge-hoaxes-and-inaccuracies-as-8-million-canceled-ice-contract-listed-at-8-billion/

 

DOGE shared its receipts — and some of them don’t match
“Everyone is very well-aware they’re repeating the wrong numbers,” said one manager at a company on DOGE’s list of cuts.

But among the 1,100-plus contracts purportedly canceled, POLITICO found:

• Contracts that had not yet been awarded
• Instances where a single pot of money is listed multiple times — tripling or quadrupling the amount of savings claimed
• Purchase agreements that have no record of being canceled, but were instead stripped of language related to diversity, equity and inclusion
• Contract savings identified by DOGE that do not match with records they refer to in the Federal Procurement Data System
• Contracts where the underlying document is for an entirely different contract

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/22/doge-data-errors-inconsistencies-00002576

 

Elon Musk makes false claim about billion-dollar National Park survey

Elon Musk claimed in a Fox News interview Thursday night that the Department of Government Efficiency, known as DOGE, frequently uncovers "billions" in government waste, citing a supposed $1 billion survey about National Parks as an example. 

CBS News found no evidence that the Department of the Interior spent or planned to spend that much on a survey or on any single contract. ..

 "For example, [a] simple survey that was literally a 10-question survey [that] you could do with SurveyMonkey, costs about $10,000, the government was being charged almost a billion dollars for that." 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elon-musk-doge-false-claim-billion-dollar-national-park-survey/

So all you have is "news reports". Tell us where the errors are on the DOGE website.

 

Its all hoaxes, right? No waste in TRILLIONS of dollars? No FRAUD? Is that what you are saying?

9 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Another ridiculous comment. How do you get your news? Via telepathy? Or are you tapping into the US government's phone lines?

DOGE has a website. Ever looked at it?

 

Why do you support government waste and FRAUD?

7 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Funny. Usually I get criticized by Trumpists for linking to information in reply to their assertions instead of composing a reply myself. Apparently, they need the texts dumbed down.

There you go ladies and gentlemen. No specifics, news reports from questionable sources, and support for theft and fraud. 

 

Topped off with a flame. Dude follows me around to spew antiAmerican hate. Y'all be the judge.

 

 

9 hours ago, placeholder said:

You seem awfully credulous of Musk's claims. Where's the actual evidence? He does have a history in regard to his claims.

 

What we know about claims DOGE found $312M in business loans to children

https://www.yahoo.com/news/know-claims-doge-found-312m-232300567.html

Yahoo news and snopes ? The 90's called and they want you to know they're catching up. lol

18 minutes ago, SLOWHAND225 said:

Yahoo news and snopes ? The 90's called and they want you to know they're catching up. lol

Denying facts doesn't make them go away.

19 minutes ago, SLOWHAND225 said:

Yahoo news and snopes ? The 90's called and they want you to know they're catching up. lol

 

They simply pointed out that Musk hasn't offered any evidence to back up his claim. Or maybe yYou got some links to actual facts that back up what Musk claims? We know he's been promoting falsehoods. Why would anyone believe these claims without genuine evidence.

3 minutes ago, placeholder said:

 

They simply pointed out that Musk hasn't offered any evidence to back up his claim. Or maybe yYou got some links to actual facts that back up what Musk claims? We know he's been promoting falsehoods. Why would anyone believe these claims without genuine evidence.

I didn't make the accusation, you did and your proof is yahoo news and snope. 
There are no facts in that article just opinions.

When you hire the guy to do the brakes on your car (its ok, we know you do) I bet you start complaining about how dirty it is as soon as he gets the tire off. 
Yes, thats a ridiculous  analogy but thats the point. 

 

1 minute ago, SLOWHAND225 said:

I didn't make the accusation, you did and your proof is yahoo news and snope. 
There are no facts in that article just opinions.

When you hire the guy to do the brakes on your car (its ok, we know you do) I bet you start complaining about how dirty it is as soon as he gets the tire off. 
Yes, thats a ridiculous  analogy but thats the point. 

 

I offer a source. You offer nothing. Come up with a source that has verified Musk's claims. Good luck with that.

 

 

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I offer a source. You offer nothing. Come up with a source that has verified Musk's claims. Good luck with that.

 

 

Again, I didn't make the accusation, you did, with zero facts.
 

I offer nothing because theres nothing to do. Let them do their work and when its all done, everyone will see. 
All this hand wringing by non Americans has great entertainment value. Keep at it, its going to be a long 12 yrs for you. lol

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

DOGE has a website. Ever looked at it?

 

Why do you support government waste and FRAUD?

There you go ladies and gentlemen. No specifics, news reports from questionable sources, and support for theft and fraud. 

 

Topped off with a flame. Dude follows me around to spew antiAmerican hate. Y'all be the judge.

 

 

Do you suffer from index finger paralysis? There were plenty of specifics in the articles I cited. Do you need me to spoon feed them to you?

And your resort to the usual trumpist dodge of claiming that the sources are questionable. But you don't offer any evidence of your own to counteract the information contained in those sources.

 

As for "Dude followis me around', this is a forum open two members of aseanow.com. It is not a gated community. You think your comments are entitled to immunity from criticism?

 

 

10 hours ago, worgeordie said:

How many have been arrested for fraud ? , 

 

regards Worgeordie

 

They first have to find it then they need to figure out who they are and make the case.  

 

10 hours ago, placeholder said:

You seem awfully credulous of Musk's claims. Where's the actual evidence? He does have a history in regard to his claims.

 

What we know about claims DOGE found $312M in business loans to children

https://www.yahoo.com/news/know-claims-doge-found-312m-232300567.html

 

 

My question still stand.  No matter whether you agree or disagree with Musk and TRUMP, the U.S. is spending like a drunk sailor on a walking street.

 

There needs to be a reqork of the systems.  Consier that the U.S. is suposed to be the texhleader int ehcountry but stilluses a paper system in a mine shaft to handle retirment claims.

 

Fine you disagree BUT where is the plan to defeat this issue.  hell, even Obama and his people said there was a problem.  Slickwilly cut down the government.

 

Where is the DNC plan to cut down on government spending?

 

At least TRUMP is doing something.

 

 

 

 

13 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

 

They first have to find it then they need to figure out who they are and make the case.  

 

 

 

My question still stand.  No matter whether you agree or disagree with Musk and TRUMP, the U.S. is spending like a drunk sailor on a walking street.

 

There needs to be a reqork of the systems.  Consier that the U.S. is suposed to be the texhleader int ehcountry but stilluses a paper system in a mine shaft to handle retirment claims.

 

Fine you disagree BUT where is the plan to defeat this issue.  hell, even Obama and his people said there was a problem.  Slickwilly cut down the government.

 

Where is the DNC plan to cut down on government spending?

 

At least TRUMP is doing something.

 

 

 

 

One of the things Trump is doing is pushing for a big tax cut. Why don't you have a problem with that?

14 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

 

They first have to find it then they need to figure out who they are and make the case.  

 

 

 

My question still stand.  No matter whether you agree or disagree with Musk and TRUMP, the U.S. is spending like a drunk sailor on a walking street.

 

There needs to be a reqork of the systems.  Consier that the U.S. is suposed to be the texhleader int ehcountry but stilluses a paper system in a mine shaft to handle retirment claims.

 

Fine you disagree BUT where is the plan to defeat this issue.  hell, even Obama and his people said there was a problem.  Slickwilly cut down the government.

 

Where is the DNC plan to cut down on government spending?

 

At least TRUMP is doing something.

 

 

 

 

And what if what he's doing, apart from the tax cuts, are actually going to make things worse?

11 hours ago, riclag said:

OP apologies ,I had a similar post and didn’t see yours! If I had noticed I wouldn’t of posted it.

Please forgive my intrusion!

 

More than 40% of fraudsters use stolen Social Security numbers , call the SSA try to  convince a agent to change Banking Information , these days are over!

 

Roll on time stamp 10:39

 

 

Exposing fraud and eliminating it. Streamlining and injecting integrity into the process. Only the fraudsters and woke morons on the left fail to see the immense net benefit being delivered by Trump and his D.O.G.E. team and would rather resort to domestic terrorism firebombing, torching tesla vehicles and dealerships. When the losers on the left got nothing, they GOT NOTHING and use violence. The dems are imploding as we speak, leaderless, (but they got Jasmine Crocket) rudderless, lost in space, without a plan or direction. Trump HAS DESTROYED them....lol....wasn't Trump supposed to be in prison??

 

ha ha ha.

 

 

 

Trump and Musk have knocked it outta the park with their crack team of genius level engineers and ultra adept business experts, exactly what America needs to reduce the debt. You couldn't ask for more. What a huge WIN for Trump AND America.

 

Now do Biden ....LOL.

 

 

1 hour ago, kingstonkid said:

At least TRUMP is doing something.

Did an outstanding job securing the southern border in record time. Compare this to Biden and Harris and the 4 years of 24/7 outright failure and destruction of America.

 

 

9 minutes ago, illisdean said:

Trump and Musk have knocked it outta the park with their crack team of genius level engineers and ultra adept business experts, exactly what America needs to reduce the debt. You couldn't ask for more. What a huge WIN for Trump AND America.

 

Now do Biden ....LOL.

 

 

Apparently, you believe that a big tax cut is what is needed to reduce the debt.

18 minutes ago, illisdean said:

Trump HAS DESTROYED them....lol....wasn't Trump supposed to be in prison??

 

 

8 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Apparently, you believe that a big tax cut is what is needed to reduce the debt.

Apparently you feel the need to obfuscate and detract and deflect cuz as usual YOU GOT NOTHING and thrive on embarrassing yourself. LOL...ha ha ha. You're always good for a laugh.

 

See DOGE website for an up to date list of debt reduction measures. And do try to keep up and tone down your obfuscation and deflection. 

 

 

 

 

 

11 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Apparently, you believe that a big tax cut is what is needed to reduce the debt.

"Apparently" you can't read, and comprehend.....lol

29 minutes ago, illisdean said:

Apparently you feel the need to obfuscate and detract and deflect cuz as usual YOU GOT NOTHING and thrive on embarrassing yourself. LOL...ha ha ha. You're always good for a laugh.

 

See DOGE website for an up to date list of debt reduction measures. And do try to keep up and tone down your obfuscation and deflection. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

27 minutes ago, illisdean said:

"Apparently" you can't read, and comprehend.....lol

Actually it's you who is obfuscating.  Like virtually all the Trumpists here who make a lot of noise about cutting debt, you simply don't engage when it comes to tax cuts.

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

 

 

Actually it's you who is obfuscating.  Like virtually all the Trumpists here who make a lot of noise about cutting debt, you simply don't engage when it comes to tax cuts.

LOl...maybe you are really confused, which is not surprising. DOGE itself does not appear to have a primary focus on enacting tax cuts...did you know this....LOL....NOPE... you don't know much! Most would know this thread is about Elon Musk interview and NOT tax cuts except you. Go back to your thumb sucking fetal position.

3 minutes ago, illisdean said:

LOl...maybe you are really confused, which is not surprising. DOGE itself does not appear to have a primary focus on enacting tax cuts...did you know this....LOL....NOPE... you don't know much! Most would know this thread is about Elon Musk interview and NOT tax cuts except you. Go back to your thumb sucking fetal position.

No. I don't know whether you are confused or just plain ignorant about this issue. What's below comes from the Marxist-Leninists at Fox News

 

Trump budget bill extending first-term tax cuts survives House vote

"An amendment negotiated by House Budget Committee Chairman Jodey Arrington, R-Texas, and conservatives on his panel would also force lawmakers to make $2 trillion in cuts, or else risk the $4.5 trillion for Trump's tax cuts getting reduced by the difference. "

"Several fiscal conservatives had demanded more assurances from House GOP leadership that Republicans would seek deep spending cuts to offset the cost of Trump's priorities."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-budget-bill-extending-first-term-tax-cuts-survives-house-vote

59 minutes ago, placeholder said:

No. I don't know

LOl...you DON"T know, and have lost your way just like your beloved albeit mentally deficient loser, boy biden. LOL.

 

Don't see no mention of "tax cuts" here....but your obviously impaired reading and comprehension and your delusions lead you to some other arcane, abstract conclusion....ha ha ha. Yes?

On 3/28/2025 at 10:48 AM, Yagoda said:

Here is the Posts article on it. Ill watch the interview later. 

 

https://nypost.com/2025/03/27/us-news/elon-musk-says-doges-trillion-dollar-target-quite-achievable-without-services-cut/

 

Isnt transparency wonderful? Winning! The People are regaining control

talking about idiots believing something so false!

34 minutes ago, Presnock said:

talking about idiots believing something so false!

What is false?

47 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

What is false?

That he will achieve a savings of a trillion USD or if he can, then the goverment will not be able to provide any support to the people at all IMHO  To announce that is just like going into the ss office and now they can't provide the same services to the older people.  A shame that people allow idiots that have not idea of what the departments to run them is crazy!

13 minutes ago, Presnock said:

That he will achieve a savings of a trillion USD or if he can, then the goverment will not be able to provide any support to the people at all IMHO  To announce that is just like going into the ss office and now they can't provide the same services to the older people.  A shame that people allow idiots that have not idea of what the departments to run them is crazy!

Thats quite incoherent. How do you know he wont achieve those savings?

 

What services are going to be cut? Stacy Abrams Foundation? Transgender mice?

2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Thats quite incoherent. How do you know he wont achieve those savings?

 

What services are going to be cut? Stacy Abrams Foundation? Transgender mice?

The Stacy Abrams foundation? Making things up much?