Why are Trump supporters so unwilling to criticize even some of his policies?

[JensenZ]

On 3/29/2025 at 7:08 PM, MalcolmB said:

Trump won because he appeals to the uneducated masses, the American Idiot.
The numpties. The simpletons. The inbreds. The deplorables.

They don’t really understand policy, just short slogans. 

Trump won because the Democrats were all of the above. They lost the unlosable election twice, if not three times. That's the height of stupidity. You couldn't be much dumber than that...

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1 hour ago, Mike_Hunt said:

 

There is zero data to back up this statement. 

Fox News disagrees with you.

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1 hour ago, Mike_Hunt said:

 

 

https://www.economist.com/leaders/2023/05/11/joe-biden-is-more-responsible-for-high-inflation-than-for-abundant-jobs

 

 

Joe Biden is more responsible for high inflation than for abundant jobs

The main effect of the president’s economic policies has been to boost prices

I wonder what the opinion of the Economist was  11/2 years later...

America’s economy is bigger and better than ever

America has long married light-touch regulation with speedy and generous spending when a crisis hits. Although supersized stimulus during the pandemic fuelled inflation, it has also ensured that America has grown by 10% since 2020, three times the pace of the rest of the g7. By contrast, stingier Germany is mired in recession for a second consecutive year.

https://archive.ph/UKQ9s#selection-973.41-977.85

 

 

[bendejo]

On 4/1/2025 at 3:07 AM, vinny41 said:

I have yet to see a single post which supports that  Trump is wrong on tariffs

 

This is what I'm curious about: the debate is the definition of tariff, which should be settled by a dictionary. 

He claims he's collecting $$ from the countries of origin, but the US consumer will be paying.  So, his fans are going to pay the new tax and not look in the mirror?

 

 

[jimmybcool]

On 4/1/2025 at 3:07 AM, vinny41 said:

i have yet to see a single post which supports that  Trump is wrong on tariffs

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Maybe because some people are in a wait and see mode.  I look out further than a one day event or "perhaps everything gets more expensive".   The markets have a tendency to react wildly at uncertainty. 

 

If the market continues to sink and prices rise and it appears the world won't come to a reasonable agreement about tariffs in a few months THEN I will criticize Trump.  The problem with the left is it wants to critique before knowing the outcome. 

[Yagoda]

I think Trump should take off tariffs on Israel, because they are taking off tariffs on us, although hes probably trying to score a deal on the Dome.

[jerrymahoney]

On 4/1/2025 at 5:07 PM, vinny41 said:

i have yet to see a single post which supports that  Trump is wrong on tariffs

Letter from 23 Nobel Prize winning economists -- 23 OCT 2024

 

(Trump's) policies, including high tariffs even on goods from our friends and allies and regressive tax cuts for corporations and individuals, will lead to higher prices, larger deficits, and greater inequality. Among the most important determinants of economic success are the rule of law and economic and political certainty, and Trump threatens all of these.

[nauseus]

On 3/29/2025 at 9:34 PM, placeholder said:

Typical right wing pavlovian response. I'm referring to hard science. Ya know, physics, chemistry, biology, climatology. geology, hydrology and so on and so forth. For example, Johns Hopkins had to let thousands of people go thanks to the cuts.

 

Mainly USAID cuts for foreign projects. AIDS has been around for more than 40 years. Foreign aid and relief has been sent continuously for at least that period to poor countries, from the USA and Europe. Should a country like India not be able to handle their own problems by now? 

[stevenl]

10 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

Mainly USAID cuts for foreign projects. AIDS has been around for more than 40 years. Foreign aid and relief has been sent continuously for at least that period to poor countries, from the USA and Europe. Should a country like India not be able to handle their own problems by now? 

Funding for all kind of US research projects has been cut. 

[nauseus]

On 3/30/2025 at 4:55 AM, placeholder said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_stock_market_decline

 

Bigger market dip in Covid 2020. Interest rates were kept too low, too long then markets rose but inflation higher by 2022.

Of course, Biden just kept spending on Build Back Butter, or some such dairy initiative.

[nauseus]

On 3/30/2025 at 7:18 PM, placeholder said:

I'm becoming aware that you live in an alternative universe. Yes there was a big corruption problem. But hopeless. No. As for denizification. That was about the Azov brigade. And they were pretty much Nazis. But they were also fighting the russians and the separatists. During WW2, Russia was the USA's ally. Did that mean that the USA was communist. What's more, the Azov brigade or what's left of it is no longer a neo-nazi fighting force. But if it's neo-nazi fighting forces you want to look for, try the Russian army.

What makes thise charges particularly ridiculous is the the current President of Ukraine is Jewish. Not only that.

"Only 5% of Ukrainians would not like to have Jews as their fellow citizens. This is the lowest level observed in all the countries of Eastern and Central Europe, as revealed in a report released on 28 March 2018 on the results of a survey conducted by the Pew Research Center (US).

Antisemitism in Europe: Ukraine turns out to be the most friendly to Jews

 

 

https://ukrainianjewishencounter.org/en/news/antisemitism-in-europe-ukraine-turns-out-to-be-the-most-friendly-to-jews/

 

 

"Russian neo-Nazi paramilitary group says it has defied President Vladimir Putin's order to delete a social media post that called for the execution of Ukrainian prisoners of war.

Task Force Rusich, which has reportedly been actively involved in fighting in Ukraine on behalf of the Kremlin, said on its Telegram channel it was pressured by Russian officials to delete a post "about the [encouragement] of execution of prisoners."

The group is believed to have had links to the now-dissolved paramilitary outfit the Wagner Group, whose late chief, Yevgeny Prigozhin, was killed after his private jet crashed in Russia's Tver region in August 2023."

https://www.newsweek.com/russian-neo-nazi-rusich-telegram-putin-war-crimes-1873703

 

Russian Neo-Nazis Participate in ‘Denazifying’ Ukraine – Der Spiegel

At least two neo-Nazi groups are fighting for Russian forces in Ukraine, throwing into question Moscow’s claims of “denazifying” its neighbor, German weekly Der Spiegel reported Sunday, citing a confidential intelligence report.

The document shared with German ministries by the BND intelligence service does not provide the exact number of far-right fighters, but identifies them as the Russian Imperial Legion and Rusich groups. 

Their involvement “makes the ostensible reason for war, the so-called ‘denazification’ of Ukraine, absurd,” BND is quoted as saying.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/05/23/russian-neo-nazis-participate-in-denazifying-ukraine-der-spiegel-a77762

 

 

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1 hour ago, nauseus said:

 

Bigger market dip in Covid 2020. Interest rates were kept too low, too long then markets rose but inflation higher by 2022.

Of course, Biden just kept spending on Build Back Butter, or some such dairy initiative.

And that's why inflation spiked in all the economically developed nations? Because of Joe Biden? Nothing to do with the supply chain obstructions and the imbalance between supply and demand?

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On 4/4/2025 at 8:24 AM, Yagoda said:

I think Trump should take off tariffs on Israel, because they are taking off tariffs on us, although hes probably trying to score a deal on the Dome.

Yes. This was definitely a huge move on the part of Israel...not.

"Israel and the U.S. signed a free trade agreement 40 years ago and around 98% of goods from the United States are now tax-free. The finance ministry noted that tariff collection from U.S. imports - mainly in the agricultural sector - stands at about 42 million shekels ($11.3 million) a year."

https://archive.ph/tE4fh

[Yagoda]

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

Yes. This was definitely a huge move on the part of Israel...not.

"Israel and the U.S. signed a free trade agreement 40 years ago and around 98% of goods from the United States are now tax-free. The finance ministry noted that tariff collection from U.S. imports - mainly in the agricultural sector - stands at about 42 million shekels ($11.3 million) a year."

https://archive.ph/tE4fh

a win is a win

[nauseus]

3 hours ago, placeholder said:

And that's why inflation spiked in all the economically developed nations? Because of Joe Biden? Nothing to do with the supply chain obstructions and the imbalance between supply and demand?

 

My comment was about the USA.

[kwonitoy]

@spidermike007

 

This lady has a very good take on your OP question

 

 

[Tug]

Perhaps they flunked civics?here’s a really simple one just how much has trump accomplished with legislation within our system of government?very little he’s done a lot of ditcate via executive orders that are challenged for obvious reasons then he makes a mess in court to delay.thats not governance thats dictator stuff.

[jimmybcool]

6 hours ago, Tug said:

Perhaps they flunked civics?here’s a really simple one just how much has trump accomplished with legislation within our system of government?very little he’s done a lot of ditcate via executive orders that are challenged for obvious reasons then he makes a mess in court to delay.thats not governance thats dictator stuff.

 

Note this is the same method employed by Biden.  The problem is congress has abdicated some of it's constitutional role to presidents going back to Reagan and Clinton.  Heck I don't think the senate very presented Biden with a budget which I believe is a role they are mandated to fulfill.

 

So Trump is hardly doing this in a vacuum. 

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19 hours ago, Yagoda said:

a win is a win

Even an insignificant one.

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18 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

My comment was about the USA.

Yes. Do you think it was just an extraordinary coincidence that inflation afflicted virtually all the developed economies. Or did you even think about it at all?

[Yagoda]

4 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Even an insignificant one.

Yep. But losses are always significant

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1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Yep. But losses are always significant

Actually, it's the opposite with you. When one inflation measure showed a one point drip, you assigned it great significance. as a win for Trump. When, a short time later, another measure showed it rising by one point, you dismissed its significance.

[Yagoda]

33 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Actually, it's the opposite with you. When one inflation measure showed a one point drip, you assigned it great significance. as a win for Trump. When, a short time later, another measure showed it rising by one point, you dismissed its significance.

Your posts are alwys about me. How flattering? You think about me a lot huh? What I do in this situation, what I say in that.

 

Seems like you are consumed by me, you follow me around like a teenage boy follows the girl he has the hots for.

 

Dont forget to respond with an insult now, and your silly emoji campaign LOL. Someone dropped a dime on you about that one LOL

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6 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Your posts are alwys about me. How flattering? You think about me a lot huh? What I do in this situation, what I say in that.

 

Seems like you are consumed by me, you follow me around like a teenage boy follows the girl he has the hots for.

 

Dont forget to respond with an insult now, and your silly emoji campaign LOL. Someone dropped a dime on you about that one LOL

I address what you say in this forum. I don't speculate about your personal life or make personal comments about you. This is an open forum. Anyone's comments are fair game. If I do respond with what you call an insult, it would be about the substance, or lack thereof, of your comments, not about you. As for emojis, I very, very rarely bother with them. I'm not even sure how someone could "drop the dime" on me since they don't come with an information about who posted them. Stop making things up. You've got nothing.