17 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

If you want to compare power stations to missiles, then go ahead and be silly.

 

I gave you an example of what happens when a Cruise Missile is detonated. The radiation modeling is for a common NUCLEAR PAYLOAD.

17 hours ago, safarimike11 said:

Donny doesn't need to do anything except to give Bibi the go-ahead.

 

They will need some anti aircraft and radar blocking assistance similar to what the French previously provided when the Israelis sent 100 aircraft to visit Iran.

11 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

I gave you an example of what happens when a Cruise Missile is detonated. The radiation modeling is for a common NUCLEAR PAYLOAD.

 

Just one missile type, just one warhead type and just one detonation.

 

But what if there were more and of different types? From different sides even?

Like I've posted before, they often have their 'ego' rallies where they all gather to spread fear to the Iranian people and a public threat to the world. Drop 1/2 a dozen bunker busters in front, on and behind them (the leaders on the viewing stage).

Most Iranians hate their leaders so this would give them back their country.

On 4/1/2025 at 3:01 AM, mogandave said:

Iranians are not stupid people. Anyone that thinks they will stop is fooling themselves. 

 

They are down for destroying the world if it means killing all the Jews. 

 

Need to differentiate between the people of Iran and the psychotic regime controlling them in Iran.  I think most of the people of Iran would choose a return of the Shah if it meant getting rid of the nutty suicidal mullahs. 

2 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

Just one missile type, just one warhead type and just one detonation.

 

But what if there were more and of different types? From different sides even?

 

Why? There is no need for  that. Multiple warheads at a site are not going to  significantly increase the zone of destruction. If you want overkill, Russia can use its largest nuclear warhead, the tsar bomb

Effect distances for a 50 megaton airburst*:  

 

Radiation radius (500 rem😞 3.14 km (30.9 km²)

500 rem ionizing radiation dose; likely fatal, in about 1 month; 15% of survivors will eventually die of cancer as a result of exposure.

 

Fireball radius: 5.16 km (83.6 km²)

Maximum size of the nuclear fireball; relevance to damage on the ground depends on the height of detonation. If it touches the ground, the amount of radioactive fallout is significantly increased. Anything inside the fireball is effectively vaporized. Minimum burst height for negligible fallout: 4.16 km.

 

Heavy blast damage radius (20 psi😞 8.91 km (249 km²)

At 20 psi overpressure, heavily built concrete buildings are severely damaged or demolished; fatalities approach 100%. Often used as a benchmark for heavy damage in cities. Optimal height of burst to maximize this effect is 6,700 m.

 

Moderate blast damage radius (5 psi😞 20.7 km (1,350 km²)

At 5 psi overpressure, most residential buildings collapse, injuries are universal, fatalities are widespread. The chances of a fire starting in commercial and residential damage are high, and buildings so damaged are at high risk of spreading fire. Often used as a benchmark for moderate damage in cities. Optimal height of burst to maximize this effect is 11,500 m.

 

Light blast damage radius (1 psi😞 54.3 km (9,270 km²)

At around 1 psi overpressure, glass windows can be expected to break. This can cause many injuries in a surrounding population who comes to a window after seeing the flash of a nuclear explosion (which travels faster than the pressure wave). Often used as a benchmark for light damage in cities. Optimal height of burst to maximize this effect is 17,210 m.

 

Thermal radiation radius (3rd degree burns): 60 km (11,300 km²)

Third degree burns extend throughout the layers of skin, and are often painless because they destroy the pain nerves. They can cause severe scarring or disablement, and can require amputation. 100% probability for 3rd degree burns at this yield is 13.6 cal/cm².

 

 

 

 

7 hours ago, sungod said:

 

Putin has already played him, so why not Iran?

You forgot N Korea who could possibly forget the imbecile saluting the n korean general or his declared love for the (dear leader)…..we are still awaiting the trump beach resorts lmao!!trump’s administration is like a 70es farce comedy movie except it isn’t funny,there’s consequences.todays going to be interesting because today is the day the (trump tax) takes effect.

15 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

Why? There is no need for  that. Multiple warheads at a site are not going to  significantly increase the zone of destruction. If you want overkill, Russia can use its largest nuclear warhead, the tsar bomb

Effect distances for a 50 megaton airburst*:  

 

Radiation radius (500 rem😞 3.14 km (30.9 km²)

500 rem ionizing radiation dose; likely fatal, in about 1 month; 15% of survivors will eventually die of cancer as a result of exposure.

 

Fireball radius: 5.16 km (83.6 km²)

Maximum size of the nuclear fireball; relevance to damage on the ground depends on the height of detonation. If it touches the ground, the amount of radioactive fallout is significantly increased. Anything inside the fireball is effectively vaporized. Minimum burst height for negligible fallout: 4.16 km.

 

Heavy blast damage radius (20 psi😞 8.91 km (249 km²)

At 20 psi overpressure, heavily built concrete buildings are severely damaged or demolished; fatalities approach 100%. Often used as a benchmark for heavy damage in cities. Optimal height of burst to maximize this effect is 6,700 m.

 

Moderate blast damage radius (5 psi😞 20.7 km (1,350 km²)

At 5 psi overpressure, most residential buildings collapse, injuries are universal, fatalities are widespread. The chances of a fire starting in commercial and residential damage are high, and buildings so damaged are at high risk of spreading fire. Often used as a benchmark for moderate damage in cities. Optimal height of burst to maximize this effect is 11,500 m.

 

Light blast damage radius (1 psi😞 54.3 km (9,270 km²)

At around 1 psi overpressure, glass windows can be expected to break. This can cause many injuries in a surrounding population who comes to a window after seeing the flash of a nuclear explosion (which travels faster than the pressure wave). Often used as a benchmark for light damage in cities. Optimal height of burst to maximize this effect is 17,210 m.

 

Thermal radiation radius (3rd degree burns): 60 km (11,300 km²)

Third degree burns extend throughout the layers of skin, and are often painless because they destroy the pain nerves. They can cause severe scarring or disablement, and can require amputation. 100% probability for 3rd degree burns at this yield is 13.6 cal/cm².

 

 

 

 

 

Why? Who can say? But many will say that there was no need for Russia to invade in the first place.

 

I don't want any (over)kill but think what might happen once the first weapon in used? If that happens who can say more than one warhead would not be used after that and be limited to a single site? Too many chances of this getting out of control, therefore all too dangerous.

 

 

On 4/1/2025 at 8:23 PM, jas007 said:

There's no need for nukes in Ukraine.  Russia already won.  It's now just a matter of ending it.  Trump and Putin will make a deal.  Zelenskyy is merely an inconvenience. Why he's still there, I'm not sure. 

 

It was a foregone conclusion.

On 4/2/2025 at 11:29 AM, spidermike007 said:

I have known him since the last 1970's in NYC, when I was in commercial real estate, and know too much about him to have any affection, nor any respect for the man.

Well at least we know why you are so deranged by your hatred of him. He won, I reckon, and you..?

 

Everybody hates a competitor, especially ones who are more successful.

On 4/6/2025 at 9:12 PM, Yagoda said:

Well at least we know why you are so deranged by your hatred of him. He won, I reckon, and you..?

 

Everybody hates a competitor, especially ones who are more successful.

Mike’s story keeps changing. Before, he did not actually know Trump, but knew of Trump through his associates. No he’s known him for forty years. 

 

Poor lefties.