April 3, 2025Apr 3 Author 1 hour ago, BritManToo said: Someone who left school age 12 is not my equal ......... but they may be your equal! That point is valid, however, we need to be extra-vigilant against the uneducated, for their lack of refined education may hide a cunning, street smart mind, always out for its own advantage, adept at lying and practised in betrayal. Our education is no shield in the arena where these girls have experience far beyond most men.
April 3, 2025Apr 3 4 hours ago, marin said: Why is anyone responding to this clueless poster? As I said before he has never met a "real" Thai woman from an educated family. The only women he knows are "players". The ones who are just like him, but often more on the ball than he is. Looking for love on Tinder and other platforms. He could not even get the time of day from a true university graduate working in a professional field. What the heck is this captain crap as well. You didn't get much positive comments 😂. Doesn't mean you're wrong. Just shows where some "men"😂 coming from (education) and going to (nowhere) Thank you for your comment 👍
April 3, 2025Apr 3 45 minutes ago, Cameroni said: That point is valid, however, we need to be extra-vigilant against the uneducated, for their lack of refined education may hide a cunning, street smart mind, always out for its own advantage, adept at lying and practised in betrayal. Our education is no shield in the arena where these girls have experience far beyond most men. Gibberish
April 3, 2025Apr 3 3 hours ago, Cameroni said: And of course their character, their behaviour is the key focus. What happened when the man has no character? No behaviour? No manners? No education? Tell us. You must have experience?!
April 3, 2025Apr 3 Author 1 hour ago, newbee2022 said: What happened when the man has no character? No behaviour? No manners? No education? Tell us. You must have experience?! You can't tell a snake from a rabbit. It's pointless talking to you.
April 3, 2025Apr 3 One things many guys do not admit. If you did not make it with a (decent) gal back in the west, you won't make it with a (decent) gal any place else. Thinking you found the right one here, could be only due to your money. In fact not even due to the money, but due to the exchange rate !!... Not always the case, but unfortunately quite often and it is sad to see those falangs getting ripped off.
April 3, 2025Apr 3 Author 1 minute ago, Middle Aged Grouch said: One things many guys do not admit. If you did not make it with a (decent) gal back in the west, you won't make it with a (decent) gal any place else. Thinking you found the right one here, could be only due to your money. In fact not even due to the money, but due to the exchange rate !!... Not always the case, but unfortunately quite often and it is sad to see those falangs getting ripped off. The question really is, IS SHE a decent gal?
April 3, 2025Apr 3 23 minutes ago, Cameroni said: You can't tell a snake from a rabbit. It's pointless talking to you. Cornered 😂😂😂
April 3, 2025Apr 3 Maybe here is something to stop all that immature elaborated nonsense: https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/the-health-advantages-of-marriage-2016113010667
April 3, 2025Apr 3 well everyone is different/ but this guy's marriage seems to be making him neurotic. he claims thai women are emotionally immature and you will never get 50/50 in the relationship and you always have to do things her way. so looks like this guy's wife is the "captain" and his ship might sink to me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AvXIOhYWUg&t=1s
April 3, 2025Apr 3 On 4/1/2025 at 5:53 PM, Cameroni said: Look, I was married for 22 years to a woman like this. She never cheated. I know these women exist. Yes, many women do cheat and do not have integrity. But not all. What happened after 22 years ? So, now you are 22 years older........ and you think you can find the same thing again . Well........ only problem is the dynamics are not the same . Main one being the age difference . Good looks are valued by women same as they are for men . Hansum man
April 4, 2025Apr 4 Author 13 hours ago, save the frogs said: well everyone is different/ but this guy's marriage seems to be making him neurotic. he claims thai women are emotionally immature and you will never get 50/50 in the relationship and you always have to do things her way. so looks like this guy's wife is the "captain" and his ship might sink to me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AvXIOhYWUg&t=1s Very interesting video, the guy has been married for 10 years and is finding out a few hard truths. But he made several mistakes: 1) "It should be 50/50" - This is the typical male fantasy, the male dream. I want a team mate, someone who does 50 percent of everything. Newsflash, that willl never happen, because women DONT WANT a partnership. What they want is a male who makes their life better, who is competent and takes care of the bulk of the problems for her. No girl, no woman, will ever give you a 50./50, and if she does she will resent you for making her work that hard. So this expectation was bound to be crushed. 2) "I have no interest to speak Thai" - After 10 years clearly the communication problems are grating and a real issue. This is a huge issue with Thai girls, you really need to learn Thai. He did so, and actually speaks a bit of Thai, but refuses to learn the language properly. This is a mistake. One should learn to speak Thai perfectly. Communication is one of the most difficult issues with a Thai woman. They have a habit of not specifying key details, simply because they lack the language skills to do so. If you speak perfect Thai you will be a lot happier. 3) "KFC sauce" incident - Quite funny, but it illustrates a typical female/ male dynamic, when the male makes a mistake, and here he did make a mistake as he should have asked you want pack or dip, the woman will see him as the incompetent buffalo. Never mind that he was doing her a favour, never mind that she did not ask correctly and specify what she wanted, she explodes at him for being incompetent. Now, clearly he vetted poorly, because he picked a 40 year old woman to start with, and then one who explodes over small things and gets nasty with him. This shows contempt. This relationship will end shortly, contempt is the first sign of this. 4) "Emotional immaturity" - The emotional immaturity here is his own, because he expected a 50/50 partnership and that is a juvenile expectation. It will never happen. And he is now finding that out and is clearly disappointed. Now, do Thais have a different emotional intelligence to ours, yes they do. He is right that our attitudes are culturally differently developed and Thais have no clues about our cultural norms. Thais have a much more harmony - oriented attitude, they abhorr arguments and are too lazy to thrash things out rationally. Sweetness and kindness are prized much more highly by many thai girls. Honesty and loyalty not so much. 5) Personally I think he did not vet properly before marriage. He also chose a 40 year old, who is now 50 years old after 10 years of marriage and women's disagreeable-capacity increases greatly with advancing years. As he found out when she exploded at him because he got the wrong type of sauce containeer.
April 4, 2025Apr 4 Author 5 hours ago, rumak said: What happened after 22 years ? So, now you are 22 years older........ and you think you can find the same thing again . Well........ only problem is the dynamics are not the same . Main one being the age difference . Good looks are valued by women same as they are for men . Hansum man It was a combination of things. She wanted to unilaterally re-negotiate the terms of the relationship by demanding that we have a child. All the fibres in my being were screaming "do not have a child", even though we were married, but I made the terrible mistake of conceding on this. I figured, I'll be married to this woman for the rest of my life, why not make her happy and give her a child. After we had the child, she wanted another child. This time I flatly refused. So she got me drunk, we had sex and she secretly did not take her birth control. So we conceived a second child. But it wasn't just that. I had a business and made the mistake of giving her an executive position. She proceeded to basically take over operations and it created a lot of friction. Plus I met a Filipina who was adept at lying about love and it seemed exciting. You are quite right, as always, rumak, that indeed the dynamics are very different now. It is very notable. When I was in my prime at 29, working in the world's oldest Wall Street law firm, physically considerably more attractive, I could demand anything. Impose anything. Mandate anything. My then 19 year old wife accepted it, because it was clear to her that finding a better option would be extremely difficult. Now, however, at age 53, even those girls who are in love with me and want to be with me, they would NEVER accept the dictatorial mandates I was able to issue previously. I can't demand as much. Of course the woke-feminist virus has contributed somewhat to this as well. It is remarkable that even a 24 year old Isaan girl will lecture you about how women should have an equal role. So yes, you are right, the dynamics have changed. Women do value good looks, of course, but not in the same way as men do. For us good looks are significantly more important. For women, economic status is significantly more imporant. However, even for men looks form a component of your sexual market value obviously. And social media has given this component more weight, due to the visual nature and global comparison factor. But that's fine, I am still fortunate that I am easy on the eye. My phonebook, whatsapp and Line are filled with beautiful 19 to 30 year old girls, and my dating profiles also have a lot of messages. Now, I have been made aware that kindness and easy going pleasantness is more important at this age, and you cannot get away with the dictator style captaincy anymore. I will probably never get a woman who is so hard working, so loyal and as good at communication as my ex wife was, but I will be with very attractive women.
April 4, 2025Apr 4 4 hours ago, Cameroni said: Line are filled with beautiful 19 to 30 year old girls, and my dating profiles also have a lot of messages. Now, I have been made aware that kindness and easy going pleasantness is more important at this age, and you cannot get away with the dictator style captaincy anymore. I will probably never get a woman who is so hard working, so loyal and as good at communication as my ex wife was, but I will be with very attractive women. Nice , informative reply . The amazing thing about lives and relationships (as per this subject .... and the Farang/ Thai in particular) is how many variables there are. Infinite ! Starting out here in my thirties , I think i can say that I have been through a helluva lot of the "thai experience" . Of course in 1984 I thought it was Paradise found . And so I went through the nightlife phase.... the beginning to learn Thai phase.... the motorcycle around the North adventure..... and actually it was only about a year before I was "married" to a great smile, nice CM girl, working in DK bookstore. The few longtime friends I have also tied the knot around the same time ( in our thirties) . Sixteen years later, and one great child, I walked out . Very tough to do as the wife did nothing "wrong" . I just was not happy and was not going to accept that I should stay out of duty, or whatever . My friends stuck it out ... and I do not envy them . I am sure they are jealous of my life. So..... then I was early fifties ( like you now ) . Still a hansum man , with language skills and the internet opening the world of online adventures . And yes, one or two twenty year olds that were crazy about me. I had a scratched car to prove it ! Plus a crying scene or two . So i enjoyed my midlife freedom. Maybe if i could stay 53 for the rest of time then I would still be doing that. Except... I have that gene in me that likes to live with a lady . And another gene that gets bored easily . As for vetting ..... the general "advice" to take it slow is one i agree with. I lived with a number of candidates 555. Always disappointed , as what starts out great gradually melts away . The great dream of having one mate that will grow better and better like a fine wine is a Hollywood fantasy. It can be true... if expectations and priorities of what is most important ( for me, for you, etc ) are also slowly adjusted to face the reality of getting older. I have a few very strict expectations for who I will be close to . I learnt the red flags regarding these lovely Thai princesses ........ and those here know that we learn the hard way . In closing i will say that i also learned to change ! You hit it right : kindness and easy going pleasantness works MUCH better . ( hint to posters on social media everywhere) ; cheers
April 4, 2025Apr 4 Author 7 minutes ago, rumak said: Nice , informative reply . The amazing thing about lives and relationships (as per this subject .... and the Farang/ Thai in particular) is how many variables there are. Infinite ! Starting out here in my thirties , I think i can say that I have been through a helluva lot of the "thai experience" . Of course in 1984 I thought it was Paradise found . And so I went through the nightlife phase.... the beginning to learn Thai phase.... the motorcycle around the North adventure..... and actually it was only about a year before I was "married" to a great smile, nice CM girl, working in DK bookstore. The few longtime friends I have also tied the knot around the same time ( in our thirties) . Sixteen years later, and one great child, I walked out . Very tough to do as the wife did nothing "wrong" . I just was not happy and was not going to accept that I should stay out of duty, or whatever . My friends stuck it out ... and I do not envy them . I am sure they are jealous of my life. So..... then I was early fifties ( like you now 55 ) . Still a hansum man , with language skills and the internet opening the world of online adventures . And yes, one or two twenty year olds that were crazy about me. I had a scratched car to prove it ! Plus a crying scene or two . So i enjoyed my midlife freedom. Maybe if i could stay 53 for the rest of time then I would still be doing that. Except... I have that gene in me that likes to live with a lady . And another gene that gets bored easily . As for vetting ..... the general "advice" to take it slow is one i agree with. I lived with a number of candidates 555. Always disappointed , as what starts out great gradually melts away . The great dream of having one mate that will grow better and better like a fine wine is a Hollywood fantasy. It can be true... if expectations and priorities of what is most important ( for me, for you, etc ) are also slowly adjusted to face the reality of getting older. I have a few very strict expectations for who I will be close to . I learnt the red flags regarding these lovely Thai princesses ........ and those here know that we learn the hard way . In closing i will say that i also learned to change ! You hit it right : kindness and easy going pleasantness works MUCH better . ( hint to posters on social media everywhere) ; cheers It's so nice to see that I'm not the only one who walked out on a good woman 😂. I feel a lot better. If truth be told, I also suffered with boredom. Part of the problem when you can demand so much at the beginning is that it can only get worse. Of course when the kids came, she recalibrated her life and was no longer open to do the fun things we were doing before. Life became boring, though she did nothing "wrong" either. I was pursued by beautiful 25 year old girls. Of course I paid a heavy price, but I do not regret it. Like you said, there are an infinite number of variables, and one is boredom, both for you and her. The other is that the woman changes, and often not for the better, by which I don't just mean physically. I know for sure if I am told to choose between a 25 year old and a 40 year old, it's the 25 year old every single time, unless there are particular factors. Then there is the alignment of your preferences, is her smile in the right angle, her eyes, her head the right shape, her hair the right length? Then the character, is she funny enough, kind enough, sexy enough, hard working enough. Ultimately, the person you could actually spend years in a real relationship with is rare, she will appear maybe 5 times or so in a lifetime. It is difficult. And of course women are even more demanding, lol. I was chasing perfection and in 2023 I thought I found it. A girl so unspeakably beautiful, just looking at her face without makeup I'd sometimes feel admiration for the beauty that is possible. She lived with me for a year. However, my new policy of not paying them big money anymore, coupled with business trip abroad and no doubt a real lack of attraction on her part, led to her betraying our relationship. Even after I gave her another chance, it happened again. It is so important to be ruthless with vetting. How about you, after 53, did you find a long term princess?
April 4, 2025Apr 4 2 hours ago, Cameroni said: I know for sure if I am told to choose between a 25 year old and a 40 year old, it's the 25 year old every single time, unless there are particular factors. The big "particular factor" is when you reach 60 or so ( even if still look ok for your age) . I have always preferred sleeping with a girl that I was pretty sure had an attraction for me . In my 50's I think that was often the case .... as well as the other obvious factors built into the female species . Heck, even going out for dinner or whatever is much more enjoyable when there seems to be a mutual interaction. ( another big reason why I laugh at the number of guys who can not communicate in Thai , and say they have no desire to ) . Guys with "educated" ladies who speak English are often very proud of that. I always enjoyed the Thai experience , which got better as my thai did . Mainly because I like simple, sweet , and dare i say somewhat innocent/ naive girls . ( maybe another reason we are attracted to girls in their twenties) . But.... back to being 60 and up ! Trying to believe that wearing hip clothes, an earring, or driving a sports car is gonna make a guy sexy is as silly as combing the hair above your ears across the bald spot on top . 😆 I had a fun time (and sometimes a bit crazy juggling the objects of my urges) when in my midlife (50's) adventures. Then I started to raise the age of who I felt more comfortable with and who might actually care about me. I try not to deceive myself too much. Anyway....YES . I found a fit for my age and lifestyle when I was 65 ( still 22 years my junior ). She has not let me down ............yet . And though I am not totally cured...... my little brain seems to be ok with it . Hint : I would leave if things changed, and she knows it .
April 4, 2025Apr 4 My wife gets angry so very quickly. And with that anger comes whacks; with whatever is on hand. sometimes a back-scratcher, sometimes a mop. Once a cat. But on the upside; she does make a lovely cup of tea. And it usually arrives a couple of minutes after my whistle. So, have to take the rough, with the smooth.
April 4, 2025Apr 4 Author 56 minutes ago, rumak said: The big "particular factor" is when you reach 60 or so ( even if still look ok for your age) . I have always preferred sleeping with a girl that I was pretty sure had an attraction for me . In my 50's I think that was often the case .... as well as the other obvious factors built into the female species . Heck, even going out for dinner or whatever is much more enjoyable when there seems to be a mutual interaction. ( another big reason why I laugh at the number of guys who can not communicate in Thai , and say they have no desire to ) . Guys with "educated" ladies who speak English are often very proud of that. I always enjoyed the Thai experience , which got better as my thai did . Mainly because I like simple, sweet , and dare i say somewhat innocent/ naive girls . ( maybe another reason we are attracted to girls in their twenties) . But.... back to being 60 and up ! Trying to believe that wearing hip clothes, an earring, or driving a sports car is gonna make a guy sexy is as silly as combing the hair above your ears across the bald spot on top . 😆 I had a fun time (and sometimes a bit crazy juggling the objects of my urges) when in my midlife (50's) adventures. Then I started to raise the age of who I felt more comfortable with and who might actually care about me. I try not to deceive myself too much. Anyway....YES . I found a fit for my age and lifestyle when I was 65 ( still 22 years my junior ). She has not let me down ............yet . And though I am not totally cured...... my little brain seems to be ok with it . Hint : I would leave if things changed, and she knows it . Thanks for the heads up. I think you're right, at 53 it is not impossible to meet girls who seem attracted to you, but it is harder than when you were 29, and to be honest I am dreading 60 to 63, not because I think I will look much worse, but simply because on paper it will just make it harder to meet a 25 year old. But let's see, there are still 65 and 75 year old guys with 30 year old girlfriends. You're absolutely right of course, if there is no attraction on her side, it is bound to fail, because she will not put in the effort to make the relationship work. She must be attracted to you. Perhaps I will also have to target 35 or 40 year old women at some point. Time waits for noone. Anyway, extremely pleased to see you're in good hands, that's what I was hoping for.
April 4, 2025Apr 4 1 hour ago, Cameroni said: Perhaps I will also have to target 35 or 40 year old women at some point. I think so ......... but wish you the best . 😎
April 4, 2025Apr 4 Author 9 minutes ago, rumak said: I think so ......... but wish you the best . 😎 Thank you.
April 5, 2025Apr 5 Popular Post Allow plenty of time together before commitment, in Thailand or in any other country.
April 5, 2025Apr 5 On 4/1/2025 at 11:09 AM, scubascuba3 said: The best way is getting a noob, noob sex worker or noob at dating farang Sure, get a virgin so that if you are the first, she won't know how incompetent you are...
April 5, 2025Apr 5 On 4/1/2025 at 10:45 AM, spidermike007 said: I have so many friends, who come here, and from the very start, make the same mistakes they made back in the West. Except here, they do not need to make those mistakes. The environment does not dictate that they behave like lambs. Many do not know, or realize that, or they succumb to "force of habit". Every ship needs a captain. If the man is not willing to be the captain of the ship, the woman will take over, here in Thailand. Most women here seem to want a strong man. But, if they end up with a wimp, they will take over. They have to. Someone needs to be the captain! Many Thai women are very clever at making it appear that they really care for "their guy". And on many occasions, that is true, especially in long term relationships. But, for short time gals, it is just a game, and they play it well. Many Western men who come here are emotionally vulnerable, or an emotional wreck, having endured years of near torture by uber-feminists. My advice would be to take your time, okay you've already invested an extraordinary amount of time into chatting with somebody online, which is something I would never do, but all that is said and done. So once you get here take your time. Don't move fast, don't move in with her, don't live with her, date her for 6 months to a year and see how you like her. When you meet a girl in person that you have met online, there is a possibility that you won't even like what you see, and that there will be zero chemistry. So, keep your expectations low, and come here and really really take your time getting to know her. What this means is consistent pushback from you, because she's going to want to step up the timetable, she's going to want it to move fast, she's going to want everything to happen right away, and you're going to have to be man enough to say sorry but I need a lot of time to determine whether or not you're the right woman for me, and I need a lot of time to get to know you. Always remember if it's good it's only going to get better, and if there are problems they're going to manifest themselves over time. So the worst thing you can do is rush headlong into this thing. Man up and do your gender justice. Make us proud. The best chance any man has is to really be patient and really take his time. The woman is usually going to push to move things forward because she has an agenda, and the man always has to push back. If you're not willing to be patient, if you're not willing to abide by my timeline then I'm just going to walk. Time is your ally, if it's good it's only going to get better if there are problems they're going to manifest themselves over time. Always be willing to walk, plenty more fish in the sea, especially here. Best advice given on this forum in years! Well said!
April 5, 2025Apr 5 On 4/2/2025 at 9:41 PM, Cameroni said: The problem with the initial meeting is of course that she will hide her true personality As does everyone - a guy might take a lady for an expensive first date meal to show off his skills as a provider. But, he is not going to go out to an expensive restaurant every night. Everyone puts on a good face for first impressions. That is the mating dance... But eventually it goes beyond looks nd hopefully you have a companion that you love and trust and enjoy being with and making their life better along with your own.
April 5, 2025Apr 5 Author 32 minutes ago, Thingamabob said: Allow plenty of time together before commitment, in Thailand or in any other country. This is extremely important today. We are now faced with an epidemic of mentally ill women. Narcissists, and women who only seek fun. They have been trained all their lives to get that dopamine hit, that feel good, which social media provides when they get a like or view. However, when you are in a relationship with someone you cannot keep giving her that dopamine hit. Eventually this will not work anymore. The woman with integrity and good character will understand that the honeymoon phase cannot last and will work to resolve issues that arise because of this start of the "mundane", when boredom sets in. However, the narcissist, the woman who seeks only fun, she will quickly seek out a new supply of dopamine, in the guise of a new guy. Even if he is not as good as you on paper, he is new and you are old news. So before you truly commit to a girl, you need to see if she is a narcissist, a seeker of fun, someone whose commitment is worthless, someone who does not in fact commit. Someone who is just a clown, playing a part. They will always try to convincec you that you are to blame. But you are not, she is a clown playing a role, she is mentally ill, she is a narcissist. Make sure she is not this.
April 5, 2025Apr 5 Author 7 minutes ago, 1FinickyOne said: As does everyone - a guy might take a lady for an expensive first date meal to show off his skills as a provider. But, he is not going to go out to an expensive restaurant every night. Everyone puts on a good face for first impressions. That is the mating dance... But eventually it goes beyond looks nd hopefully you have a companion that you love and trust and enjoy being with and making their life better along with your own. Exactly. This is why vetting takes a long time and cannot be done in one day or one week. For the longest time a woman will play a role, hide her bad sides and her true self. Even her past, her history. Only in time is all this revealed, but revealed it will be. You should of course never take her out to an expensive meal, this is leading with your wallet and you are training her to expect the wrong thing. Unless you go to fancy restaurants every day of course and that's the real you. But you should show her the real you, what you really do in your normal life. It is not good to lie to woman and counter productive. She will lie to you of course, and you must always keep your eyes open.
April 5, 2025Apr 5 On 4/1/2025 at 11:37 AM, Yagoda said: Have a good looking old man offer her $1000 USD You're talking about yourself, am I right?
April 5, 2025Apr 5 11 minutes ago, ujayujay said: You're talking about yourself, am I right? If he fronts the G
April 5, 2025Apr 5 IMO, the best way to truly understand a Thai woman - any woman for that matter - is to investigate her secret biorhythm. Easy to do. And once you find it, it will all be honesty and loving from then on.
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