Texas Children Suffer Vitamin A Poisoning Amid Measles Outbreak Following RFK Jr's Claims

[cjinchiangrai]

12 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Just post the link to where a virus - any virus - has been isolated.

 

I know you can't. Cause there aint one.

Have three, liar.

 

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7239045/

 

https://www.pasteur.fr/en/research-journal/news/40-years-hiv-discovery-virus-responsible-aids-identified-may-20-1983

 

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/9/11/pdfs/02-0788.pdf

[Stiddle Mump]

14 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Have three, liar.

 

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7239045/

 

https://www.pasteur.fr/en/research-journal/news/40-years-hiv-discovery-virus-responsible-aids-identified-may-20-1983

 

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/9/11/pdfs/02-0788.pdf

Not one of the three isolated the virus. 

 

They all grew an entity in a petri dish and said it was  found. No control with them either. This procedure, that the trials employ, originate from Dr Enders' measles experiments in 1954. But at least he did a control.

 

Dr Tom Cowan, and his team, has gone through these papers minutely. As has Dr Sam Bailey.

 

These white-coat virologists have a funny idea about the word 'isolate'. I know what the word isolate means. So do you. But it seems that these well paid, compromised white-coast don''t.

 

[cjinchiangrai]

8 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Not one of the three isolated the virus. 

 

They all grew an entity in a petri dish and said it was  found. No control with them either. This procedure, that the trials employ, originate from Dr Enders' measles experiments in 1954. But at least he did a control.

 

Dr Tom Cowan, and his team, has gone through these papers minutely. As has Dr Sam Bailey.

 

These white-coat virologists have a funny idea about the word 'isolate'. I know what the word isolate means. So do you. But it seems that these well paid, compromised white-coast don''t.

They isolated enough to make a vaccine for two of them, still working on the third. There are many others that have vaccines as well, like measles, mumps, polio, smallpox, rabies, anthrax...... I do knot know enough about biochemistry to debate immunology, but I seriously doubt you do either. This leaves us at an impasse, I will continue to get vaccinated and you will continue to be a threat to the rest of us.

[Stiddle Mump]

2 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

They isolated enough to make a vaccine for two of them, still working on the third. There are many others that have vaccines as well, like measles, mumps, polio, smallpox, rabies, anthrax...... I do knot know enough about biochemistry to debate immunology, but I seriously doubt you do either. This leaves us at an impasse, I will continue to get vaccinated and you will continue to be a threat to the rest of us.

They did not isolate a virus.

 

I don't have any objection to debating virology and their the virologist's dubious methods. It's not simple. There are complicated stages. But it usually ends in an ultra-thin - like a resin = being put under an electron microscope.

 

'Farewell to Virology'. By Drs Mark and Sam Bailey is worth a look.

[Globalres]

3 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

But does she make house calls?

No, she runs a research center and does not have your common type of clinic.  No white coats around.  You can go there by appointment only, so you can’t drop in.  It’s a very serene place to be.

[RocketDog]

13 hours ago, johng said:

 

If you actually listen to what he says  instead of what "the media"  says he said  then you may come to a completely different opinion.

Or not.

I tried both ways but you can't polish a turd.

[Scott Tracy]

14 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

 

I wonder how many critics are glossing over this fact...

What fact?

[Patong2021]

10 hours ago, Middle Aged Grouch said:

Amazing all the anti Trump propaganda from a bitter group of journalists from America who seem afraid in loosing their power over opinion. 

 

The big pharmas and lax american doctors have been poisoning america for decades in over prescribing all kinds of strong drugs that have created a generation of legal addicts in America. But strangely the press never pointed it out before.

 

Please educate me. How have the "big pharmas" been poisoning america? What are these evil drugs? It's not the drugs that are the problem its the people who play with them. 

[Patong2021]

11 hours ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

WASHINGTON (AP) — A top White House official has pledged that the CIA will no longer use vaccination programs as cover for spying operations. The agency used the ruse in targeting Osama bin Laden before the U.S. raid that killed him in 2011.

Lisa Monaco, President Barack Obama’s top counterterrorism adviser, wrote to the deans of 13 prominent public health schools last week, saying that the CIA has agreed it would no longer use vaccination programs or workers for intelligence purposes. The agency also agreed to not use genetic materials obtained through such programs.

 

https://www.apnews.com/article/44b83d52c6e64230afce0e9c544c32bd

 

Ok, but my statement is still accurate and I stand by it. "The 3 letter agencies did not use measle vaccination or polio eradication programs for spying.  This was a false claim promoted by  certian factions who were opposed to vaccines. Pakistan tribal members were killing WHO  polio health workers  long before the  claims of spying were ever made."

The incident that is refered to was an isolated rogue event undertaken to find Osama Bin Laden.  It was not sanctioned by any health agency. In the case you refer to, which was an operational failure, ONE retired Pakistani physician was hired to collect DNA samples under the guise of a Hepatitis vaccination program.   Measles and Polio vaccines are WHO authorized and host country supported and sanctioned activities.  The CIA vaccine sponsorship was offered as a private voluntary undertaking in one location, Abbottabad. Yes it was morally wrong, but it was one isolated event. It rightfully drew condemnation and rebuke from worldwide health agencies.

[NoDisplayName]

6 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

Ok, but my statement is still accurate and I stand by it. "The 3 letter agencies did not use measle vaccination or polio eradication programs for spying.  This was a false claim promoted by  certian factions who were opposed to vaccines. Pakistan tribal members were killing WHO  polio health workers  long before the  claims of spying were ever made."

The incident that is refered to was an isolated rogue event undertaken to find Osama Bin Laden.  It was not sanctioned by any health agency. In the case you refer to, which was an operational failure, ONE retired Pakistani physician was hired to collect DNA samples under the guise of a Hepatitis vaccination program.   Measles and Polio vaccines are WHO authorized and host country supported and sanctioned activities.  The CIA vaccine sponsorship was offered as a private voluntary undertaking in one location, Abbottabad. Yes it was morally wrong, but it was one isolated event. It rightfully drew condemnation and rebuke from worldwide health agencies.

 

 

They never did it, except for when they did and got caught.

[BangkokReady]

59 minutes ago, Scott Tracy said:

What fact?

 

"the U.S. government is “delivering vitamin A” to West Texas to combat the outbreak and that doctors are seeing “very, very good results.”"

[Patong2021]

11 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

 

They never did it, except for when they did and got caught.

 

It is the only operation  that has been identified and if there are no other known operations, your argument does not hold.

And again, I remind you that the Pakistani tribes people were killing health workers long before there were any CIA operations.

[fredwiggy]

9 hours ago, Globalres said:

No, she runs a research center and does not have your common type of clinic.  No white coats around.  You can go there by appointment only, so you can’t drop in.  It’s a very serene place to be.

Just kidding, and wishing she was close.

[fredwiggy]

11 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Thanks for the reply Fred. Unfortunately you are not right.

 

A vaccine supposedly does various things. But essentially it, through demonstration, and irritation, 'teaches' the body to be better prepared for the entity; If and when it arrives. What is the entity? The dreaded, mysterious virus of course.

 

Because a virus has never been found to exist, and therefore not cause an illness, I must put a big ? against a vaccine. Any vaccine.

 

Don't you see Fred mate. It is all a giant hoax!?

 

I know what a vaccine does, as all of us have the ability to research things. Unfortunately you don't understand me. I go by facts , as opinions mean nothing.If you don't believe what you read, how do you get along in life? Much of it is facts, and some is opinions who happen to be right on. Of course, much of what you read and hear is just opinions, and they are wrong. I'm guessing you might not realize, you have had vaccinations in your life, as your parents got you a few when you were very young, and might have saved your life without you realizing it.

[Red Phoenix]

18 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

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Hopefully Kennedy will do some good. But for me, he will just be tinkering round the edges.

https://www.change.org/p/urge-robert-f-kennedy-jr-to-immediately-ban-covid-vaccines-and-investigate

[Presnock]

20 hours ago, Walker88 said:

Let me use one of POTUS' stock phrases to describe the carnage of his Administration in just 2.5 horrendous months:

 

"Nobody's ever seen anything like it".

guess that is why the experts jumped from 25 to 40% and now to 60% chance of having a recession in the US when Biden left, the economy was booming compared to the rest of the world and I am and have forever been against all democrats and their policies.  IMHO a scary situation for many Americans, especially the old wondering if SS, Medicare and Medicaid will be negatively affected by the Trump/ELON policies.  Maybe that far-right conspiracy theorist could be consulted and help change Trump's mind.

[pedro01]

"Measles is a major cause of childhood morbidity and mortality. Vitamin A deficiency is a recognized risk factor for severe measles infections. The World Health Organization (WHO) recommends a daily oral dose of vitamin A for two days to children with measles living in areas where vitamin A deficiency may be present."

 

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7076287/

 

Seems like it does help.

[Briggsy]

1 hour ago, pedro01 said:

"Measles is a major cause of childhood morbidity and mortality. Vitamin A deficiency is a recognized risk factor for severe measles infections. The World Health Organization (WHO) recommends a daily oral dose of vitamin A for two days to children with measles living in areas where vitamin A deficiency may be present."

 

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7076287/

 

Seems like it does help.

This is a conflation of number of facts leading to a totally erroneous conclusion. It has already been discussed and dismissed earlier in the thread. However, I will repeat the main errors.

 

There is no widespread Vitamin A deficiency in the U.S.

Overdosing on Vitamin A leads to severe health risks, possibly fatal.

Immunisation is a proven and excellent way of preventing measles in the first place.

Providing Vitamin A to children with measles who are not deficient in Vitamin A will not combat the disease.

 

The post by @pedro01 is an excellent example of completely flawed logic.

[Stiddle Mump]

11 minutes ago, Briggsy said:

Immunisation is a proven and excellent way of preventing measles in the first place.

Nonsense!!

 

Measles is not anything but a set of symptoms. Why not do some research on the underlying reasons for them?

 

The symptoms of measles are the body's natural reactions to undesirables.