Tariff pause - Trump IS an idiot !!

[StandardIssue]

3 hours ago, johng said:

There is normally some give and take in a negotiation ,Trump has shown he is willing to be flexible..

😋

 

His whole rationale for the Tariffs is flawed. No time to go into it but Tariffs based on trade deficits is just .. dumb. It makes no sense. I saw my retirement portfolio jump wildly about this last week. Insanity by a sophomore elected by a bunch of people who were wholly bamboozled.

[Yagoda]

9 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

Trump is a master strategist.  The tariffs scared people into negotiating, they are now paused while the negotiations take place.

 

 

Yeah, the Temu  (?) thing was fabulous...the de minimus rule was huge for Chinese industry. Now, all the little doodads and googaws and crap we buy with our surplus money wont look so attractive any more? Do you really need all those fancy weed pipes pumped out in a Chinese City?

 

Wonder how those $5 day peasant pipe makers are going to react when folks go back to corn cobs.

 

The Chinese vulnerability is the fact that a good portion of the cash they earn is by selling crap no one needs, except for the fact that its cheap.

 

Shouldnt we be applauding the effect of less consumption on the environment, btw.

 

 

[Fat is a type of crazy]

19 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Yeah, what I'm getting from these Trump threads is that anyone can spin things any way they like.

There's no rhyme or reason.

Debating about Trump is a fool's game man.

I'll just keep my thoughts to myself from now on. 

 

Please do so. Your cutesie ingenue comments get tedious. 

[TorquayFan]

4 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

yes, that's accurate. 

trump's tariffs are not exactly "reciprocal".

they're exaggerated.

but it could be a "negotiation tactic" on his part. 

 

Frogs whilst I admire your blind devotion to Trump - it IS blind !

 

When you write, "trump's tariffs are not exactly "reciprocal" the truth is they ARE NOT RECIPROCAL AT ALL. As for 'exaggeration' that's an irrelevant and incorrect word in this context.

 

As for "negotiation tactic" - that reminds me of the Goon Show years ago - "it's all part of a masterly plan".

 

Now we have a 'Goon Show' in the USA !!!

 

 

 

[jas007]

22 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

Look like Trump should be prosecuted for rigging the market, and offering insider information.

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trumps-buy-tip-social-media-230226399.html

NEW YORK (AP) — When Donald Trump offered some financial advice Wednesday morning, stocks were wavering between gains and losses.

But that was about to change.

“THIS IS A GREAT TIME TO BUY!!! DJT,” he wrote on his social media platform Truth Social at 9:37 a.m.

Less than four hours later, Trump announced a 90-day pause on nearly all his tariffs. Stocks soared on the news, closing up 9.5% by the end of trading. The market, measured by the S&P 500, gained back about $4 trillion, or 70%, of the value it had lost over the previous four trading days.

 

 

But that's the kind of thing Trump would always say, right?  That's his mindset.  A new beginning for America.  "Liberation day" when the tariffs were announced.  Everything is great or will  be soon.  

[jvs]

Can any one agree that if Trump would be working for a boss he would be out on the street ?

[save the frogs]

11 hours ago, TorquayFan said:

 

Now we have a 'Goon Show' in the USA !!!

He paused the tariffs just for YOU!

He reads AN and noticed people like you getting "Yippy".

Dont get too yippy, man.

 

 

[BangkokReady]

33 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

Which countries, other than the third world ones, are negotiating with Trump?

 

Not super-specific at the moment, but multiple reliable news sites are reporting it.

 

https://www.investopedia.com/which-countries-are-retaliating-and-which-are-negotiating-trump-s-tariffs-update-11711796

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2025/04/09/will-trump-negotiate-tariffs-president-touts-talks-with-other-countries-but-unclear-how-long-theyll-take/

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/08/politics/trump-tariff-negotiations-foreign-leaders/index.html

 

Although I realise this will come as bad news to Trump-haters, it is at least fairly positive news for the US.  🤷‍♂️

[IvorBiggun2]

39 minutes ago, jvs said:

Can any one agree that if Trump would be working for a boss he would be out on the street ?

 

You don't get elected twice to be president of the US if you're stupid.

[jvs]

6 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

 

You don't get elected twice to be president of the US if you're stupid.

Let me fix that just a little bit,

You can get elected twice if your voters are stupid.!

What is the old saying?"you can fool some of the people,

[TorquayFan]

Very droll Frogs ! Yet another brainless Trump speech, (observed not by a 'hater' but judged on merit).

 

Ready - yes the mess Trump created will take a lot of clearing up - there will be many discussions before matters are repaired. Meantime, many will have suffered losses, some relationships will take years to repair and some may be irreparable. The unfortunate fact for Trump is that the US deficit is caused by citizens wanting to buy goods made abroad - that problem is still there!

 

Most would have agreed with measured and specific actions to address the deficit, with targeted tariffs for a few, interest rates and taxation - because, in the end, as USA manufacturing will take aeons to regenerate, citizens still want to buy and the USA still has a deficit.

 

 

[Hawaiian]

4 hours ago, johng said:

There is normally some give and take in a negotiation ,Trump has shown he is willing to be flexible..

😋

As flexible a boomerang.

[TorquayFan]

13 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

 

You don't get elected twice to be president of the US if you're stupid.

 

Nice try Ivor 🫢 However, Trump is the living proof that your assertion, is NOT true.

 

 

[John Drake]

How is Trump folding on tariffs before there is even one "deal" going to:

 

Reshore jobs (imagine you started the process to build a factory in the US on Trump's tariff promises a month ago and now you get this), because this fold up will mainly shift jobs to places such as Southeast Asia and Mexico. 

 

Make tariffs equal out (the tariffs he imposed, he said, only equalized things, unless . . . he was lying)

 

Stop Chinese transshipments in places like Southeast Asia, where the tariffs promised to make sure that didn't happen, unless . . . he was lying.

 

Strengthen the dollar, as he promised to tariff any country like BRICS that threatened to undermine the dollar as a reserve currency, unless . . . he was lying.

[jvs]

5 minutes ago, TorquayFan said:

Very droll Frogs ! Yet another brainless Trump speech, (observed not by a 'hater' but judged on merit).

 

Ready - yes the mess Trump created will take a lot of clearing up - there will be many discussions before matters are repaired. Meantime, many will have suffered losses, some relationships will take years to repair and some may be irreparable. The unfortunate fact for Trump is that the US deficit is caused by citizens wanting to buy goods made abroad - that problem is still there!

 

Most would have agreed with measured and specific actions to address the deficit, with targeted tariffs for a few, interest rates and taxation - because, in the end, as USA manufacturing will take aeons to regenerate, citizens still want to buy and the USA still has a deficit.

 

 

Yes a lot of US citizens want to lower the deficit! A very good idea ,also for the rest of the world.

Also a lot of US citizens are up to their neck in debt.

Paying off one credit card using another one.

That is not so bright.

When ever i see what my relatives own in the US i am always surprised at how much stuff they have!

A big house,a house at the lake,a boat, two motorbikes,a snow  scooter ,two cars and a 4x4 ,a whole load of other stuff.

In all honesty living in "riches" like that how can you complain the world is not treating you fairly?

 

[phetphet]

Looks like the rumour about the 90 day pause in tariffs, was leaked a little bit too early on Monday. Still, all his cronies will have made big profits on their insider dealing now.

 

What's the betting this 90 day pause will be permanent?

[Cameroni]

5 hours ago, TorquayFan said:

To 'Save the Frogs' and others who support this Trump idiot - hang your heads in shame.

 

Lawless before he came to Office and Lawless now, this convicted Felon and Sex offender should NEVER have been elected.

 

I am not a 'Trump hater' - (Trump followers like to describe those with rational doubtsabout him as 'haters'). Not so. It's obvious at a glance that Trump doesn't think things through and he ends up in a mess, dragging the USA with him.

 

Trump has been a stain on and a disgrace to the great USA from the start. Let's see how this latest nonsense goes down with the Republican hierarchy.

 

God save America. And save us all from this idiot.

 

 

 

You better look in the mirror. Countries are lining up to give Trump what he wanted. He's a genius. The tariffs are only paused, and he is restructuring global trade. It was always the intention to negotiate different terms with each country.

 

 

[dinsdale]

9 minutes ago, phetphet said:

Looks like the rumour about the 90 day pause in tariffs, was leaked a little bit too early on Monday. Still, all his cronies will have made big profits on their insider dealing now.

 

What's the betting this 90 day pause will be permanent?

Doubt it. Trump pushed tariffs in the election. People voted him in. Tariffs are happening. They haven't been stopped just set at 10% for the next 90 days except China whose getting 125%. This is the only example so far of a tit for tat tariff war. Every other country will negotiate for a better deal in the next 90 days. 

[jvs]

2 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Doubt it. Trump pushed tariffs in the election. People voted him in. Tariffs are happening. They haven't been stopped just set at 10% for the next 90 days except China whose getting 125%. This is the only example so far of tit for tat tariff war. Every other country will negotiate for a better deal in the next 90 days. 

Not for Canada either!

 

[jvs]

30 minutes ago, jvs said:

Let me fix that just a little bit,

You can get elected twice if your voters are stupid.!

What is the old saying?"you can fool some of the people,

For the person who posted a confused emoji.

You can fool some of the people sometimes but you can not fool all of the people all the time!

I understand you are confused but just feel free to ask for an explanation next time.

 

[IvorBiggun2]

36 minutes ago, TorquayFan said:

Nice try Ivor 🫢 However, Trump is the living proof that your assertion, is NOT true.

 

 

Nice try TorguayFan. 

Quote

Donald Trump graduated from the Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania in 1968, with a Bachelor of Science degree in economics and anthropology. 

 

 

[Lacessit]

Trump thought he could do anything. The bond market showed him otherwise.

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-10/donald-trump-met-match-on-tariffs-in-bond-market-rout/105160436

 

 

[Purdey]

More cunning stunts from the White House. I wonder who made a buck on the stock market.

[Hawaiian]

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

Trump thought he could do anything. The bond market showed him otherwise.

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-10/donald-trump-met-match-on-tariffs-in-bond-market-rout/105160436

 

 

Not to disagree, but he CAN do just about anything and is finding out it that much of what he doesn't go as planned.

[jvs]

13 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

 

Nice try TorguayFan. 

 

 

Do you really want to open that can of worms?

No one who was in school with him or any of his professors had anything good to say about him.

And that is putting it mildly .

 

[jas007]

2 hours ago, StandardIssue said:

 

His whole rationale for the Tariffs is flawed. No time to go into it but Tariffs based on trade deficits is just .. dumb. It makes no sense. I saw my retirement portfolio jump wildly about this last week. Insanity by a sophomore elected by a bunch of people who were wholly bamboozled.

Let's assume you're correct, for the purpose of discussion.  So what?  

 

At this point, the election is over, Trump is the President of the USA, and the people on the left, the media propaganda machine, and many people on this board seem to think that arguing that tariffs are stupid will "fix" the  world's problems.  These same people offer no solutions. Unless "Trump is an idiot" is some sort of solution.  I think not.  But it does serve the purpose of those whose only agenda is to "get Trump." If that's not sophomoric, I'm not sure what is.  

[Screaming]

Actually, President Trump is a genius and a master of the "Art of the Deal." No other President has been able to encourage other countries to drop their anti-competitive tariffs against the United States.  President Trump is just playing his hand skillfully and will win as usual once again.

[spidermike007]

My guess is that he got so much pressure from Wall Street, billionaires and other people who are losing a fortune that he was forced to put a pause on all this. The upside is that hopefully it will give the lowly US a chance to negotiate deals with many nations and avoid this extreme level of economic sabotage that Trump's been engaged in. 

[rough diamond]

1 hour ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

 

You don't get elected twice to be president of the US if you're stupid.

Trump proved you wrong.

[TorquayFan]

35 minutes ago, jas007 said:

Let's assume you're correct, for the purpose of discussion.  So what?  

 

At this point, the election is over, Trump is the President of the USA, and the people on the left, the media propaganda machine, and many people on this board seem to think that arguing that tariffs are stupid will "fix" the  world's problems.  These same people offer no solutions. Unless "Trump is an idiot" is some sort of solution.  I think not.  But it does serve the purpose of those whose only agenda is to "get Trump." If that's not sophomoric, I'm not sure what is.  

 

(Sophomoric - 'intellectually pretentious, overconfident, conceited, etc.')

 

JAS I commented before : "the mess Trump created will take a lot of clearing up - there will be many discussions before matters are repaired. Meantime, many will have suffered losses, some relationships will take years to repair and some may be irreparable. The unfortunate fact for Trump is that the US deficit is caused by citizens wanting to buy goods made abroad - that problem is still there!

 

Most would have agreed with measured and specific actions to address the deficit, with targeted tariffs for a few, interest rates and taxation - because, in the end, as USA manufacturing will take aeons to regenerate, citizens still want to buy and the USA still has a deficit."

 

JAS - I reject that accusation. ATB