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Posted
10 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Trump lost the last tariff war with China in his first presidency.

 

The Smoot-Hawley tariffs of 1930 were a prime cause of the Great Depression.

 

Why anyone thinks he can get a different result this time is beyond my comprehension.

The Great Depression started before Smoot-Hawley. 

 

But yeah, run with it.

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It's going to be fun to watch POTUS gag when China and Gov Gavin Newsom announce their own separate trade deal.

 

39 million California consumers are an attractive market.

 

That's more consumers than ND, SD, WY, AK, AR, MS, WV, TN, KY, IA, NE, NV, UT, ID, KS, MT and AL combined.

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Posted
43 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

It passed in the House in May, 1929 BEFORE the October crash. It passed the Senate in early 1930, and was signed into law by Hoover in June 1930.

 

This is similar to how POTUS enacted his tariffs, albeit Smoot Hawley did flip flop.

 

The US market began to fall once POTUS started barking incessantly about his tariff plan, even though the tariffs did not take effect until this week. The market was already down a lot in anticipation.

 

POTUS caved yesterday, as he got too much pressure from financial markets and certain market players, such as Bill Ackman and Jamie Dimon.

 

Smoot-Hawley took a Recession and turned it into a Depression. POTUS will be instrumental in history repeating, unless he caves again.

 

No, it was FDR that turned a recession into the depression. 

 

 

Posted
1 hour ago, proton said:

The PLA

 

And, like an old soldier....he will just fade away?

 

Never get into a ground war with China.

 

This is why we need more DRONES.....

 

We can take China.

 

But, the American people must UNITE against our common threat.

 

China is even more dangerous to democracy than it ever was.

 

China has used us, and our resources, which they have sucked in, in order to promote COMMUNISM in the style of Xi....

In an entirely new way which just might spell the end of humanity...

And soon.

 

Please do not underestimate the dastardliness of the UnClean Commie mind of XiJinPing....

 

No.

Never.

 

Note:  By the way.....

 

The Thought of XiJinPing....or XiJinPing Thought was NEVER written by him...because....he had to rely on a ghost writer.

 

Xi is a dunce, as we all know.

 

He must be ridden out on a rail, by the People, and the sooner the better, if they wish to improve their country and their well-being.

 

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This fate would be FAR TOO GOOD for the likes of this bounder, XI.

 

He deserves much worse.

 

And, he stole BILLIONS from his own people.

 

The guy's a true menace.

 

Note: I guess I will not be returning to China, any time soon....haha....F XI....BIG TIME....!!!!

 

 

I listen to music like this in order to help me to survive the knowledge that people like Xi actually exist in this world.....

 

EVIL men do exist.

Make no mistake about this....!!!!!

 

 

Posted
19 hours ago, Jingthing said:

The question says it all.

Reportedly China if it chooses has the power to destroy the USA with this trade war.

Yes it would be a big sacrifice, but China is run by a total dictator so the people will comply regardless.

I

 

 

Weren't you saying, daily, repeatedly that Trump is a dictator? 

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Posted
19 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Who is stronger?

Both sides have strengths and weaknesses.


AI answer:

The United States is generally considered to have the upper hand in a trade war with China due to its larger economy and significant trade deficit with China, which gives it more leverage. However, China is betting on its ability to endure longer-term economic pain, as it has a more centralized economic system that can withstand pressure for extended periods.

Amer4ica also has a much nicer land mass than China. Google the most polluted hell holes and thats China along with India. China has been built an a terrible lie as it's foundation. 

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Posted
16 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

The US, of course. Xi outclasses Trump by 60 IQ points. And he knows how to negotiate, something Trump is terrible at. China is in a far stronger position. The US has tens of thousands of companies that have spent trillions of dollars on infrastructure to manufacture in China. They simply cannot afford to levy these tariffs long term, it would cripple the US economy. 

 

Trump is a dunce. 

Yeah Chinese infrastructure. lol Trump may be a dunce but you are venerating Xi unneccassrily.

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Posted
13 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Most Americans can barely afford to live at the current wage levels.

The entire premise of this trade war is moronic.

Americans don't want to do manual labor.

Any new factories are going to be totally automated providing jobs mostly for advanced engineers.

Globalization is good.

Sure some strategic industries may need limited protection.

Those are the RATIONAL uses of tariffs.

Compete and invest for a decent future based on higher value labor.

Those that will never be able to catch up can be put on guaranteed minimum income, VR consoles, and mood altering drugs.

I realize that sounds harsh, but I'm serious. For those that can't catch up, there aren't going to jobs for them anyway. Better to have a realistic humane approach. 

Why would the USA want to be the grunt "worker bee" nation again? Is that great?!?

You assume a lot about most Americans for a guy that sits on his fat ass in Thailand doing next to nothing, except collecting his SS. Never pretend you speak for most Americans. When was the last time you were here to qualify that statement?

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Cryingdick said:

Yeah Chinese infrastructure. lol Trump may be a dunce but you are venerating Xi unneccassrily.

There is no "may be" about it.

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Posted
2 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

 

Weren't you saying, daily, repeatedly that Trump is a dictator? 

Another one insisting on being simple minded or more like faking being dumb.

There are levels of being a dictator.

Trump is obviously working rapidly on taking all power in the U.S. but he's not there yet (and hopefully never will be).

Xi has been there yet for a very long time.

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Posted
8 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

I use this mug for my tea, every morning....

 

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I don't believe that you really feel that way. You come off as way too intelligent for that.

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Posted
7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I don't believe that you really feel that way. You come off as way too intelligent for that.

 

If you mean that I do not see the world, or anything, as either black or white, then...

I agree with you.

 

Posted
7 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

And, like an old soldier....he will just fade away?

 

Never get into a ground war with China.

 

This is why we need more DRONES.....

 

We can take China.

 

But, the American people must UNITE against our common threat.

 

China is even more dangerous to democracy than it ever was.

 

China has used us, and our resources, which they have sucked in, in order to promote COMMUNISM in the style of Xi....

In an entirely new way which just might spell the end of humanity...

And soon.

 

Please do not underestimate the dastardliness of the UnClean Commie mind of XiJinPing....

 

No.

Never.

 

Note:  By the way.....

 

The Thought of XiJinPing....or XiJinPing Thought was NEVER written by him...because....he had to rely on a ghost writer.

 

Xi is a dunce, as we all know.

 

He must be ridden out on a rail, by the People, and the sooner the better, if they wish to improve their country and their well-being.

 

image.png.e60449dc511a92956a7ee626f67d71c1.png

 

This fate would be FAR TOO GOOD for the likes of this bounder, XI.

 

He deserves much worse.

 

And, he stole BILLIONS from his own people.

 

The guy's a true menace.

 

Note: I guess I will not be returning to China, any time soon....haha....F XI....BIG TIME....!!!!

 

 

I listen to music like this in order to help me to survive the knowledge that people like Xi actually exist in this world.....

 

EVIL men do exist.

Make no mistake about this....!!!!!

 

 

"The Thought of XiJinPing....or XiJinPing Thought was NEVER written by him...because....he had to rely on a ghost writer.

 

Xi is a dunce, as we all know."

Any other dunce heads of state who used a ghost writer come to mind?

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Posted
8 minutes ago, placeholder said:

"The Thought of XiJinPing....or XiJinPing Thought was NEVER written by him...because....he had to rely on a ghost writer.

 

Xi is a dunce, as we all know."

Any other dunce heads of state who used a ghost writer come to mind?

 

You mean....Little Bush?

小布希?

 

Posted
9 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Your comments about China suggest otherwise.

 

Correct.

When I see China, I see RED.

 

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