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Beyond the Veil: Philosopher Claims Heaven Is Real—and There Are Seven Levels of It

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Beyond the Veil: Philosopher Claims Heaven Is Real—and There Are Seven Levels of It

 

Philosopher and author Chris Carter believes he has found compelling proof that death is not the end but the beginning of an extraordinary journey. Inspired by a year spent in a supposedly haunted farmhouse in England, Carter’s interest in the supernatural has evolved into a decades-long pursuit, culminating in his latest work, The Case for the Afterlife. In it, he argues that consciousness survives the body, that reincarnation is real, and that the afterlife is composed of multiple realms—seven distinct “levels” of heaven.

 

Carter, who studied at Oxford, describes minor but eerie events in the English farmhouse—like doors slamming inexplicably and a disembodied female voice—as the catalyst for his lifelong research into life beyond death. His investigations span near-death experiences, apparitions, children who remember past lives, and post-mortem communications with the deceased. Through these studies, he concludes that there is overwhelming evidence that consciousness not only continues after death but progresses through a series of spiritual planes.

 

One of the most detailed visions of the afterlife comes from Frederic Myers, a 19th-century poet and founder of the Society for Psychical Research. Myers died at 57, yet reportedly communicated vivid post-death messages through psychics years later—most notably through Irish medium Geraldine Cummins, whom many considered credible. Myers outlined a structured journey of the soul through several realms, beginning with Earth and continuing through spiritual levels he named Hades, the third plane, Eido, the Plane of Flame, the Plane of Light, and finally Out-Yonder—described as a flight from the material universe.

 

 

Carter explains that, according to Myers, the first realm after death, Hades, is not a place of torment but a resting ground. “I died in Italy, a land I loved, and I was very weary at the time of my passing. For me Hades was a place of rest, a place of half-lights and drowsy peace,” Myers said. From there, the soul moves to the third plane, which is much like Earth but far more beautiful. Here, souls live in communities shaped by shared values and desires, or in solitary environments crafted from their own imaginations.

 

The fourth plane, Eido, is what Myers called the first true heaven—vivid, magnificent, and more stunning than anything imaginable on Earth. It is here that he claimed to reside. Beyond this lie the fifth, sixth, and seventh planes, each progressively more removed from earthly experience. In the sixth, beings no longer have physical forms but exist as pure white light, embodying the thought of their Creator.

 

Not all souls, however, experience joy and serenity in the afterlife. Carter notes that the initial plane one enters depends on their moral and spiritual development on Earth. Those who lived selfish or harmful lives may find themselves in the darker, lower regions of the third plane. These areas are bleak and devoid of children, inhabited only by those stuck in a state of moral immaturity. “How long they remain in this nether region depends on how long they choose to remain in a selfish, morally undeveloped state,” Carter explains.

 

Rejecting the conventional religious idea of heaven and hell, Carter portrays hell not as eternal torment but as a kind of mental anguish—a “fire of the mind.” He stresses that the journey toward the divine is long and gradual. When asked if souls encounter God soon after death, his answer is clear: “Absolutely not.” According to Myers’s messages, God exists at a level far beyond the initial planes. “We… only can come close in what he describes as the seventh plane,” Carter states. “Immediately after leaving the Earth, we occupy planes of existence not nearly exalted or advanced enough to closely approach the divine.”

 

Even Sir Oliver Lodge, a prominent physicist and friend of Myers, supported the idea that the soul doesn’t awaken to full spiritual reality immediately. In the foreword to one of Cummins’ books, he wrote, “We are not transported to the full blaze of reality all at once.”

Ultimately, Carter’s work challenges us to reconsider what lies beyond death. Not an abrupt end, he suggests, but a profound and ongoing evolution—one in which our choices in this life determine the course of our soul’s next steps.

 

Based on a report by Daily Mail  2025-04-13

 

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Or we may just be food for the worms.

 

How does he know , has he been ....

 

regards Worgeordie

All he needs to supply is evidence that is testable and verifiable. The world is waiting.

I totally accept that there are 7 levels of heaven.

Two young ladies in a Nuru massage place in Phuket once took me to level 5. :thumbsup:

The problem I have with a heaven predicatred on "moral maturity" is this:

 

Morality is perspective. Why would heaven be based on the perspective of humans of what is good and bad?

 

 

But heaven and hell for which religion?

 

Christians only, is the Christian one divided between each  separate division of Christians, Catholic, Protestant. Orthodox etc, Buddhists (all variants), Hindus, Sikhs Moslems etc or one for all religions, or a separate one for each different religion?

 

How far back does this "Heaven and Hades go? To the Vikings. or further back into the pagan times. What about religion that worshipped animals?

 

It is very easy to claim something like that as no proof is necessary and nobody can prove that you are right or wrong. There will always be people who are willing to believe you.

 

Some religions permit you to be evil all your life, but one quick confession on your death bed and all is forgiven and you can go to heaven.

 

Really?

 

 

Here's a quick philosophical question for the guy that puzzles me.  If your spouse dies before you do and you remarry, which one do you spend eternity with?

 

3 minutes ago, impulse said:

Here's a quick philosophical question for the guy that puzzles me.  If your spouse dies before you do and you remarry, which one do you spend eternity with?

 

Both?

4 minutes ago, saakura said:

Both?

 

I don't know.  Seems to be one of those imponderables. 

 

And what if there are 8 levels?  Or just 6?

 

 

23 minutes ago, billd766 said:

But heaven and hell for which religion?

 

Christians only, is the Christian one divided between each  separate division of Christians, Catholic, Protestant. Orthodox etc, Buddhists (all variants), Hindus, Sikhs Moslems etc or one for all religions, or a separate one for each different religion?

 

How far back does this "Heaven and Hades go? To the Vikings. or further back into the pagan times. What about religion that worshipped animals?

 

It is very easy to claim something like that as no proof is necessary and nobody can prove that you are right or wrong. There will always be people who are willing to believe you.

 

Some religions permit you to be evil all your life, but one quick confession on your death bed and all is forgiven and you can go to heaven.

 

Really?

 

 

"Some religions permit you to be evil all your life, but one quick confession on your death bed and all is forgiven and you can go to heaven."

 

How dare you slander "the one true" church like this.

I believe it needs to be a lengthy confession.

Additionally, high probability of a penance of saying 10 "Our Fathers" and 10 "Hail Marys".

And, as precondition to all of this, having a truly contrite heart.

So not really so trivial.

 

 

 

2 hours ago, cdemundo said:

"Some religions permit you to be evil all your life, but one quick confession on your death bed and all is forgiven and you can go to heaven."

 

How dare you slander "the one true" church like this.

I believe it needs to be a lengthy confession.

Additionally, high probability of a penance of saying 10 "Our Fathers" and 10 "Hail Marys".

And, as precondition to all of this, having a truly contrite heart.

So not really so trivial.

 

 

 

Who says it is the one true church?

 

This is the whole problem with religion across the world.  Each religion claims to be the one true religion, and that their god is the one true god. Who decides what is true?

 

You, mw, somebody else, some unknown god who many people pray to but who never listens and never speaks to anybody.

 

I gave up on religion decades ago when I realised that.

 

You are more than welcome to believe in something that doesn't exist nut please don; push that stuff on to anybody else, especially onto children who know nothing different.

 

If you want people to believe you, lay out the proof. Find people who have died and come back to life and can prove it.

Morality also changes and develops. So presumably what would have got you into heaven in the last 3 years could have prevented you going to heaven 70 years ago. If moral maturity is the threshhold to enter heaven.

 

It is not like morality has stayed the same for all eternity.

Oh another delusion....

 

Mehdi Hasan asking Richard Dawkins if he was 's u r e' that God did not exist.

Dawkins replied: "I am as sure as you are sure that there are no Leprechauns and no Fairies'.

 

But delusions will remain. Lots of money in that...

3 hours ago, billd766 said:

Who says it is the one true church?

 

This is the whole problem with religion across the world.  Each religion claims to be the one true religion, and that their god is the one true god. Who decides what is true?

 

You, mw, somebody else, some unknown god who many people pray to but who never listens and never speaks to anybody.

 

I gave up on religion decades ago when I realised that.

 

You are more than welcome to believe in something that doesn't exist nut please don; push that stuff on to anybody else, especially onto children who know nothing different.

 

If you want people to believe you, lay out the proof. Find people who have died and come back to life and can prove it.

You might want to see your family doctor, I suspect you are suffering from an irony deficiency.

This is not as rare as one might think.

 

6 hours ago, impulse said:

Here's a quick philosophical question for the guy that puzzles me.  If your spouse dies before you do and you remarry, which one do you spend eternity with?

 

The two mothers-in-law.

On 4/13/2025 at 1:20 PM, impulse said:

Here's a quick philosophical question for the guy that puzzles me.  If your spouse dies before you do and you remarry, which one do you spend eternity with?

 

If you believe the gospels, neither. Read the bit about the 7 brothers with the same wife.

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