Trump Admin Revokes Four Thousand Student Visas Over Serious Crimes

[wwest5829]

1 hour ago, sikishrory said:

He's a busy boy this Trump. I can't recall seeing a politician getting so much stuff done in such a short amount of time, ever.

 

1 hour ago, sikishrory said:

He's a busy boy this Trump. I can't recall seeing a politician getting so much stuff done in such a short amount of time, ever.

What is, “getting done”is chaos and instability. Still awaiting results of these actions. Ageeed, he certainly has caused movement.

[wwest5829]

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

 

 

$44 billion economic impact

Higher education is America’s 10th-largest export. More trade deficit. 

 

Great job Trump with another leg down on the economy. Foreign students are staying home and will not come back. 

Curious so I looked for the number 1,100,000+ international students in US higher education. Like tourists spending their money here (never mind the opportunity to create good will). So, 4,000 committing crimes. Wonder how that compares with the general population percentages? Well, if charged with crime, given due process, I have no issue with revoking Visa and deporting as undesirable. Same with any foreign citizen … including the current gang member debacle … due process and out they go.

[wwest5829]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

Very misleading. Trump is not stopping student visas for everyone. Over 1 million are issued yearly

True, Brian. Although it is also true that the incompetent handling of grabbing students off the streets or jailing for free speech is, in fact, have in g a chilling affect. So what? Not the documented fact, fewer students, tourists coming to the USA so there is and economic as well as a “good will” cost as other nations warn their citizens that going to the USA currently is not advised.

[TheAppletons]

"A federal judge blasted the Trump administration's termination of immigration records for thousands of foreign students in the United States as "arbitrary and capricious," demanding that the government provide detailed explanations as to why and how the records were terminated and what this means for students.

 

"I think we all agree it was arbitrary and capricious," Judge Ana Reyes said about the Trump administration's move to terminate records of foreign students in the Student and Exchange Visitor Information System (SEVIS), a database that schools and government agencies used to confirm if foreign students are abiding by the conditions of their stay, during a court hearing for an international student's case in Washington, D.C., on Tuesday."

 

 Tsk, tsk.  Can't punish student "lawbreakers" when you don't follow the law yourself.  

 

  Must be a "lefty, activist judge", lol.  Or maybe just the judiciary doing its job to keep the executive branch from overreach.  

 

  Either way, too bad, so sad.  Flip, flop, flip, flop.  The Trump Administration is beginning to look a lot like the Thai government, only with less common sense.

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/judge-blasts-trump-administrations-student-visa-terminations-arbitrary/story?id=121281986

[Eloquent pilgrim]

22 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

I am a far-left liberal and despise Trump and almost everything he does. This cancellation of student visas is, however, one of the worst recent offenses

 

 

Rather than just make anti-government / Trump statements, could you please give any reason why foreign students that are guests in America on student visas, should not have their visas revoked if they commit a serious crime ?

 

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, wwest5829 said:

True, Brian. Although it is also true that the incompetent handling of grabbing students off the streets or jailing for free speech is, in fact, have in g a chilling affect. So what? Not the documented fact, fewer students, tourists coming to the USA so there is and economic as well as a “good will” cost as other nations warn their citizens that going to the USA currently is not advised.

Not heard of any students jailed for free speech. Free speech has nothing to do with it. This has been covered numerous times

[Eloquent pilgrim]

6 minutes ago, wwest5829 said:

so there is and economic as well as a “good will” cost as other nations warn their citizens that going to the USA currently is not advised.

 

What other nations are warning their citizens that going to the USA currently is not advised; and please provide a link to the source ….. thanks

 

 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

7 minutes ago, wwest5829 said:

rue, Brian. Although it is also true that the incompetent handling of grabbing students off the streets or jailing for free speech

 

What students have been jailed for free speech ? ..... thanks 

 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

13 minutes ago, TheAppletons said:

"A federal judge blasted the Trump administration's termination of immigration records for thousands of foreign students in the United States as "arbitrary and capricious," demanding that the government provide detailed explanations as to why and how the records were terminated and what this means for students.

 

"I think we all agree it was arbitrary and capricious," Judge Ana Reyes said about the Trump administration's move to terminate records of foreign students in the Student and Exchange Visitor Information System (SEVIS), a database that schools and government agencies used to confirm if foreign students are abiding by the conditions of their stay, during a court hearing for an international student's case in Washington, D.C., on Tuesday."

 

 

Why have you put this quote in italics and inverted commas; it is not in the OP and you have not made any attribution to it ?

 

 

[WDSmart]

12 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

 

Rather than just make anti-government / Trump statements, could you please give any reason why foreign students that are guests in America on student visas, should not have their visas revoked if they commit a serious crime ?

 

 

 

I prefer to just make anti-Trump remarks. They just come naturally to me. 😉 

 

But, I think anyone on any type of visa should have that visa revoked if they "commit" (charged, go through due process, and are convicted) of a "serious crime" (felony).  I don't believe most of these students fit that requirement. 

[impulse]

34 minutes ago, wwest5829 said:

2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Very misleading. Trump is not stopping student visas for everyone. Over 1 million are issued yearly

True, Brian. Although it is also true that the incompetent handling of grabbing students off the streets or jailing for free speech is, in fact, have in g a chilling affect. So what? Not the documented fact, fewer students, tourists coming to the USA so there is and economic as well as a “good will” cost as other nations warn their citizens that going to the USA currently is not advised.

 

So you don't figure that 0.4% of them may be bad apples that need to go home?   They don't have to go home, but they can't stay in the USA and commit more crimes.

 

 

 

[digger70]

Trump Admin Revokes Four Thousand Student Visas Over Serious Crimes. 

 

Great job DT Well done .

Do what you Do Do Well and keep on doing that.  🙏

 

[emptypockets]

Do a wheelie on a scooter in Thailand and the might of Asean Now posters scream for deportation.

Double standards?

[TheAppletons]

1 hour ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

 

Why have you put this quote in italics and inverted commas; it is not in the OP and you have not made any attribution to it ?

 

 

 

  I put it in italics and with quotation marks because it is a quote.

 

  If you check the post I made with those words, I supplied the source at the bottom of the post (but it doesn't show up as a link, as many don't these days on AN.)  Thanks for checking in though, Mr. Wannabe Moderator.

 

  (Hint:  it's the part that starts with https://abcnews.go.com......)  

 

  

[Yagoda]

Deport more. Deport more. Deport more!

 

 

 

Watch the emojinauts on that one hahahahaha

[Yagoda]

5 hours ago, WDSmart said:

I don't know how he can be stopped, but however that could happen, I'd be all for it. 😡

So you would support the murder of our President? 

[thesetat]

11 hours ago, Social Media said:

The move signals what may be the beginning of a larger effort to examine and potentially revoke visas in other categories as well. “Perhaps in the future other visa categories, not just students, will be looked at,” the source hinted.

This would definitely be a good idea. If there were 4000 in just the school systems... Imagine the number who are not students. 

 

5 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Looks like another U-turn typical of Trump’s arbitrary action.
 

https://thepienews.com/trump-administration-reverses-termination-of-student-visas/

A shame really unless those whose Visas were restored only committed minor incidents. In BBC the report is saying that many were restored, not all 4000. It is also saying that new rules will be in force for all International students. So this will not be a problem in the future. 

Just like every country, if you go there to commit a serious crime, you serve time and get deported. The US should maintain this rule as well and enforce it.

I really find it very hard to believe that news services never told anyone in the US or world about these International students being convicted or serious crimes like trafficking and others, just to keep making Biden/Harris looking good. I can not wait to see how many normal people on Visas are caught with serious felonies committed in the US who slipped through Bidens lack of immigration enforcement. 

[wwest5829]

4 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Not heard of any students jailed for free speech. Free speech has nothing to do with it. This has been covered numerous times

Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national with a valid student visa.

[wwest5829]

4 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

What students have been jailed for free speech ? ..... thanks 

 

Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national with a valid student visa.

[Bkk Brian]

13 minutes ago, wwest5829 said:

Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national with a valid student visa.

Can you link to her being jailed for free speech as your claim was............

[WDSmart]

26 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

So you would support the murder of our President? 

I wouldn't say that I would support the murder of Trump, but I would support his being removed from office in any legal way possible. Of course, IMO, Trump is not actually the origin of all the horrendous things he's doing. It's the people behind Project 2025 who are in charge. Even if Trump were to be somehow removed, the destruction of our democratic republic would still continue. 😞

[Yagoda]

12 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

I wouldn't say that I would support the murder of Trump, but I would support his being removed from office in any legal way possible. Of course, IMO, Trump is not actually the origin of all the horrendous things he's doing. It's the people behind Project 2025 who are in charge. Even if Trump were to be somehow removed, the destruction of our democratic republic would still continue. 😞

You are not part of our Republic since your hate ridden Socialist ideology has no place in a democracy. You are an enemy of our Republic.

[WDSmart]

3 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

You are not part of our Republic since your hate ridden Socialist ideology has no place in a democracy. You are an enemy of our Republic.

A democracy, IMO, is the best choice for the government to run a socialist economy. It's a lot better than what we (the USA) has now, a plutocracy. 

I am "an enemy" of a republic. I think the need for that, especially concerning the Electoral College, is outdated and should be abandoned. I'd favor a true democratic general election to determine the presidency. For more information on this, you could read Rung & Bill:  US Electoral College - Opinion.

I think the House of Representatives is okay, as long as the number of congressmen from each state is determined on the number of registered voters and updated frequently. I think the Senate is outdated for the same reasons as the Electoral College.

[Chomper Higgot]

7 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

Only a left wing extremist could object to this; and if you are an American and object to this, then you are a traitor and a danger to the safety and welfare of ordinary American citizens.

 

 

Accusing an American of being a traitor for disagreeing with a Presidential policy enacted by executive order is extreme even if you.

 

Even the Rosenberg’s were not charged with treason, perhaps they might have been if they were objecting to performative nonsense from an idiot President.

 

[1FinickyOne]

9 hours ago, thaipo7 said:

Where are the couple stone Leftist who usually make remarks in favor of illegals or at least complaining that Trump has no right is arresting these people?  

Where have all the flowers gone - long time ago? 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Accusing an American of being a traitor for disagreeing with a Presidential policy enacted by executive order is extreme even if you.

 

Perhaps I did not make myself clear enough for you, so I will reiterate. If you are an American, and you object to foreign nationals that are a guest in your country by way of a student visa, having said visas revoked if they commit a criminal act, then you are a traitor, and a danger to the safety and welfare of ordinary American citizens.

 

That you as a left wing extremist find this unpalatable, will surprise nobody on this forum.

 

 

 

[metisdead]

Posts using derogatory and toxic nicknames or intentional misspelling of people’s names will be removed. If you don’t want your post to be removed, spell people’s names correctly, this applies to both sides of the political debate.

[Chomper Higgot]

26 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

Perhaps I did not make myself clear enough for you, so I will reiterate. If you are an American, and you object to foreign nationals that are a guest in your country by way of a student visa, having said visas revoked if they commit a criminal act, then you are a traitor, and a danger to the safety and welfare of ordinary American citizens.

 

That you as a left wing extremist find this unpalatable, will surprise nobody on this forum.

 

 

 

Let me make it clear for you.

 

That’s no definition of treason anywhere outside your own head.

[Peabody]

8 hours ago, jtrump said:

Americans are thrilled with this new administration that does what it campaigned on.

Only 39% of AmeriKKKans

[riclag]

36 minutes ago, Peabody said:

Only 39% of AmeriKKKans

Ameridems were the creators and participants of the kkk!

But you already knew that and couldn’t 

resist to troll the username of the member.