Switching to a new phone - massive ballache

[scubascuba3]

I bought a new Xiaomi, still have my old one so should be easy to do the switches....have a cable so even easier....

 

Google copies apps over easy enough but of course not in the same position as before, so they get a grade C

 

Google copies the files over, many are missing so i have to delete and copy manually, they get a grade D-

 

Kasikorn and Bangkok Bank smooth move, grade A.

 

Krungsri fails i have to go to branch, grade F

 

all the other logins, UK banks, shopping apps, everything, takes longer than last time. 

 

Websites saved to home screen so look like apps all missing so i have to do manually, grade F for ignoring that requirement.

 

All in all it's a rubbish long winded process, not seamless at all, takes hours

[Lorry]

Thx for posting this. 

After careful consideration (and from experience),  I just forgot all these "automated" methods and started manually from the beginning,  slowly, like 5 apps per day. (Today is day 3)

Your post makes me feel less of an idiot.

[Equatorial]

22 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

All in all it's a rubbish long winded process, not seamless at all, takes hours

 

I switched from iPhone 6s to iPhone 16e recently. No cables just the two phones sitting next to each other. I don't recall how long it took, but it definitely wasn't excessive. 

 

It was seamless. 

[scubascuba3]

2 hours ago, Lorry said:

Thx for posting this. 

After careful consideration (and from experience),  I just forgot all these "automated" methods and started manually from the beginning,  slowly, like 5 apps per day. (Today is day 3)

Your post makes me feel less of an idiot.

You're doing it the right way, over several days

[scubascuba3]

50 minutes ago, Equatorial said:

 

I switched from iPhone 6s to iPhone 16e recently. No cables just the two phones sitting next to each other. I don't recall how long it took, but it definitely wasn't excessive. 

 

It was seamless. 

How many apps do you think? and were they all in the same order as the older phone?

[scubascuba3]

For Krungsri they say you have to go to a branch, with so many nationalities they haven't recorded passports properly....I told them Kasikorn and Bangkok Bank were seamless 

[BritManToo]

2 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

For Krungsri they say you have to go to a branch, with so many nationalities they haven't recorded passports properly....I told them Kasikorn and Bangkok Bank were seamless 

Bangkok Bank easy if you're registered for facial recognition.

TTB also seamless, no facial recognition required.

[ChaiyaTH]

Gotta love apple for this same as computers. I can basically just ditch, break or lose any of my devices and get a random second hand or new one to recover in maybe 10-15 minutes or 1 hour for all files with good Internet on top too.

[Cameroni]

Just be glad you didnt change your SIM card, if you used the old number for your bank, broker, paypal, cause you'd have to contact them individually that you have a new phone number, register it, etc...

[novacova]

4 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

How many apps do you think? and were they all in the same order as the older phone?

80 app and all in the same order as the previous iphone. Everything on the new iphone is transferred and placed in the exact same order.

[Digitalbanana]

On 5/7/2025 at 4:58 AM, scubascuba3 said:

I bought a new Xiaomi, still have my old one

Was your old phone also Xiaomi? Did you try any apps like Mi Mover to copy Home Screens across? I haven't tried myself, just curious for my next Xiaomi upgrade.

[impulse]

Just another data point...  I bought a Samsung tablet and used the Samsung app to clone my Samsung phone onto it.  While it did a lot of the work, it took a looong time and I still had to do a lot of manual fidgeting.  Both the phone and the tablet were similar vintage and still currently for sale.

 

Not a complaint, just an observation.  I'm very happy with both of them.

 

Edit:  But on an off topic aside, if you buy the Samsung tablet, get the Samsung brand cover for it.  I bought an off-brand cover and the magnet made the tablet go into secure mode every time I moved it.  It was a PITA to enter my PIN over and over.  I replaced it with the Samsung brand cover and it works great.  More expensive than the off-brand cover but well worth it.

 

[Stocky]

Couple years since I last changed phones but my recollection of moving Samsung to Samsung was surprisingly painless.

[ThreeCardMonte]

6 hours ago, Equatorial said:

 

I switched from iPhone 6s to iPhone 16e recently. No cables just the two phones sitting next to each other. I don't recall how long it took, but it definitely wasn't excessive. 

 

It was seamless. 

I do the same every few years.

 

Just back up on the cloud before hand.   Everything falls into place when installing on the new phone.

[impulse]

9 minutes ago, Stocky said:

Couple years since I last changed phones but my recollection of moving Samsung to Samsung was surprisingly painless.

 

I think a lot depends on which apps and accounts you're moving over.  I "cloned" my phone to my tablet about 2 months ago and had to do a lot of fidgeting.  Mostly entering passwords and 2FA things.  A few apps just had to be re-downloaded from Google Play.

 

[gamb00ler]

6 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

How many apps do you think? and were they all in the same order as the older phone?

I also upgraded within the Apple paradigm using the built in Apple function ..... new iPhone was a copy of the older one and used the same sim card ... except the Thai banking apps wouldn't work until re-authorized.  Very little effort was required.

[frank83628]

Samsung have smart switch which takes care of all that.

You might have been better off updating all your apps before moving them. 

[Cameroni]

37 minutes ago, impulse said:

Just another data point...  I bought a Samsung tablet and used the Samsung app to clone my Samsung phone onto it.  While it did a lot of the work, it took a looong time and I still had to do a lot of manual fidgeting.  Both the phone and the tablet were similar vintage and still currently for sale.

 

Not a complaint, just an observation.  I'm very happy with both of them.

 

Edit:  But on an off topic aside, if you buy the Samsung tablet, get the Samsung brand cover for it.  I bought an off-brand cover and the magnet made the tablet go into secure mode every time I moved it.  It was a PITA to enter my PIN over and over.  I replaced it with the Samsung brand cover and it works great.  More expensive than the off-brand cover but well worth it.

 

 

My Samsung tablet is probably the best buy I ever made. How I love that thing.

[impulse]

9 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Samsung have smart switch which takes care of all that.

You might have been better off updating all your apps before moving them. 

 

I used their smart switch app.  Still had to do a lot of manual fidgeting.  But then, I have apps for marine navigation, to control my DJI drone, my boat sonar, my boat trolling motor, my smart watch and a half dozen other eclectic apps.  YMMV.

[impulse]

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

My Samsung tablet is probably the best buy I ever made. How I love that thing.

 

I'm loving my A9+, even though it's on the low end of their spectrum.  SIM and GPS support is why I chose it.  Good decision.

[Cameroni]

1 minute ago, impulse said:

 

I'm loving my A9+, even though it's on the low end of their spectrum.  SIM and GPS support is why I chose it.  Good decision.

 

The Samsung Tablets are insane good.

 

I got the Tab S 4, back in 2019 and it still works superb.

 

Just like my Samsung Note 9 I bought in 2019, still works brilliantly.

 

If it wasn't for the super fast charging on some of the Chinese phones I wouldn't even think about changing for a new one.

[KannikaP]

6 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

How many apps do you think? and were they all in the same order as the older phone?

Do the apps not show in alphabetical order in the total app screen. It is up to you how you place them on your home screen.

[proton]

6 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

For Krungsri they say you have to go to a branch, with so many nationalities they haven't recorded passports properly....I told them Kasikorn and Bangkok Bank were seamless 

Took them over 2 hours to do mine last time

[Patong2021]

The pain that occurs is when  you have e-sims and want to change to a  different phone brand. If you are with AIS you have to go to the  shop and have them give you a new Qr code to read. It's a pain if you are traveling or not near an AIS  outlet with an hour to kill waiting. 

[save the frogs]

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[JackGats]

You can never transfer a banking App to a new phone like you would any App. The banking App needs reinstalling from scratch on the new phone. This is for your safety of course. At the same time, it means less incentive to buy new phones. I typically use my phones until the battery is no good any more. Because giving my phone (with banking data etc.) to a shop for them to insert a new battery is a security risk not worth it. Better then go the whole hog and buy a new one.

[scubascuba3]

1 hour ago, Digitalbanana said:

Was your old phone also Xiaomi? Did you try any apps like Mi Mover to copy Home Screens across? I haven't tried myself, just curious for my next Xiaomi upgrade.

Yes both Xiaomi, i had a cable so that should be the quickest way, i didn't bother using a transfer app, would rather not in case of security risk, but a big company should be ok.  

 

Try it and let us know, got to be a better way

[scubascuba3]

48 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

Do the apps not show in alphabetical order in the total app screen. It is up to you how you place them on your home screen.

I obviously have the apps in my preferred order on the home screen, when they get automatically copied to the new phone they are in a rubbish order 

[scubascuba3]

17 minutes ago, JackGats said:

You can never transfer a banking App to a new phone like you would any App. The banking App needs reinstalling from scratch on the new phone. This is for your safety of course. At the same time, it means less incentive to buy new phones. I typically use my phones until the battery is no good any more. Because giving my phone (with banking data etc.) to a shop for them to insert a new battery is a security risk not worth it. Better then go the whole hog and buy a new one.

Most of my banking apps transferred easily, with new security measures. Kasikorn and Bangkok Bank painless

[scubascuba3]

The other thing when you change phones the apps know so wants you to sign in again, 50 apps, some using google, facebook, email, telephone, what would be good is if you could sync most of them so they are all Google etc