Travel to US in free fall

[3NUMBAS]

Travel to US in free fall

 

down by many billions ,who wants to go there ?

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/travel-advisory-to-us-holiday-trump-deportations-visa-b2750567.html
 

[3NUMBAS]

International travel spending in the United States is projected to fall by $12.5 billion, or seven per cent, in 2025, according to the World Travel and Tourism Council (WTTC).

[SunnyinBangrak]

I hear violent gangbanger travel across the democrats formely wide open southern border is in free fall too?

[3NUMBAS]

Tv exposes show it’s a dangerous place with private militias and gunmen on the streets with swasticas shown 

[GroveHillWanderer]

3 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

I hear violent gangbanger travel across the democrats formely wide open southern border is in free fall too?

So you've evidently bought into the obvious falsehood that all illegal immigrants are violent criminals.

[BLMFem]

2 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

I hear violent gangbanger travel across the democrats formely wide open southern border is in free fall too?

Never mind that, what about the laptop??

[johng]

30 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Never mind that, what about the laptop??

You think its a conspiracy theory so why bring it up ?

[Mike_Hunt]

32 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Never mind that, what about the laptop??

It was Russian disinformation? 

[Hanaguma]

I wouldn't call a 7% loss "free fall", just more catastrophizing from the media. In any case, it is a small price to pay for a safer country with fewer criminals and deadbeats running around. 

 

Especially if they are carrying laptops!

[SunnyinBangrak]

1 hour ago, BLMFem said:

Never mind that, what about the laptop??

Yep. The squirming is off the charts. I do hope despite the false bravado the hivemind took the L and accept that calling those on the side of fact a "cult" and removing them from discussion was a huge blunder. As it stands its the perfect way to assess the  credibility of news sources and forum posters. Where were they on the subject? NYPost, Daily Mail, Alex Jones, Russell Brand etc are proven credible. The Atlantic, CNN, the entire left wing media and all posters from the hivemind = total clowns and liars. 

[kwonitoy]

7 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

I hear violent gangbanger travel across the democrats formely wide open southern border is in free fall too?

 

bringing the ones with money in though. Only the best people

[Patong2021]

Ooopsie.   Visitors are staying away and it is beginning to have an impact. 😮‍💨

 

https://weekly.visualapproach.io/p/canada-s-american-pullback  The analysis suggests a 30% decline in Canadian visitors to Florida. Other tourist destinations are being hit too.

 

The UK is the 2nd most important source of visitors to Florida after Canada. Florida Tourist Board Reveals Drop In U.K. Visitor Numbers   https://www.forbes.com/sites/carolinereid/2025/04/11/florida-tourist-board-reveals-drop-in-uk-visitor-numbers/

 

Many border cities and states say they’re feeling the absence of Canadians. Retail stores, hotels, restaurants, and airlines are all seeing the effects.

“Well, we now have the border crossing numbers for Champlain for March and, as anticipated, car crossings were down 31% compared with March 2024,” Garry Douglas, president of the North Country Chamber of Commerce, said. “Visitation was down 16% in February but we knew March was the month that tariffs and counter-tariffs hit, along with a heightened sense that many of our northern friends and neighbors would avoid travel to the U.S. for now.”

https://cardinalpointsonline.com/border-crossings-down-31/

 

In another article

“Thirty-one per cent is a lot, particularly when it’s on a number that we roughly estimate is more than $300 million a year in spending by Canadians just in the immediate Plattsburgh area,” said Chamber of Commerce President Garry Douglas.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/montreal/article/plattsburgh-golf-courses-a-ghost-town-as-montreal-businesses-booms/

 

Hostile threats  have consequences. Upstate New York votes Republican. Florida votes Republican. May they enjoy their payoff.

[blaze master]

On 5/15/2025 at 3:07 AM, GroveHillWanderer said:

On 5/15/2025 at 3:03 AM, SunnyinBangrak said:

I hear violent gangbanger travel across the democrats formely wide open southern border is in free fall too?

So you've evidently bought into the obvious falsehood that all illegal immigrants are violent criminals

 

Evidently you have put words into the posters mouth. 

 

Do share with the class where the poster said all illegal immigrants are violent  criminals.....

[kwonitoy]

4 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Ooopsie.   Visitors are staying away and it is beginning to have an impact. 😮‍💨

 

https://weekly.visualapproach.io/p/canada-s-american-pullback  The analysis suggests a 30% decline in Canadian visitors to Florida. Other tourist destinations are being hit too.

 

The UK is the 2nd most important source of visitors to Florida after Canada. Florida Tourist Board Reveals Drop In U.K. Visitor Numbers   https://www.forbes.com/sites/carolinereid/2025/04/11/florida-tourist-board-reveals-drop-in-uk-visitor-numbers/

 

Many border cities and states say they’re feeling the absence of Canadians. Retail stores, hotels, restaurants, and airlines are all seeing the effects.

“Well, we now have the border crossing numbers for Champlain for March and, as anticipated, car crossings were down 31% compared with March 2024,” Garry Douglas, president of the North Country Chamber of Commerce, said. “Visitation was down 16% in February but we knew March was the month that tariffs and counter-tariffs hit, along with a heightened sense that many of our northern friends and neighbors would avoid travel to the U.S. for now.”

https://cardinalpointsonline.com/border-crossings-down-31/

 

In another article

“Thirty-one per cent is a lot, particularly when it’s on a number that we roughly estimate is more than $300 million a year in spending by Canadians just in the immediate Plattsburgh area,” said Chamber of Commerce President Garry Douglas.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/montreal/article/plattsburgh-golf-courses-a-ghost-town-as-montreal-businesses-booms/

 

Hostile threats  have consequences. Upstate New York votes Republican. Florida votes Republican. May they enjoy their payoff.

 

Anecdotal evidence

 

My brother and his wife have a winter place in Yuma AZ.

They sold it at a loss this last winter along with 14 other Canadian couples that sold their winter homes in that immediate area.

Never to return. 

[bunnydrops]

I just flew back to the States two days ago on United. The flight from Japan to SF was only 80% full. I fly back every year at this time, and this is the first non-full flight I have been on in 10 years. A funny side note: It is also the first flight that made people change their seats to balance the plane.

[bkk6060]

Some of the National parks are interesting, but never really understood why people want to holiday there.

Many say they want to go to New York?

Gigantic, chaotic, overcrowded way too expensive Bangkok is better I think.

[fredwiggy]

On 5/15/2025 at 2:03 PM, SunnyinBangrak said:

I hear violent gangbanger travel across the democrats formely wide open southern border is in free fall too?

The border has never been wide open. It's still open the same as it was before, without asylum grants. People come in every day, have for decades, and will continue until rich Americans are stopped from hiring illegal workers.

[fredwiggy]

9 minutes ago, bunnydrops said:

I just flew back to the States two days ago on United. The flight from Japan to SF was only 80% full. I fly back every year at this time, and this is the first non-full flight I have been on in 10 years. A funny side note: It is also the first flight that made people change their seats to balance the plane.

I've flown a few times back and forth where seats were vacant. Two times I had the whole three seats to myself and could sleep. Many times I've had a seat next to me vacant. It all depends on times and seasons.

[Yagoda]

 

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I've flown a few times back and forth where seats were vacant. Two times I had the whole three seats to myself and could sleep. Many times I've had a seat next to me vacant. It all depends on times and seasons.

Ill take empty seats anyday

[Yagoda]

6 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

he border has never been wide open.

How is your vision and grasp on reality?

[Yagoda]

9 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

Some of the National parks are interesting, but never really understood why people want to holiday there.

Germans are big on nature and hiking.

 

The only reason to visit the USA IMHO is Nature and Parks. Go to NYC just to see it I guess.

 

Poeple dont realize how big the USA is.

[bunnydrops]

10 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I've flown a few times back and forth where seats were vacant. Two times I had the whole three seats to myself and could sleep. Many times I've had a seat next to me vacant. It all depends on times and seasons.

I don't dispute that. I fly back at the same time every year.

[mogandave]

Once people found out they’re going to have to go back after visiting, they quit wanting to come.

 

Good riddance 

[fredwiggy]

9 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

How is your vision and grasp on reality?

 

9 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

How is your vision and grasp on reality?

Very clear. I lived in Texas 32 years, and saw, and heard, all about the amount that came in and the amount they thought came in. From border patrol agets who came into mys tore to buy guns and ammo. San Antonio area, close to the border. No one knows, and no president will ever control the illegals coming in until, again, they stop who's hiring them.

[fredwiggy]

10 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Germans are big on nature and hiking.

 

The only reason to visit the USA IMHO is Nature and Parks. Go to NYC just to see it I guess.

 

Poeple dont realize how big the USA is.

And some don't realize that the US has everything anyone could want, all in one place. The same reasons people go to other countries, besides to experience a certain culture.

[Yagoda]

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

And some don't realize that the US has everything anyone could want, all in one place. The same reasons people go to other countries, besides to experience a certain culture.

Thats why Americans dont do international travel. Oktoberfest? Go to Wisconsin. Songkran/Songkrata? Long Beach. Chinese New Year? NYC, SF, LA.

 

Plus music festivals, fairs, Nascar, ski resorts for EVERRYONE (not just the posh crowds), snowmachining, fishing, gator hunting, machine gunning, famers markets, Disney, museums....

[fredwiggy]

3 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Thats why Americans dont do international travel. Oktoberfest? Go to Wisconsin. Songkran/Songkrata? Long Beach. Chinese New Year? NYC, SF, LA.

 

Plus music festivals, fairs, Nascar, ski resorts for EVERRYONE (not just the posh crowds), snowmachining, fishing, gator hunting, machine gunning, famers markets, Disney, museums....

True, but Americans do international travel, to see the other sights and cultures. 100 million a year. I still want to see some of Europe because of that scenery and actually having the ethnic food while there. A lot of history came from Europe.

[Yagoda]

9 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I lived in Texas 32 years

until when. 

 

San Antonio is 240KM from the border.

[fredwiggy]

2 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

until when. 

 

San Antonio is 240KM from the border.

7 years ago, and visit yearly the last 4. I lived right next to San Antonio. The border patrol has a station in San Antonio. You see them all the time, and I talked with them weekly. I hunted in south Texas a lot, saw illegals all the time.

[Yagoda]

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

True, but Americans do international travel, to see the other sights and cultures. 100 million a year. I still want to see some of Europe because of that scenery and actually having the ethnic food while there. A lot of history came from Europe.

Oh dont get me wrong, I love International travel and new sights and experiences. Instead of seeing deer and bear, I get to see snakes and lizards.

 

But at the same time Im considering a one man motor home and heading cross country USA with no destination.