If they where alive today how would 1, Umberto Eco, 2, Tolkien, 3, JFK and 4, Mussolini describe Donald Trump

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This is a fascinating thought experiment. Here's how each figure—based on their writings, beliefs, and rhetorical styles—might describe Donald Trump if they were alive today. Naturally, these are interpretive approximations, not direct quotes.

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1. Umberto Eco (semiotician, novelist, philosopher)

Likely Description of Trump:
Eco would likely view Trump as a textbook example of what he termed "Ur-Fascism" in his famous 1995 essay "Eternal Fascism." He might say:

"Trump is not a fascist in the historical sense, but he embodies the signs, gestures, and mechanisms of what I called Ur-Fascism: the cult of action for action’s sake, the rejection of analytical critique, a fear of difference, and a populist appeal that thrives on the frustrations of the disenfranchised. His reality is constructed through signs emptied of substance—tweets as oracles, slogans as ideology."

He would probably find Trump fascinating as a media spectacle and symbolic figure, yet deeply troubling for democracy.

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2. J.R.R. Tolkien (philologist, Catholic, conservative monarchist)

Likely Description of Trump:
Tolkien was deeply skeptical of power and industrialized modernity. He distrusted politicians and modern populism. While he avoided overt political commentary, he might write something like:

"He reminds me of the boastful chieftains of old—loud, proud, and heedless of wisdom. But unlike the true lords of ancient days, he lacks the humility that tempers might with mercy. In Middle-earth, such figures often bring ruin before their fall."

Tolkien would likely see Trump as someone too obsessed with personal grandeur, devoid of the self-sacrificing spirit he valued in true leadership.

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3. John F. Kennedy (U.S. President, liberal internationalist, eloquent orator)

Likely Description of Trump:
Kennedy, a symbol of idealism and civic responsibility, would probably be dismayed by Trump’s populism, nationalism, and attacks on democratic norms. He might say:

"Leadership requires courage, vision, and service to something greater than oneself. I see in Mr. Trump a man who appeals to division rather than unity, spectacle rather than substance, and personal gain over public good. America deserves better than demagoguery wrapped in the flag."

Kennedy’s New Frontier ideals would clash sharply with Trump’s brand of politics.

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4. Benito Mussolini (Italian fascist dictator, propagandist)

Likely Description of Trump:
Mussolini might regard Trump with a mix of admiration and condescension, seeing him as a populist who lacks ideological rigor. He could say:

"Ah, a man who understands the theatre of power! He governs with spectacle, not substance—an amateur, but effective in manipulating the masses. He lacks the discipline of fascism but not its instincts. He is not one of us, but he plays the crowd well, like a showman."

Mussolini might respect Trump's command of media and charisma but criticize his lack of systematic ideology or statecraft.

Thats only fun or interesting to the Trumpderangerettes, but hey, enjoy.

Trump is to fun what Nancy Pelosi is to erections.

1. Groucho Marx

 

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“Ah, Donald Trump — the man, the myth, the... hair. I haven’t seen that much orange since I accidentally sat on a crate of tangerines. And that hair? It looks like a small woodland creature got lost, panicked, and stayed for the tax breaks.”

“They say he’s a self-made man, which is true — no one else would take the credit. He started with a small loan of a million dollars, which is just like how I started… if you multiply my starting capital by a million and ignore the part where I had none.”

“He ran a reality TV show, then decided to run the country. Makes sense — both involve yelling, fake drama, and firing people. The only difference is that on ‘The Apprentice,’ no one launched a trade war.”

“They say he tells it like it is — which is odd, because it never quite is how he tells it. I’ve seen magicians with more honest illusions. And I once saw a magician pull a rabbit out of a hat. Trump pulls polls out of thin air, lawsuits out of his sleeve, and tweets out of... well, let's just say not out of his mouth.”

“He claims he’s a genius. I’d believe it if he hadn’t tried to buy Greenland like it was on eBay. The only place that plan works is Monopoly, and even there he’d bankrupt the electric company.”

“But I’ll say this — he’s got charisma. Not charm, mind you — charisma. The kind that makes you look, wince, and wonder what’s going to happen next. Like a train wreck in a gold-plated tuxedo.”

“They asked him if he could unite the country, and he said, ‘Sure — as soon as everyone agrees with me.’ That’s not unity, that’s a dictatorship with extra bronzer.”

“But let’s not be too harsh. After all, he’s just trying to make America great again… by tweeting at 3 a.m., confusing enemies and allies, and turning press conferences into stand-up routines without the punchlines. If that’s greatness, then I’m the Queen of England.”

“In conclusion, Donald Trump is a lot of things — businessman, showman, president, post-presidency court regular. But if he ever opened a comedy club, I’d audition. After all, I’ve been making people laugh on purpose for years — he’s been doing it accidentally since 2015.”

 

 

Marcus Tullius Cicero

 

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There arises a man not formed by study or tempered by virtue, but swollen with arrogance and armed with nothing but the applause of the crowd. He flatters the multitude not to serve the Republic, but to serve himself.”

“He speaks often, and yet says little. He declares love for the people, but only those who return his praise. He scorns deliberation, mocks restraint, and delights in the degradation of office. In him, we see not a guardian of the state, but a mirror held up to its decline.”

“A republic, if it is to endure, must be led by those who love it more than themselves. He, however, loves only the reflection of his own image, and demands that others see it as divine.”

“He builds not institutions, but cults. He attacks not enemies of the state, but those who would preserve it by questioning him. This is the danger of unchecked ambition tied to ignorance — the demagogue cloaked in gold and grievance.

 

 

Richard Nixon

 

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The man has instincts, I’ll give him that. Crude, raw, unpolished — but effective. He knows how to read a crowd better than any pollster. Hell, he is the poll. He just shouts what they want to hear and lets the applause be his data.”

“He took the Southern Strategy I helped craft and turned it into a damn carnival. No dog whistles — just air horns.”

“He’s not a student of history, of course. Doesn’t read memos, doesn’t care for policy detail. But he knows television. Better than I ever did. He made rage into ratings. I tried to control the press. He became the press.”

“But he’s reckless. Unguarded. Says the quiet part out loud — not because he’s bold, but because he’s addicted to attention. He doesn’t want to be president. He wants to win being president. There’s a difference.”

“He’s no conservative. He doesn’t give a damn about the Constitution, unless it's written in gold and signed with a Sharpie. But the party bows to him. Why? Because he gives them power — the same way Caesar gave bread and circuses to Rome.”

“Watergate brought me down because I believed in the system, even as I broke it. He doesn’t believe in the system at all. That makes him more dangerous. And more free.”

“History will not be kind to him. But he won’t care — because he won’t read it.”

 

 

Sterling Archer (Danger Zone)

 

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“Wait, wait, wait — that guy was President? You mean the guy who looks like a creamsicle made sweet, regrettable love to a taxidermied ferret? That guy?”

“I mean, I’m narcissistic, sure — but he makes me look like a Buddhist monk. If I ever got that power-hungry, Lana would tase me and duct-tape me to a missile headed for Pyongyang.”

“Trump’s idea of foreign policy is yelling at Canada and hugging North Korea like they’re his long-lost prom date. And don't even get me started on the Space Force. Space Force! I pitched that during a hangover and even I thought it was too stupid to say out loud.”

“He eats like a stoned raccoon at a drive-thru, lies like he’s trying to win a contest, and brags like he just discovered mirrors.”

“The only wall he ever built was around his ego. And spoiler alert: it’s covered in gold leaf and McDonald’s wrappers.”

“Honestly, he’s like if Malory and Krieger had a baby and let Pam raise it.”

 

 

Abraham Lincoln

 

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A nation conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal demands from its leaders not mere boastful words, but steadfast devotion to truth, justice, and the common good.

I behold a man whose manner oft resembles the tempest—loud and brash, stirring division more than harmony; whose actions seem less guided by principle than by the fervor of self-interest and spectacle.

The office of the presidency is no pedestal for vanity, but a solemn trust, requiring humility before the people and respect for the institutions that bind us. When a leader esteems his own image above the welfare of the Union, he imperils the very fabric that holds us together.

It is the duty of those who serve the republic to act with candor, to cherish the rights of all citizens, and to bind up the nation’s wounds rather than widen them.

History will judge such a man not by his rhetoric nor by his wealth, but by the measure of his contribution to the enduring cause of liberty and equality

 

 

George Washington

 

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“In reflecting upon the conduct of the present occupant of the presidential office, I find myself compelled to express grave concern for the preservation of the principles upon which our republic was founded.

The presidency demands a temperate spirit, a steadfast commitment to duty, and a sincere regard for the liberties and welfare of the citizenry. It is neither a prize to be won by spectacle nor a stage for the exaltation of self.

I observe, with disquiet, a manner marked by ostentation and a penchant for division rather than the cultivation of union. A leader must seek to bind the nation’s wounds and to conduct himself with dignity befitting the trust placed in him by the people.

The virtues of modesty, self-restraint, and respect for established laws and customs are the foundation of our enduring republic. When these are cast aside for personal aggrandizement, the very fabric of our union is imperiled.

Let it be the solemn charge of all who serve this nation to put aside vanity and ambition in favor of the public good, remembering always that the trust of the people is the greatest honor and responsibility bestowed upon any man.”

 

 

Christopher Hitchens

 

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Donald Trump, a man whose ascendancy to the highest office of the United States reads less like the culmination of a democratic process and more like a fever dream scripted by the least competent writers of political farce.

He is the embodiment of a new vulgarity—a tasteless, brazen, and mercenary figure who traffics in demagoguery, lies, and a profound disdain for truth itself. To watch him speak is to witness the disintegration of rhetoric into mere noise, a cacophony designed to drown out reason and scrutiny.

Trump’s presidency is not simply a political misadventure; it is an indictment of a society that has surrendered its intellectual rigor and ethical compass to the worship of spectacle and the cult of personality. His bombast is a poor substitute for statesmanship, and his instinct for self-aggrandizement renders him incapable of genuine leadership.

Yet one must recognize the peculiar genius of his appeal: to tap into fear, resentment, and ignorance with a shamelessness that borders on the Machiavellian, albeit without the finesse. This is not a man who governs with conviction or principle, but with the caprice of a reality television host—eager for ratings, indifferent to consequence.

If this period teaches us anything, it is the vital necessity of vigilance: to guard against the rise of such charlatans who, armed with neither intellect nor integrity, threaten the very foundations of democratic civilization.”

 

 

Alan B'Stard

 

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“Donald Trump, eh? Now there’s a chap who knows how to play the game—if by ‘game’ you mean shameless self-promotion wrapped in a tuxedo of bluster and bad hair. The man’s a master of turning chaos into capital, which, let’s be honest, is the secret to success in politics and business alike.

I do admire his flair for spectacle—the golden mop, the absurd walls, the Twitter tirades at three in the morning. It’s all very B’Stardian, really. If only I’d thought of it first, I’d have been Prime Minister by now.

He’s no gentleman, no diplomat, but who needs subtlety when you’ve got millions watching your every move, hanging on your every tantrum? Trump understands that politics is less about policy and more about personality, ego, and the ability to bellow louder than your enemies.

Of course, he’s a walking PR disaster and a master of dividing the masses. But hey, division keeps people distracted while you line your pockets, doesn’t it? If he’s taught us anything, it’s that in this game, the only rule is to make sure you come out on top—preferably with a skyscraper named after you.

Bravo, Donald. I tip my hat to your glorious, grotesque genius.”

 

 

Edmond Blackadder

 

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Ah, Donald Trump—a man whose coiffure resembles a rare species of mop, discovered in the wilds of a budget hair salon, and whose grasp on reality is as firm as a soggy biscuit. The man struts about the world stage like a particularly loud peacock who’s mistaken his squawks for a symphony.

He has the charm of a used car salesman at a funeral and the subtlety of a sledgehammer wielded by an elephant on roller skates. One must admire, however, his remarkable talent for turning every utterance into a public relations catastrophe—it’s a gift few possess and even fewer wield with such unerring consistency.

His policies, if one can call them that, resemble a toddler’s attempt at abstract art—bold, bewildering, and largely incomprehensible to anyone with a functioning brain. Yet, somehow, this cacophony of bluster and bling has earned him followers who mistake bombast for leadership and outrage for wisdom.

In short, Donald Trump is the human equivalent of a reality television show: loud, vacuous, and impossible to ignore, much like a particularly persistent rash—annoying, baffling, and utterly unforgettable.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why do the democrats oppose tariffs when they hated free trade in the past

 

Great question — and the answer lies in both historical context and evolving political coalitions.

Historical Democratic Opposition to Free Trade

In the early to mid-20th century, Democrats, especially those representing labor unions and industrial regions, opposed free trade. Their concern was that free trade would:

• Undercut American workers by enabling companies to outsource jobs.

• Undermine wages and labor standards.

• Weaken domestic manufacturing.

This aligned with the interests of blue-collar workers in places like the Midwest and Northeast, many of whom were unionized and dependent on factory jobs.

 

 

8 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Why do the democrats oppose tariffs when they hated free trade in the past

 

 

Great question — and the answer lies in both historical context and evolving political coalitions.

Historical Democratic Opposition to Free Trade

In the early to mid-20th century, Democrats, especially those representing labor unions and industrial regions, opposed free trade. Their concern was that free trade would:

• Undercut American workers by enabling companies to outsource jobs.

• Undermine wages and labor standards.

• Weaken domestic manufacturing.

This aligned with the interests of blue-collar workers in places like the Midwest and Northeast, many of whom were unionized and dependent on factory jobs.

 

 

Indeed Trump is a socialist.

Derangement ... If mental illness wasn't such a sad state for many, there might be some humour in it.  

 

Running out of ways to bash Trump, now going for imaginary opinion from dead people.   Simply not enough mental health professional available for the millions of deranged folks.

 

Try to get some rest, IF you can ... 

 

If JFK were still alive, he would be smart enough to see what has happened to the democrat party and voted for trump. 100% sure

11 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Derangement ... If mental illness wasn't such a sad state for many, there might be some humour in it.  

 

Running out of ways to bash Trump, now going for imaginary opinion from dead people.   Simply not enough mental health professional available for the millions of deranged folks.

 

Try to get some rest, IF you can ... 

 

These guys have no life without T

1 minute ago, hotsun said:

If JFK were still alive, he would be smart enough to see what has happened to the democrat party and voted for trump. 100% sure

Even old representatives  from Republican party was smart enough to not vote for Trump. 

 

Let that sink in for a minut, the list is long

 

 

9 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Even old representatives  from Republican party was smart enough to not vote for Trump. 

 

Let that sink in for a minut, the list is long

 

 

War mongers

On 5/17/2025 at 11:14 AM, Yagoda said:

Thats only fun or interesting to the Trumpderangerettes, but hey, enjoy.

Not interesting yet got you to post here.

4 minutes ago, cdemundo said:

Not interesting yet got you to post here.

Wow, you have a rapier like wit.