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1 hour ago, sandyf said:

Why do some feel the necessity to read something into what gets said that isn't there.

I would have thought that this sentence is quite clear.

"Under these new rules, foreign income earned and remitted within the same or following year will not incur tax."

 

On saying that I wouldn't put much store in articles. Best do nothing until it becomes law and clarified.

 

I think you've answered your own question with "I wouldn't put much store in articles until it becomes law and clarified".

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Every time, I, naive as I am, hope that some substantive information on expat taxation will come out! But nothing, nada, just nonsense that contradicts the previous information. It doesn't even occur to me to get a TIN!:stoner:

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Well this is interesting. In some ways it’s better for me that the old rule, of which it is a complete 180 degree U turn.

 

Speaking for myself, I hope this comes into being. I’ll need to segregate out any income earned, but not remitted to Thailand in the year it’s earned, but that’s not hard to do. Meantime I can send in what I need from the current years income, tax free.

 

Those who live off rental income from property abroad and/or pension income and send all of it to Thailand as it’s received, should also be delighted. Back to the old favorable tax regime for them.

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2 hours ago, tomazbodner said:

It is very simple, in my opinion. Government needs money. Their very narrow view of people being stupid,stipulated them to tax the income of investors to foreign markets, expecting a big payday. But it turned out those people weren't stupid and instead stopped sending any money back to Thailand, causing a big dent in local investment. The government realised people weren't that stupid, and are now reversing the rule (until next election), where foreign income can be brought into Thailand without any taxes, because... well, they are broke...

 

In style of Aseannow: This reversal underscores Thailand's strategic push toward flip-flop legislation, laying groundwork for enhanced economic benefits from population's investment skills and good luck. As finance ministry navigates these uncertain times in search of the next idea to empty residents' pockets, Thailand embraces an "easy in, hard out" approach to replace the "rob them now" approach which achieved the opposite of expected result.

I think you are right. Yesterday’s article where the government directly quoted the poor performance of the Thai stock market as something that needs to be addressed is possible relevant. They probably hope that some of the money that gets brought back gets invested in Thai stocks.

 

Alternatively, maybe the wealthy and influential Thais who felt targeted by the previous change, have quietly lobbied their way into a position that’s suits them better and this new potential rule is a compromise that gives wealthy Thais what they want, without the tax department having to openly back track

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5 hours ago, crazykopite said:

The rules of tax was always concerning Thais I never understood how foreigners managed to get mentioned it’s clear by this report that it’s the wealthy Thai tax dodgers who they are after !

That's exactly how I interpreted as well, although they threw in a few references to make the whole thing confusing. The goal seems to attract overseas money held by Thai nationals back into Thailand.

It appears that they can bring it over tax free until the end of 2026. 

4 hours ago, Thailand J said:

If i sell US stocks and transfer the proceeds to Thailand, the entire amount will be tax free, if i read the OP correctly. The cost basic was  money from  prior to 2024, and the capital gain is recent income.

I read the article as stipulating Thai Nationals being able to do that... But it did get more confusing as the article went on...

Posted
3 hours ago, samtam said:

 

I think you've answered your own question with "I wouldn't put much store in articles until it becomes law and clarified".

Would appear you are seeing a question mark that isn't there.

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Posted
3 hours ago, samtam said:

 

It seems even the experts are just as confused (per email from Expat Tax). The head of the Revenue Department needs to sit down, discuss with advisors, make an unambiguous decision, and publish it. We've had 21 months of ambiguity, panic, contradictory information from the Revenue Department staff in different offices, or even the same office, most completely untrained in the nuances of DTAs etc. This Thai Examiner article is certainly more detailed than the BP article, which made a confusing situation more confusing. The writer of that one may need to consider another career choice. But none the less, until an unambiguous decision is made (and enacted in law and published in the Royal Gazette), the result of uncertainty that has ensued is now all too visible to see, through the reduction of tax revenue by THB20 Billion. Until it is, that figure could certainly go northwards.

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Posted
1 hour ago, newnative said:

    Sticking with my original plan to keep my head down and do nothing until I am clearly forced to do something, such as provide a tax return in order to do my annual renewal.  

2 very separate departments and nothing has been mentioned on permission to stay or 90-day reporting, and very recently!!
Also, many people's personal allowances exceed income brought in and yes, no new forms and also been told by my local Revenue, you simply do not need to file.
In any case, there are not enough boxes for all the allowances available and asked "Have you employment in Thailand"
No I do not, so again, no need to file a tax form.
 

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8 hours ago, thjames007 said:

It looks like they referring to tax resident.  Not just Thais.   While the rules aren't clear it will apply to all "tax residence" (ie 180 day or more in year) 

 

Of course they are.

 

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This rule applies to persons who stay in Thailand for 180 days or more and have foreign income.

 

This is in BK post, however not in this article !

An error of AN, not taking all over from BK post. 

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Old rules: if you don’t bring money into Thailand now we won’t tax it later.

New rules : if you don’t bring money into Thailand now, we will tax it later.

Anyone who is not confused hasn’t been paying attention.

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9 hours ago, ukrules said:

 

 

I came to live in Thailand for only 1 reason, I could avoid paying any and all tax. I've always said the one thing that will make me leave is if they ever attempt to tax me - hence I am sitting in an apartment in Phnom Penh right now.

They're not getting a single Baht from me.


I know how to do it 100% legally, it's not evasion if it's avoidance and there's nothing wrong with avoidance. Not yet anyway.

How is the taxation in Cambodia ? 

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On 5/20/2025 at 8:05 AM, spidermike007 said:

Since the rules are as clear as mud, I'm willing to offer the tax revenue department 1,000 baht. They just need to let me know where to send the money, that's all they're getting from me. 

Let’s wait for The Royal Decree to be announced before jumping the gun.

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50 minutes ago, Hugh Jarse said:

Let’s wait for The Royal Decree to be announced before jumping the gun.

 

Yeah, until it's published in the Gazette it's nothing more than hot air / proposed changes which often never come to fruition.

They can draft as many of these as they want but unless the Cabinet vote on it nothing will happen, then it just needs the 'Royal Decree' part completing.

 

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On 5/20/2025 at 8:14 AM, RupertIII said:

This article covers it in greater scope and also confirms that this will apply to tax resident foreigners.

https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-news-foreigners/2025/05/19/thai-revenue-planning-new-decree-making-remitted-foreign-funds-within-one-year-tax-free-for-residents/

Thank you for that link:
https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-news-foreigners/2025/05/19/thai-revenue-planning-new-decree-making-remitted-foreign-funds-within-one-year-tax-free-for-residents/

 

It seems that these TWO rules are henceforth to apply to tax-residents of Thailand, irrespective of nationality:

 

1.  Income that is foreign-earned before 2024, but remitted to Thailand during or after 2024, is non-imposable; and

2.  Income that is foreign-earned and is remitted to Thailand during the year it is earned or the following year is non-imposable.

 

IMPOSABLE FOREIGN-EARNED INCOME is therefore that which is earned after 2023 and is remitted to Thailand in the second or later year after it was earned.

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5 hours ago, ericbj said:

Thank you for that link:
https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-news-foreigners/2025/05/19/thai-revenue-planning-new-decree-making-remitted-foreign-funds-within-one-year-tax-free-for-residents/

 

It seems that these TWO rules are henceforth to apply to tax-residents of Thailand, irrespective of nationality:

 

1.  Income that is foreign-earned before 2024, but remitted to Thailand during or after 2024, is non-imposable; and

2.  Income that is foreign-earned and is remitted to Thailand during the year it is earned or the following year is non-imposable.

 

IMPOSABLE FOREIGN-EARNED INCOME is therefore that which is earned after 2023 and is remitted to Thailand in the second or later year after it was earned.


Good news - let's hope it get passed! On a different note, doesn't this mean that some filings that were done recently - for income year 2024 - should be corrected/edited? I.e. if someone transferred money in 2024 - that was earned in 2024, and paid income tax on that. Or is this proposal only for 2025 and onwards? (point 2 in your table). 

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On 5/20/2025 at 7:42 PM, yozah said:

Old rules: if you don’t bring money into Thailand now we won’t tax it later.

New rules : if you don’t bring money into Thailand now, we will tax it later.

Anyone who is not confused hasn’t been paying attention.

 

Indeed, the confusing thing about this whole situation is that the rule seems now reversed to the opposite of what it was before.

 

Before you had to wait for the next year to bring in your earnings to Thailand to avoid it being taxed; now you will have to bring it in immediately to avoid it being taxed.

 

I agree with another user that in practice, it takes some doing to prove which money is earned in which year. Personally, I have savings, investments and bank accounts, and any money earned is mixed with other money earned previously in either of those places, and some of that money is sent ... well if I were actually able to open a bank account in Thailand, some of that money would be sent to Thailand. Since I am not, it finds other ways to Thailand, like cash, or send it to my girlfriend through Wise, after which she gives me cash.

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4 minutes ago, JimmyTobacco said:

Indeed, the confusing thing about this whole situation is that the rule seems now reversed to the opposite of what it was before.

 

Right now nothing has changed and a full tax year has passed.

 

Maybe they make this change, maybe they don't but they sure as <deleted> have not done it yet.

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